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post #2221 of 2849
Pirates Cove -

Thank you. I did find yours but have not had a chance to do them. What is most preferable - Movie, Standard, or Natural. ? I almost think Natural looks best using the preset settings.
post #2222 of 2849
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Originally Posted by dmt40 View Post

Unfortunately that only works with the 7500 and 8000 models but you're not missing much anyway, there's like a 2 second lag and a lot of stuttering in the picture.
Thank you for the info
post #2223 of 2849
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Originally Posted by dbalone View Post

Pirates Cove -

Thank you. I did find yours but have not had a chance to do them. What is most preferable - Movie, Standard, or Natural. ? I almost think Natural looks best using the preset settings.

I use Movie most of the time, that's for DirecTV and Blu-rays.

I use Standard only for Xbox360.

Natural is O.K., yet suffers from black crush and those weird skin tones you mentioned.

Dynamic is too blue in its color temperature.
post #2224 of 2849
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Originally Posted by Fatehavoc View Post

I also intermittently experience the volume not working bug. Only solution so far has been turn off and on. Mute also doesn't work. Firmware xx27. Any word of fixing this in xx29 firmware?

Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2
I wonder if this problem was due to Samsung Smart Hub doing somthing weird for a few days in the background creating the unresponsive volume control? Does this problem still show up for the guys that had the issue? It seems that the Smart Hub has setteled down and is working OK again. If true, Samsung's techniques for TV maintenence really SUCK! If not, since Samsung hasn't published Ver 1029 yet, no telling if this has been corrected with the latest firmware. I had Ver 1027 without any volume issues at all so is it really bad firmware (ver 1027) thats causing volume control issues? I don't think so. Not really 100% sure though.
post #2225 of 2849
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Originally Posted by mgh26 View Post

I wonder if this problem was due to Samsung Smart Hub doing somthing weird for a few days in the background creating the unresponsive volume control? Does this problem still show up for the guys that had the issue? It seems that the Smart Hub has setteled down and is working OK again. If true, Samsung's techniques for TV maintenence really SUCK! If not, since Samsung hasn't published Ver 1029 yet, no telling if this has been corrected with the latest firmware. I had Ver 1027 without any volume issues at all so is it really bad firmware (ver 1027) thats causing volume control issues? I don't think so. Not really 100% sure though.

Hindsight being 20/20, I don't believe the volume thing is fw related. I am on 1027 and experienced the volume not working on and off but it seems to have settled down for me the last day or so which seems to coincide with the smart hub also settling down. Knock on wood things are done being screwy. Going to hold off any fw update for now.

On a brighter note, whoever it was that posted about tigerdirect having the un55es7100 on sale for $1349 and getting bestbuy to price match, I owe you a drink. I was there tonight and got $161 including taxes back. I was told that they would only price match online retailers at time of purchase but was able to get the manager to do it.
Edited by zipit555 - 3/6/13 at 3:01am
post #2226 of 2849
Do you use game mode in standard mode for your 360? I have a PS3, Xbox, and Wii i didn't really like game mode when I tried it on my PS3 last night. Any suggestions on what settings for game mode? And between I really like your settings.
post #2227 of 2849
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

I use Movie most of the time, that's for DirecTV and Blu-rays.

I use Standard only for Xbox360.

Natural is O.K., yet suffers from black crush and those weird skin tones you mentioned.

Dynamic is too blue in its color temperature.


Do you use game mode in standard mode for your 360? I have a PS3, Xbox, and Wii i didn't really like game mode when I tried it on my PS3 last night. Any suggestions on what settings for game mode? And between I really like your settings.
post #2228 of 2849
I'm having issues with the Amazon app in the smart hub as well. It usually hangs at either a black or gray screen. I either have to exit the smart hub, or reboot the television to escape. I've already complained to Amazon; hopefully they are working with Samsung to get this figured out, since they advertise it as a feature of the tv. Amazon streams fine on my computers and tablets. So it is not a network issue. My workaround has been to run an HDMI cable from the computer to the tv, but I shouldn't have to do that.
post #2229 of 2849
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Originally Posted by shootndrun View Post

Do you use game mode in standard mode for your 360? I have a PS3, Xbox, and Wii i didn't really like game mode when I tried it on my PS3 last night. Any suggestions on what settings for game mode? And between I really like your settings.

