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post #1051 of 2849
I'm still using Standard mode. I have not found settings that I like for Movie. Movie always seems too dark to me and I end up cranking up the backlight into the teens.
post #1052 of 2849
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Originally Posted by scJohn View Post

I'm still using Standard mode. I have not found settings that I like for Movie. Movie always seems too dark to me and I end up cranking up the backlight into the teens.

Me too. Have tried Movie mode and do not like it at all. I like a vibrant picture, not a dull one.
post #1053 of 2849
so after this update the smart hub flash still is showing up on my set 025 fw update for my 7100 can anyone else confirm
post #1054 of 2849
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Originally Posted by delaAVS View Post

so after this update the smart hub flash still is showing up on my set 025 fw update for my 7100 can anyone else confirm

Looking at the fixes, it shows it does not fix that problem. There was a post on Twitter saying the fix for the Smart Hub will be out on the 20th.
post #1055 of 2849
Here's the description for the latest firmware. Looks like they finally figured out the 1080p problem!


This firmware is for TV Model(s):EH4500 / EH5300 / ES6100-7150
The version is 1025.0
This firmware update will improve the following:

- Resolves picture shaking and line noise on 1080p source.

- Supports Yahoo SyncPlus app..

- Resolves escaping issue while watching movie on VUDU.

- Resolves issue Cinemanow does not play certain title.

- Resolves compatibility issue with DLNA devices.

- Improves picture quality.

- Supports Samsung wireless Audio Dock

- Solves the problem closed caption does not show.
post #1056 of 2849
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Originally Posted by markc72 View Post

Me too. Have tried Movie mode and do not like it at all. I like a vibrant picture, not a dull one.

The thing that always confuses me though is that nobody complains about movie theaters and yet Movie Mode, with a proper calibration, in a dark room is far and away closer to what a movie theater shows than all the hyped up TV modes.
post #1057 of 2849
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Originally Posted by ELMO45 View Post

Here's the description for the latest firmware.
This firmware update will improve the following:
- Resolves picture shaking and line noise on 1080p source.

What does this issue look like and when does it occur?
post #1058 of 2849
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Originally Posted by scJohn View Post

I'm still using Standard mode. I have not found settings that I like for Movie. Movie always seems too dark to me and I end up cranking up the backlight into the teens.

Do you have contrast up high, like high 90's in movie mode or turned down low?
post #1059 of 2849
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Originally Posted by jtc2112 View Post

I keep going back to movie mode too.
I used ticman's settings from earlier in this thread, they were for movie mode...so I just used the same settings for standard thinking I may like it better sense I do have some clouding in the corners during very dark scenes sense this mode allows for micro dimming. I like the results, I've been watching everythin in movie mode, but now I think I will only watch TV in movie mode and watch blu rays in standard.
NOTE: I have tweaked ticmans settings, if and when I'm happy I will post mine. I'm still learning and still have questions as I've had the TV less then a week.
What's the story on natural and dynamic modes? Anyone have any input or thoughts about those modes.
Also, what is this massaging I keep seeing being mentioned?
Do the corner clouds get better when you hang the set?
Also, I've noticed everyone seems to peg out Contrast, but it seems to "blow" out the picture making the picture seem to have a white sheet over it, like your looking through a slightly frosted piece of glass. I don't get it. It also seems to me a lot of settings I see have the BL at 9 or above. I'm liking 9 or lower depending on daytime or nightime
Any comments or suggestions thoughts, I'm holding back on just asking a ton of questions. Not that you can tell haha
And one more note. The Action scenes from the Avengers looks amazing on my set

Hmmm not sure what you mean by white sheet over it with contrast high. In 3D mode I did find that contrast over 70 blows out channels but in 2D mode it seems to behave pretty much fine way up there, at least on the sets I've had. I guess it can depends upon your set and also what panel is in it.

Yeah I run my BL way lower than most people on forums suggest (closer to what you find on some pro calibration threads, which tend to set BL much lower).
In a dark room I even go as low as BL3 and don't like above 4 and certainly not above 5, that just kills the deep blacks. In the daytime I can higher, up to around 12 for a really bright day with lots of sun coming in.
(For 3D mode I might set it twice as high though)
post #1060 of 2849
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Originally Posted by scJohn View Post

It all depends on how you come out of the 'panel lottery'. If you get a good panel then the 7100 can put out a pretty good picture.

Glad you brought this up. I am really looking at this set and I was curious about the panel lottery on it. Is it like other Samsungs where you can see what panel you are getting by looking on the box for a version number like TS or HS? If so, what is considered the best?

I've already returned an es6100 for terrible view angle and flashlighting.

