I hate the new AVS :( - Page 7

One of my other complaints has been the difficulty of finding out about new threads without scouring the whole site.  Thanks again, and I'll subscribe to that one now and read what it has so far.

Good.

I guess you do care then. j/k

Did something just happen since Tuesday this week?

One friend that I know locally that had some complaints of speed browsing the forums and posting says something just substantially improved when he was using the same tired system and modest connection speed. I did not notice anything as the forum seems speedy to me on my newer Win 7 laptop with a good CPU and Chrome.

Did some update or tweak just happen on Tuesday for the AVS forum Huddler platform that he might have noticed? He says the difference is substantial.

Really? I spent an hour in my profile and didn't see it. Where is it?

EDIT: Never mind. Finally found it!
Edited by domino92024 - 6/29/12 at 8:57pm

Damn! And I went and made a screen cap just to show you, so now, you will look at it!

i dont like it ,too

the old forum had the best background color

The light blue / white background tires my eyes

Yes, an update took place on Tuesday. Not sure really what mind you. But we are rolling out updates/fixes/etc every other Tuesday.


You can try using the BLACK skin by going into MY PROFILE and ACCOUNT DETAILS. Scroll to the bottom to find it. Not sure if this will be more to your linking, but just in case it helps.

Thanks for the effort!

Vb 4.2 fixed a lot of speed issues... Vb at its worst is better any day of the week than huddler at its best. I haven't been here in two weeks because this software sucks so bad. People are still complaining after 2 weeks, search is broke, you need plugins just to tey to get the site to look correct and omit junk onnthemside columns.Huddler told them the grass was greener and I bet AVS post stats took a punishing hit. If AVS cared whatsoever, they would be busy converting back to vbulletin.

Which one of you got invited to beta test the huddler version? You all did a remarkable job discovering the bugs

I hate to break it to you, but this is the beta test.

Out of curiosity, when either a "bug" or functional limitation is discovered, fixed and pushed out on patch tuesday, is it also pushed out to other Huddler sites or is it on an individual site basis?

And I agree about the loading times and silly animations. Just because you can do the screen dimming thing with the spinning circle animation doesn't mean you should.

You've got it all wrong: they're "features."

My name's Rich the bitch. I bitch, therefore I am.

I've been reporting bugs for 2.5 years now, it doesnt much help when users are the least important of the Advertisers > Huddler > Owners > Mods > Users chain, by far.

Hate to break it to you but the Beta test was 3 forums ago, this is production, broken as intended, and how things will stay for a long while.

As far as the slow scrolling: I've got a 6-core, 6GB, 64-bit system with the latest Firefox and it still has very choppy scrolling. If I hit the page-down key it takes up to a second or more to redraw after it scrolls.

I suspect the main factor is how the icons are handled. The CSS loads a 50x7750 pixel image containing all of the forum icons. Each icon is then displayed by using a small portion of that image as the "background-image" for the icon's box and clipping the rest of the giant image. For example the flag-this-post flag is found 2800 pixels down, the subscribe star is 400 pixels down, search magnifying glass at 6650 pixels, and so on. I believe this is a common technique known as "CSS sprites", which is actually designed to make sites faster by letting them grab all of their little images in one shot instead of downloading each icon with a separate request.

The catch is that background images can make Firefox scroll slowly. If I use a dynamic CSS editor and simply remove the icon background-image from the styles (making all of the icons become blank), the page suddenly scrolls much faster. I still wouldn't call it perfect, but it's a massive improvement. As this issue is I think Firefox-specific, I'm not sure it's something that really needs to be fixed in the forum software; but for those using add-ons to dynamically modify the CSS in Firefox this one change may make things a lot better -- at the cost of making the icons invisible.

Update: I'm now on another system with the same CPU and version of Firefox, and it scrolls just fine even with the icons in place. The main difference between the machines is that this one has a much newer and faster graphics card in it (from 2011 instead of 2005). I wouldn't have thought the 2D performance would be that different but it may be that the way Firefox is pushing that background image to the video card is stressing the old one's video memory or driver somehow. In any case the video card appears to be another factor in Firefox's slow scrolling behavior.
Edited by dododge - 7/2/12 at 3:56pm

I strongly second that! i use the app on my iphone/ipad a lot. Not any more!

I completely disagree. This new version of AVS is a pleasent departure from the old. I find it more personalized, very well organized and easy to use. AVS is fast to respond on both my PC and iPad. No dedicated iPad app, no problem. I simply bookmarked AVS to my iPads home screen. This method allows me to enjoy AVS on my iPad in its native state. If you don't care for icons then go to your profile and turn them off. Don't like the light back ground, use the dark.

Respectfully, instead of using you energy to the negative, use it to the positive by exploring and learning how best to enjoy the new AVS.


49Merc

How do I jump to the last page for "sticky" thread?

