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post #1951 of 2849
"I had posted a question some time ago and just never got the answer for it. I wanted to confirm if during 3d mode being active, I have noticed that the brightness gets dimmed a bit more then my preset settings. I noticed it when I press the info button and i see the energy consumption level lower. Is this normal to happen or not? Thanks."

Anyone have the answer to this.
Edited by Banditione - 2/8/13 at 7:17am
post #1952 of 2849
I updated to the latest firmware 1027 last night through online. Samsung website still has not posted this version yet.

Question here is that after the TV download the necessary file(s) and updated the firmware, does it delete those file(s) which no longer needed? In the future if I keep doing update the firmware online and if the TV does not delete those downloaded files after updating the firmware, it will waste memory space on your TV.

Thanks
post #1953 of 2849
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Its on the ES8000 only.
Thanks, I can stop looking for it.
post #1954 of 2849
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Originally Posted by kparonso View Post

I think the answer is different depending on if you are using HDMI-CEC/Anynet and ARC or not.

If you are using HDMI-CEC/Anynet and ARC:

Assuming your TV signal is coming from a Fios/Cable/Sat box you have HDMI going through your AVR then on to the TV. Your source for this content on the AVR is likely Sat/Cbl, or something other than the "TV" source on the AVR.

- Make sure your HDMI cable is going to the HDMI 2 input on the Samsung as this port is the only one that has ARC functionality
- On the AVR make sure that your setting for HDMI Control is turned ON
- On the Samsung make sure Anynet is turned on and within Anynet the Receiver is recognized and turned on.
- On the Samsung make sure that Speakers are set to External

With this set up, when you go to Smart Hub, the Samsung should switch the AVR input to TV source and you should hear sound. If it doesn't automatically switch your source then you don't have Anynet/ARC working and you don't have either your cables or settings correct yet. Another thing to check is your input assignments/settings on the AVR to make sure TV source is set to auto and you're not assigning opt or cmp sources or something like that.

I tried this set up and this is where I found the issue of Samsung automatically switching the AVR source to TV every time I turned on the Samsung. The CEC/ARC functionality worked and I got streaming audio to play on the AVR but the automatic switching of source upon power up is a deal breaker for me.

So if you are not using ARC for streaming audio then you must use an optical cable from Samsung to AVR:

- On the AVR make sure your setting for HDMI Control is turned OFF
- On the Samsung make sure Anynet is turned OFF
- On the Samsung make sure Speakers are still set to External
- On the AVR input assignments make sure TV source is set to Opt 1 (assuming you connected your optical to Opt 1 port).
- When you go to Smart Hub and start streaming you need to make sure you switch your AVR to the TV source.

With this you lose all CEC/ARC functionality but you should be able to program your Harmony remote to do all your input switching for you when you go between watching TV and using Smart Hub content.

Thanks so much for your detailed response.

My setup before your response:

Tivo through my cable company.
HDMI from the ARC of my AVR to the ARC of the 7100.
HDMI from my Tivo and BD player going to the AVR. No other cables.
Source for TV is DVR, not sat/cab.
HDMI control was off.
Anynet was off.
Speakers were set to external from day one. Never even heard the 7100 speakers.
DVR input mode set to auto.

I turned the HDMI control on. Then i went to Anynet and turned that on, and when i did, it found my AVR.
From watching TV, i clicked the Smart Hub button, but with that up, the TV was still playing in the upper left corner with the TV sound. I then clicked on Pandora, and when that loaded and started playing, i was still listening to the audio from the TV channel i had on. I've tried this a few times. Sometimes when i go into the Hub, it would say disconnecting Anynet and receiver, or something similar. Then i went back to my 7100 menu and saw that Anynet was still on. So at this point, i still must not have something set up correctly.
When i go into the Hub, should my TV sound stop right away, or not until i actually load Pandora?
Keep in mind that i'm using a Harmony One remote. But when i use the Denon remote and press the Tuner source button, it plays my FM. I then go back to DVR on the Denon, and the TV sound is back on, but no Pandora. Should my Denon still be on DVR for Pandora to work?

Hopefully i gave you enough info for you to know what i might be doing wrong.