Thanks!
post #1061 of 2849
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by delaAVS View Post

so after this update the smart hub flash still is showing up on my set 025 fw update for my 7100 can anyone else confirm

Mine still has the smart hub flash. I have firmware 1025

I hope they fix this sooner or later. frown.gif
post #1062 of 2849
SmartHub issue is tied to SmartHub - there will be an update later this month for it. The firmware on the TV would not fix this issue....
post #1063 of 2849
So. My tv has a lot of clouding I guess. I'm not sure of the terms. But in dark scenes there are lighter splotches over large segments of the screen. What's this massage technique people mentioned? How does that work?
post #1064 of 2849
I've only had the television a week and a half, but is it too early to massage it?
post #1065 of 2849
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Originally Posted by Myrthin View Post

So. My tv has a lot of clouding I guess. I'm not sure of the terms. But in dark scenes there are lighter splotches over large segments of the screen. What's this massage technique people mentioned? How does that work?

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Originally Posted by BigMacSC99 View Post

I've only had the television a week and a half, but is it too early to massage it?

Massaging the screen is basically just cleaning it with some firm but light pressure (press too hard and you will damage your screen) over the clouding (i.e. lighter splotches). Use a microfiber cloth that is meant to be used to clean TV screens (I use my monster microfiber cloth with the cleaning solution) - this will ensure you aren't scratching the screen. I have no idea why or how it works - some people say loosening screws on the back of a TV helps too, but that is too invasive for me.

As far is if it is too early, I would wait few weeks before massaging to give the panel a chance to break-in as why even risk applying any pressure on the screen if you don't have to.
post #1066 of 2849
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Originally Posted by skibum5000 View Post

What does this issue look like and when does it occur?

It was a firmware problem in 1022-1024 updates.

Here's what it looks like from LRC253's TV:

http://youtu.be/jvNbG2rnx5c
post #1067 of 2849
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Originally Posted by skibum5000 View Post

What does this issue look like and when does it occur?

It was a firmware problem in 1022-1024 updates.

Here's what it looks like from LRC253's TV:

http://youtu.be/jvNbG2rnx5c
post #1068 of 2849
Not sure if it was like this before, but you can now delete the SyncPlus app instead of just turning it off. Also, I noticed for 2 days now after SmartHub updated for me that that there is no SmartHub flash.
post #1069 of 2849
Hi Guys,

I have a question regarding a remote control. I have an issue with my remote control while I'm using youtube or netfilx app on my tv. TV stops responding to the remote control(I cannot use any of the buttons on it) and i have to wait more than 3 minutes to get tv responds to anything. When it starts responding it's not smooth but it catches maybe two button clicks out of five I would say. Is that just my tv or maybe you have the same issues? I also noticed that when i click a button on my remote control tv led is not flashing, its like tv doesn't see that.

Any idea/advice?
post #1070 of 2849
UPDATE 1025 IS OUT:

My ES7100 biggrin.gif came with ver 1022 and I noticed no problems over 6 days. Just updated it to 1025 and picture seems even better which is saying a lot as it was quite good out of the box. My panel is HS01. But it had such bad screen-uniformity I was going to take it back to where I got it and went back to thinking plasma after owning 2 Mits X7s and a Mits 40-809. But I came here after Google led the way and heard people saying LED TVs need to break in. I try to keep an open mind but WOW....it's true. Only 6 days and 75% has already corrected itself without touching the screen. I think it happens because the screen is so thin and gets flexed a little being boxed up or unpacked by most people.

BTW, not to sound like a salesman but I avoided Best Buy and Costco's special number TVs after researching differences in model numbers which was really hard to do. Had to find people online that experienced and knew the differences. With Sharp and Vizio it's substantial where important things are missing when a letter is added or changed. I was getting a 60in 2011 Sharp 835 "standard model number" because I could research it, knew what it was, and at 8:30 PM after over a month of constant research missing sleep and an hour+ drive I was really excited and only 20 minutes away from Fred Myers sale price driving to get it when I heard a Video Only (never heard of them before) ad on the radio selling both Sharps and Samsung. So just for fun called them to confirm my value oriented "smart" decision knowing the "too bright and pretty" Samsungs are pretty much price matched and the Sharp was a much better buy.

But in talking tech their sales guy said I really needed to see a proper demo comparing the Sharp and Sam Sung first, but they were closing at 9:00 PM. First time a proper demo was offered and I could tell he was right. ERRR! I hate it when that happens. But he said it would be obvious to see in less than a minute so I said I'd stop there first because luckily the next exit took me there and he said they would wait a few minutes to close. I ended up getting the 7100 I'd seen many times only because they had their demo room (and the TV) set up right. After seeing a very respectable picture on the 7100 without wearing so much lip stick, and seeing the clarity in motion difference between the Sharp and the Samsung I decided the extra cash for the Samsung 7100 was required or I'd regret it. The Sharp just couldn't keep up and looked blurry. So to people that like sports calling the 720 and 960 flow-motion hype I suggest they see a proper demo first, which is hard to find. Looking at a set in the store is not the same as living with it at home.