For example, under the speaker section, we have this:

"Sticky" Threads for the "Speakers" forum:
•SURROUND SPEAKERS - Bipole, Dipole, Quadpole, Omnipole... WHICH ONE?
•Owner's threads
•Please Join and post what speakers you have

I need to check out just the latest post...but every time I have to click the thread, which links me to the first page, and then I have to manually click the last page number...which is slow.

The mods have to do it manually with the 'sticky thread" link in the subforum notes area as they are really just hyperlinks now.

Its been done with some sticky threads but not all to jump to the first unread post.

The best you can do personally if it has not been set up that way is to click on the link to get to the thread and then second click to first unread post or to click on the icon by the thread in the list of threads below in the subforum list to normally go to the first unread post. Sticky threads normally rise to the top of that list anyway.

Or you can PM the mods to do that manual link updating for a particular thread.

I have found on many "sticky" threads, the thread will also show as a regular thread - with its first new message icon - when a new post is placed in that "sticky" thread. That's right! The thread will be shown as a "sticky" thread AND as a regular thread when a new message is added. No new messages? The thread appears as a sticky thread only.

Those stickies are no longer threads. They're just links to the actual thread in the forum. Subscribe to the ones that are important to you so you'll not only be alerted to new posts, but you'll have a link to take you right where you left off.

If your favorite sticky isn't among the 'threads with new posts' section of your favorite subforum, well I guess that means there's no new posts...

I don't know if this has been discussed, but I have noticed 2 problems.
1) ieSpell doesn't always work right: will often insert rather than replace and often posts the correct version of the word alongside the misspelled word.
2) The facebook link program often crashes the Post Reply function, wiping out the current post before it can be added to the thread.

I don't like it as much! A big step backward IMHO.



The real key will be the number of posts and threads and traffic this site receives. It seems to have gone down.

I know mine has gone down, primarily from not getting the daily email list of new threads and updated threads per forum, instead, you get a incoherent listing of new posts and updated posts for all the forums you subscribe to, all in one email with no context as to what forum they're from. Useless! I've stopped that update email as it's of no use to me, and as a result, I'm spending far less time in areas of the site than I have in the past, and to extrapolate further, contributing even less to the community.

Keenan...

Meaning no disrespect here, but you really have betten this to death. We have already said that it is being worked on being redone. And no, I do not have a timeline for it. But to bring it up again and again for no real reason other than to bring it up again really does not help anything at this point.

It will be addressed.

Thanks

He's voicing his concerns, what exactly is the problem? The sooner you get it fixed, the sooner he doesn't have to bring it up anymore. Rather than being politely dismissive of people, perhaps you should consider that this thread has received far more traction than any of the ones with people saying they are happy. Asking people not to talk about what is frustrating, or angering them, only serves to give the impression you are more concerned with silencing criticism than listening to your users.

If nothing else, consider the activity in this thread versus the "in support of" thread that has 20 posts from a small handful of people. There's a poll showing that 3/4 of those responding do not like the changes, yet Huddler keeps making comments about the response being mostly positive; in direct contradiction to what is being said. I for one am getting tired of seeing people being told "you'll get used to it" or "give it a month", when it's pretty clear that many of us are not going to get used to it. Besides being condescending, and a bit arrogant, it essentially dismisses the person's concerns without any remedy. Even the well tread Huddler line about it being tough for the first month, but then everyone seems to settle in isn't panning out. You can tell yourself summer slows things down all you want, but the user exodus isn't that hard to observe. You may have had a small bump after the changeover, but that was people checking out the new look, and is commonly what happens. That glow doesn't last forever.

You want people to stop complaining?

Stop patronizing people and telling them they'll "get used to it". That may be what you want, but it doesn't mean it's true.

Stop telling us that "it's being worked on" or "it's coming" in reference to features that were present for a long time before the change. If Huddler was even half as good as they try to make themselves out to be, they should have had all the existing features ready to go before ever proceeding with the change over. A glaring example is the mobile app. Telling people to buy a 3rd party app is not a solution to removing the free app that everyone loved while Huddler gets around to doing their job. Seriously, what kind of morons claim to know how to market a site, but don't have a branded app ready to go at launch for a forum this large in 2012? Short answer; incompetent people with no clue what they are doing.

If someone is complaining about things a lot, it's because it's important to them. Don't ask them to keep it to themselves unless you want to alienate/anger/annoy them further.

Quit stocking the site with enough ad scripts to kill an elephant. They're annoying, they're impacting the user experience and they're just plain obnoxious. Find a better way to to do it, or just find an entirely different method. What's the point of trying to sell advertising when your heavy-handed methods have led a lot of users to simply block all of the ads? Advertisers are going to notice things like that.
Edited by IronCamel - 7/7/12 at 7:28pm

I actually like it i have experienced no issues, I get all my emails for every post, easy to navigate. I actually like the layout. I barley even use tapatalk as i found the main loads just as fast on my mobile.