Thanks...
post #1955 of 2849
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Originally Posted by mkc4091 View Post

I updated to the latest firmware 1027 last night through online. Samsung website still has not posted this version yet.

Question here is that after the TV download the necessary file(s) and updated the firmware, does it delete those file(s) which no longer needed? In the future if I keep doing update the firmware online and if the TV does not delete those downloaded files after updating the firmware, it will waste memory space on your TV.

Thanks

Yes- It deletes the older firmware, no memory space lost.
post #1956 of 2849
A quick note just to thank all the members of this thread that took the time and effort to post their thoughts and information to interested parties. I spent several days reviewing this thread before deciding to purchase my 55ES7100. I was lucky enough to have made the purchase before the price went up...it was delivered yesterday and with the knowledge I was able to get from the posts here, the set-up was easy. I used the settings from post 631 NITRA and couldn't be more impressed with the results.

One thing I'd like to comment on that I really didn't see discussed is the power consumption on this set.......compared to many of the other brands in the price/feature range, this set is remarkably efficient. My old Samsung (UN46B8000) consumed approximately 134 watts...this set uses approximately 61.4 watts after the Nitra settings were applied. Over a period of years, the savings on power consumption will have an added value to this model. Just one more reason for anyone to help justify purchasing one of these sets!
post #1957 of 2849
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Originally Posted by joeyddr View Post

anyone able to stream hd mkv files? i get an error saying its not supported, divx files seem to work fine.

MKV is a container and is supported. You did not mention what the vido codec inside the MKV was. There are restrictions on what video codecs are supported. See page 43 of the user manual for supported video codecs and there restrictions.
post #1958 of 2849
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Originally Posted by Jaa999Pa View Post

Thanks so much for your detailed response.


When i go into the Hub, should my TV sound stop right away, or not until i actually load Pandora?
Keep in mind that i'm using a Harmony One remote. But when i use the Denon remote and press the Tuner source button, it plays my FM. I then go back to DVR on the Denon, and the TV sound is back on, but no Pandora. Should my Denon still be on DVR for Pandora to work?

Hopefully i gave you enough info for you to know what i might be doing wrong.

Thanks...

You will continue to get TV sound until you 'run' the Pandora app. Have you taken the Hulu Plus app for a test drive and see if that works correctly? It's possible that there could be a bug in the Pandora app.
post #1959 of 2849
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Originally Posted by scJohn View Post

You will continue to get TV sound until you 'run' the Pandora app. Have you taken the Hulu Plus app for a test drive and see if that works correctly? It's possible that there could be a bug in the Pandora app.

Just tried Hulu Plus, and same thing. The TV continues to output sound from the cable box.
post #1960 of 2849
Banditione-


"I had posted a question some time ago and just never got the answer for it. I wanted to confirm if during 3d mode being active, I have noticed that the brightness gets dimmed a bit more then my preset settings. I noticed it when I press the info button and i see the energy consumption level lower. Is this normal to happen or not? Thanks."

Anyone have the answer to this.

Edited by Banditione - Today at 9:17 am

I checked into this and I do see that the TV shows way less Energy consumption on the meter in 3D mode. That does seem a bit weird. My TV doesn't really dim that much though. I do set my backlite higher in 3D mode to help offset that though. Hope this helps as your TV is working normally.
post #1961 of 2849
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaa999Pa View Post

Thanks so much for your detailed response.

My setup before your response:

Tivo through my cable company.
HDMI from the ARC of my AVR to the ARC of the 7100.
HDMI from my Tivo and BD player going to the AVR. No other cables.
Source for TV is DVR, not sat/cab.
HDMI control was off.
Anynet was off.
Speakers were set to external from day one. Never even heard the 7100 speakers.
DVR input mode set to auto.

I turned the HDMI control on. Then i went to Anynet and turned that on, and when i did, it found my AVR.
From watching TV, i clicked the Smart Hub button, but with that up, the TV was still playing in the upper left corner with the TV sound. I then clicked on Pandora, and when that loaded and started playing, i was still listening to the audio from the TV channel i had on. I've tried this a few times. Sometimes when i go into the Hub, it would say disconnecting Anynet and receiver, or something similar. Then i went back to my 7100 menu and saw that Anynet was still on. So at this point, i still must not have something set up correctly.
When i go into the Hub, should my TV sound stop right away, or not until i actually load Pandora?
Keep in mind that i'm using a Harmony One remote. But when i use the Denon remote and press the Tuner source button, it plays my FM. I then go back to DVR on the Denon, and the TV sound is back on, but no Pandora. Should my Denon still be on DVR for Pandora to work?