But honestly.....the last thing I ever expected to believe was an LED HDTV would need to "break-in" like some high-end audio gear I've owned and hear some people were giving theirs a massage. Well I have to go....my TV's getting turned on.
Edited by Bellringer - 12/14/12 at 11:27am
post #1071 of 2849
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Originally Posted by BigMacSC99 View Post

I've only had the television a week and a half, but is it too early to massage it?

I'd wait another week or two and see what it does on it's own.....
post #1072 of 2849
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Originally Posted by meawar View Post

Hi Guys,
I have a question regarding a remote control. I have an issue with my remote control while I'm using youtube or netfilx app on my tv. TV stops responding to the remote control(I cannot use any of the buttons on it) and i have to wait more than 3 minutes to get tv responds to anything. When it starts responding it's not smooth but it catches maybe two button clicks out of five I would say. Is that just my tv or maybe you have the same issues? I also noticed that when i click a button on my remote control tv led is not flashing, its like tv doesn't see that.
Any idea/advice?

I have the same issue with the remote not functioning when playing a youtube video - I should note that the joystick on the tv does function though.
I also have the Smart Hub Flash Issue (2mins after tv is on).
post #1073 of 2849
I've had a 55" for about a month now. I do not have it connected to the Internet - as I use my blu-ray player for Netflix, Amazon, Vudu etc.
Quick question - any reason I need to update the firmware? In reading through this thread I've seen a lot of issues with firmware so I've avoided it.
Will I really see a benefit in updating? I've got very little flashlighting in the bottom right corner and almost no clouding. Still tweaking setttings - looking for that perfect picture haha! :tongue.gif
Any advice would be welcome!
post #1074 of 2849
Izzard

there is no reason to change the firmware. If it aint broke do not fix it. There is talk that new firmware release is coming out by the 20th that will fix everything.

You can wait and let the more experience members asses and report on it.

There are some good settings(2) at post 631on this forum:) you may want to try.smile.gif

Many members have commented on both suggested set of settings as being very good

I used the first set of settings and tweked my temperature to cool and I was very happy with the results
post #1075 of 2849
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Originally Posted by James T View Post

Izzard
there is no reason to change the firmware. If it aint broke do not fix it. There is talk that new firmware release is coming out by the 20th that will fix everything.
You can wait and let the more experience members asses and report on it.
There are some good settings(2) at post 631on this forum:) you may want to try.smile.gif
Many members have commented on both suggested set of settings as being very good
I used the first set of settings and tweked my temperature to cool and I was very happy with the results

New firmware is out - 1025.

On the 20th (or around the 20th) there will be a Smart Hub update that should fix the Smart Hub flash during the first 2 minutes.

mrw1zard - what firmware is currently loaded on your set. If it is 1022,1023 or 1024 I would highly suggest you update to 1025. If you are running firmware older than 1022, you can sit tight and see if you have any issues with the set.

Just a general FYI to the group. I updated to 1025 yesterday and after a day or so of viewing the set, I honestly believe the picture is better than it has been over the last few firmware updates - very happy with it. Once the Smart Hub update is pushed, I may just disconnect my wifi from the TV as I really do not use any of the online applications....my TiVo and BD-E6500 are the primary streaming devices.
post #1076 of 2849
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Originally Posted by skibum5000 View Post

I think Movie Mode is the best mode.

Me too! For me the colors look so much more natural and realistic in Movie mode vs Standard mode. Possibly could get Standard mode to look like Movie mode and enable the Micro dimming but I haven't been able to do that yet. So far really happy with this TV! However i agree with another post saying the out-of-box settings were bad. The red especially was just way outlandish, especially in Standard mode.

Side note: this TV (based on Kill-a-watt) uses slightly less power than the 27" crt it replaced.
post #1077 of 2849
Updated my firmware - so far so good. Although it did clear my settings, thankfully I have them saved on my computer for easy reference.
post #1078 of 2849
Interesting articles about security hole in the SmartHub software (Linux based). It appears only an issue if attacker has access to your local network.

http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/12/12/samsung-tv-vulnerability/
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9234621/Samsung_TV_vulnerability_could_let_a_hacker_change_the_channel?taxonomyId=85
post #1079 of 2849
Keep in mind that scenario assumes or requires the hacker to already have access to your home LAN.

Yes it has a hole and is not very secure, but if someone compromises your network, you are going to have bigger problems than someone messing with your TV - IMO.
post #1080 of 2849
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Originally Posted by EAnglum View Post

Keep in mind that scenario assumes or requires the hacker to already have access to your home LAN.
Yes it has a hole and is not very secure, but if someone compromises your network, you are going to have bigger problems than someone messing with your TV - IMO.

This. That's like saying you're going to have a huge home security issue if someone has a key to your house. Make sure you have strong protection on your router and totally disregard this "security hole".
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