Hopefully i gave you enough info for you to know what i might be doing wrong.

Thanks...

I think I may know your issue.

When you say your source for TV is DVR I assume you are saying that your HDMI connection from your TIVO is going to the DVR input on your AVR correct?

I believe with ARC the Samsung returns the audio signal to the AVR under the "TV" source (don't read that to mean your DVR source for TV watching, I'm talking about the AVR source called TV). So I think all you need to do is to go from the DVR source (your Tivo connection) to the TV source. Make sure that in the TV source input assignments are all auto. I thought when I had this set up that Anynet automatically changed the source to TV for audio playback for Smart Hub but not 100% sure. It could be that your Harmony remote is doing something to override that.

Bottom line is if you are in Smart Hub and your Denon is still set to the DVR source you're not going to hear Smart Hub sound.

To rule out a Pandora issue, just go into the You Tube app and play any video and see if you get sound.
post #1962 of 2849
Hi all -- great info here. I love my 7100/7150, but something has me scratching my head.

Last week sometime, I turned off the tv and then cut power to the strip it is plugged into. The next morning, the volume level had changed significantly. What I mean by that is the volume was much quoted and needed to be turned up much higher than before (50 vs 80) to achieve the same level of sound.

I am not currently connected to any audio system but that will change soon. I am mostly concerned that my cutting the power completely, something got messed up.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
post #1963 of 2849
I did a full Factory Reset after FW 1027 as a Test.

I can confirm you DO NOT have to perform the full Factory Reset to get improved Picture Quality.

Simply use the Picture Reset at the bottom of the Menu - in Picture Settings for each input.
post #1964 of 2849
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Originally Posted by kparonso View Post

I think I may know your issue.

When you say your source for TV is DVR I assume you are saying that your HDMI connection from your TIVO is going to the DVR input on your AVR correct?

I believe with ARC the Samsung returns the audio signal to the AVR under the "TV" source (don't read that to mean your DVR source for TV watching, I'm talking about the AVR source called TV). So I think all you need to do is to go from the DVR source (your Tivo connection) to the TV source. Make sure that in the TV source input assignments are all auto. I thought when I had this set up that Anynet automatically changed the source to TV for audio playback for Smart Hub but not 100% sure. It could be that your Harmony remote is doing something to override that.

Bottom line is if you are in Smart Hub and your Denon is still set to the DVR source you're not going to hear Smart Hub sound.

To rule out a Pandora issue, just go into the You Tube app and play any video and see if you get sound.

Correct, My Tivo is going to the DVR HDMI connection on my receiver. I will change it to the TV connection and enable the port when i get back home in a couple of days. I hope that's the problem!
post #1965 of 2849
After updating firm ware do you have to reset picture settings for firm ware improvements to take place?
post #1966 of 2849
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Originally Posted by bizkit14 View Post

After updating firm ware do you have to reset picture settings for firm ware improvements to take place?

Yes, if not the Picture Quality will stay the same after update.

Which is good if you like they way your picture looks, firmware updapes won't change PQ - without the picture reset.
post #1967 of 2849
I'm trying to use the pandora app and I keep getting a licensing message/error and it will not play. I'm able to play YouTube, so I'm pretty sure it's just a pandora thing. Anyone have a similar problem and a solution?
post #1968 of 2849
Settings Updated for FW 1026 and 1027.

Movie Mode same as before, changes to Standard, Natural, Dynamic and 3D.

Samsung ES7100 Settings 2.0

--Picture menu
Mode: Movie
Backlight: 10
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 20
Color: 47
Tint: G50/R50

Screen adjustment submenu:
Picture Size: Screen Fit/16:9
Position: [no change]

Auto Adjustment submenu: [Grayed out]

3D submenu: N/A

Advanced settings submenu:
Dynamic contrast: Off
Black tone: Off
Flesh tone: 0
RGB Only Mode: Off
Color space: Custom
White Balance: [see below]
10p White Balance: On
Gamma: -1
Expert Pattern: Off
xvYCC: Off
Motion Lighting: Off [grayed out]

Color Space submenu:
Color Space: Custom
Red: Red 50, Green 0, Blue 0
Green: Red 4, Green 48, Blue 4
Blue: Red 2, Green 6, Blue 46
Yellow: Red 52, Green 50, Blue 4
Cyan: Red 0, Green 50, Blue 51
Magenta: Red 40, Green 6, Blue 44

White balance submenu:
R-Offset: 26
G-Offset: 26
B-Offset: 23
R-Gain: 25
G-Gain: 26
B-Gain: 27


10p White Balance submenu:
Interval 1: Red 0, Green +1, Blue +1
Interval 2: Red 0, Green 0, Blue +1
Interval 3: Red +2, Green +1, Blue +1
Interval 4: Red +2, Green +1, Blue +1
Interval 5: Red +1, Green +1, Blue +1
Interval 6: Red +2, Green +3, Blue +3
Interval 7: Red +1, Green +1, Blue +2
Interval 8: Red +1, Green +1, Blue +3
Interval 9: Red 0, Green 0, Blue +3
Interval 10: Red 0, Green 0, Blue +3

Picture options submenu
Color tone: Warm1
Digital Noise Filter: Off
MPEG Noise Filter: Off
HDMI black level: Normal [grayed out] Normal-Xbox360 with HDMI Color Space: RGB and Reference Level: Expanded
Film mode: Off/Auto 1-DirecTV
Auto Motion Plus: Off/Clear/ Custom
LED Motion Plus: On

Auto Motion Plus submenu:
Blur reduction: 10
Judder reduction: 0

3D - same as Movie except Backlight: 20 for all Picture Modes, Color: 44 for Standard and Dynamic,Color tone: Standard (Dynamic Only).

Dynamic - same as Movie except: Color: 40, Color tone: Standard, no Advanced settings

Natural – same as Movie except: Color: 40, no Advanced settings

Standard – same as Movie except, Color: 44, Color Space: Auto, no -10p White Balance

System> Eco Solution> Eco Sensor> On -Min. Backlight: 8 / Off

Nice...Again..biggrin.gif
post #1969 of 2849
Bluetooth Keyboard Not Connecting

After the 1027 update, anyone has issue with the bluetooth keyboard came with Costco 7150? Before the update, I used it once. It worked. After the update, I cannot pair to the TV anymore. I can turn on the TV from the keyboard but cannot use other functions.
post #1970 of 2849
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

I'm trying to use the pandora app and I keep getting a licensing message/error and it will not play. I'm able to play YouTube, so I'm pretty sure it's just a pandora thing. Anyone have a similar problem and a solution?

This sounds like you have not activated your device at the Pandora web site. If you did, then maybe you have to reactivate.
post #1971 of 2849
Hi,
I got the 7150 from costco. I am trying to use the youtbe app. But few minutes into the video, the audio/video goes out of sync. I tried restarting the tv also, but it doesnot work. Is there any workaround for this?The youtube app version is 1.074. Is there any way to configure the youtube app to not use HD?
Also, I reset the picture to use the default after installing the latest firmware 1027. Should I apply any more calibration? Or just use the default setting?

Thanks,
-Srini
post #1972 of 2849
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Originally Posted by scJohn View Post

This sounds like you have not activated your device at the Pandora web site. If you did, then maybe you have to reactivate.
Do I have to activate the TV? I currently have an active pandora account(iPad/iPhone).
post #1973 of 2849
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Originally Posted by scJohn View Post

This sounds like you have not activated your device at the Pandora web site. If you did, then maybe you have to reactivate.
Thanks scJohn, I did not realize that I had to activate my TV on the site. I just assumed all I had to do was open the app. smile.gif
post #1974 of 2849
After upgrading the Firmware to the latest version, the PQ does seem "better" - more saturation, color accuracy on this end. The sound issue that I started experiencing after cutting power to the unit (turn off the power strip it is plugged into) remains. I may end up taking it back to Costco as a result.

I tried PiratesCove's setup for Movie mode and it looks really good. The only complaint I have is that it really exposes clouding issues on a black screen. Is there any resolution to this other than turning down the backlight?

Thanks.
post #1975 of 2849
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Originally Posted by Jagoex View Post

After upgrading the Firmware to the latest version, the PQ does seem "better" - more saturation, color accuracy on this end. The sound issue that I started experiencing after cutting power to the unit (turn off the power strip it is plugged into) remains. I may end up taking it back to Costco as a result.

I tried PiratesCove's setup for Movie mode and it looks really good. The only complaint I have is that it really exposes clouding issues on a black screen. Is there any resolution to this other than turning down the backlight?

Thanks.

What would you get if you return this to Costco?
post #1976 of 2849
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Originally Posted by parodielin View Post

What would you get if you return this to Costco?

Not sure -- I REALLY like this TV but they have a number of appealing options. After using the basic WOW disc to calibrate the 7150, however, I'd be hard-pressed to find anything that can match it's quality and at it's price point.

That said, If I don't grab another copy of the 7150 in 55" or 60" I may look at one of the lower-end Samsung models (6100, to save some cash). Sony and LG have some appealing sets as well. Any recommendations?

I'm really just hoping that this audio issue finds resolution -- it's the key issue I'm dealing with at the moment.
Edited by Jagoex - 2/9/13 at 5:16pm
post #1977 of 2849
Jagoex... For a sound issue, you may want to try this. Go into the Sound menu. Select reset sound. Then for the loudest overall sound I have found for my place, I set the sound mode to Standard. I also set the sound affect with SRS TruSurround and SRS TruDialog to ON. I also set Auto Volume to Normal which also seems to bring up the volume level slightly. I also ust the EQ and raise the low and high end frequencys a bit but these settings for the EQ is all personel prefrence. I usually don't need to go above volume level 25 and NEVER as high as you had mentioned. If you still need to bring up the level that high after trying this, your TV should be exchanged while you still can. Hope this helps!
post #1978 of 2849
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Originally Posted by Jagoex View Post

After upgrading the Firmware to the latest version, the PQ does seem "better" - more saturation, color accuracy on this end. The sound issue that I started experiencing after cutting power to the unit (turn off the power strip it is plugged into) remains. I may end up taking it back to Costco as a result.

I tried PiratesCove's setup for Movie mode and it looks really good. The only complaint I have is that it really exposes clouding issues on a black screen. Is there any resolution to this other than turning down the backlight?

Thanks.

To fix your clouding you have three options that seem to work.

1. Wait about 3 weeks for the panel to fully brake in as that should help clouding a bit.
2. Use the screen massage method where the clouds are to remove them, but be VERY careful. This basically entails cleaning your TV with a microfiber cloth (while off) and applying more pressure to the areas where there are clouds.
3. Switch from using movie mode to standard mode as that kicks in micro-dimming and eliminates most clouding via software (although then you get CE dimming kicking in, which to some is worse than clouding. CE dimming is the TV cutting the backlight on a dark scene or black screen).
post #1979 of 2849
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Yes, if not the Picture Quality will stay the same after update.

Which is good if you like they way your picture looks, firmware updapes won't change PQ - without the picture reset.

Any idea why it requires a picture reset and won't just apply the updates to current settings?
post #1980 of 2849
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Originally Posted by mgh26 View Post

Jagoex... For a sound issue, you may want to try this. Go into the Sound menu. Select reset sound. Then for the loudest overall sound I have found for my place, I set the sound mode to Standard. I also set the sound affect with SRS TruSurround and SRS TruDialog to ON. I also set Auto Volume to Normal which also seems to bring up the volume level slightly. I also ust the EQ and raise the low and high end frequencys a bit but these settings for the EQ is all personel prefrence. I usually don't need to go above volume level 25 and NEVER as high as you had mentioned. If you still need to bring up the level that high after trying this, your TV should be exchanged while you still can. Hope this helps!

I will check that out for sure. What kind of speakers are you using?

I shouldn't have a problem exchanging the TV if needs be, but I haven't given up on the volume issue just yet. I haven't even unpacked my 5.1 system... but I almost don't want to if I can't make sense of this issue.

When I'm playing a Blu-ray disc, I need to turn the volume way up (which I understand is normal). But after the hard reset, I'm turning it up almost twice as high to reach the same level of audio. I just don't get it.
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