Yes, Game Mode only allows for Standard.

Game Mode is for mainly for Multiplayer, for Single player you could leave it off.

I have my Game HDMI input calibrated for Movie Mode also, yet rarely use it.

Try Movie or Natural...I like Standard for Games the key is :

HDMI black level: Normal [grayed out] -Game System with HDMI Color Space: RGB and Reference Level: Expanded

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1414638/official-samsung-unxxes7100-thread/1950#post_22943484
post #2230 of 2849
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Yes, Game Mode only allows for Standard.

Game Mode is for mainly for Multiplayer, for Single player you could leave it off.

I have my Game HDMI input calibrated for Movie Mode also, yet rarely use it.

Try Movie or Natural...I like Standard for Games the key is :

HDMI black level: Normal [grayed out] -Game System with HDMI Color Space: RGB and Reference Level: Expanded

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1414638/official-samsung-unxxes7100-thread/1950#post_22943484

Thanks movie is good I just manipulated the game mode settings and all is fine.
post #2231 of 2849
Here's some comments on the latest firmware update... The picture quality has not improved with this update. It has caused the Standard settings to be to very Dark and I now have black crush with my current birghtness setting of 46. My TV lost that sweet spot that finally delivered a GREAT picture without any tweaking for every channel change. Even after playing around and having to bump up brightness to 47, The picture is now really good again but micro diming seems more prevelent (which I don't like much). I believe that I would not install this if I had it to do over again.
post #2232 of 2849
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Originally Posted by mgh26 View Post

Here's some comments on the latest firmware update... The picture quality has not improved with this update. It has caused the Standard settings to be to very Dark and I now have black crush with my current birghtness setting of 46. My TV lost that sweet spot that finally delivered a GREAT picture without any tweaking for every channel change. Even after playing around and having to bump up brightness to 47, The picture is now really good again but micro diming seems more prevelent (which I don't like much). I believe that I would not install this if I had it to do over again.

Sad to hear.....but thanks for the information.

Looks like Firmware 1026 and 1027 are the two to keep until an "improved" update.

Evidence the Firmware updates and the picture reset does effect Picture Quality and settings.
post #2233 of 2849
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Originally Posted by mgh26 View Post

Here's some comments on the latest firmware update... The picture quality has not improved with this update. It has caused the Standard settings to be to very Dark and I now have black crush with my current birghtness setting of 46. My TV lost that sweet spot that finally delivered a GREAT picture without any tweaking for every channel change. Even after playing around and having to bump up brightness to 47, The picture is now really good again but micro diming seems more prevelent (which I don't like much). I believe that I would not install this if I had it to do over again.
To be honest I thought 1027 was darker than the previous at first and I changed the brightness from 45 to 47. I gradually went back to 45 over the following days. It could have been that the TV hadn't warmed up when I updated the firmware.
post #2234 of 2849
My new un46es7100 arrives today, needless to say I'm like a kid on xmas morning. My current TV is the Panasonic th46pz85u, so I expect a major upgrade in PQ. Couple quick questions, since I am VERY new to most, if not all of this technology. Do the HDMI cables I use matter? If so, which are recommended. Mine came with 2 10 footers. I also have my old HDMI from a few years ago (not sure if the tech has improved in the last 5 years).

On this TV, will I be able to download and watch AVI files? I normally download football games to my PC, then connect my PC to my Panasonic to rewatch games. It would be great If I could just watch them directly on the new set.

I am getting ready to switch providers for TV and internet (potentially), any recommendations one way or the other? I currently have Directv and Verizon for internet, but am open to changing.

Last, do most of you use the same settings regardless of what you are viewing on the TV? Meaning, do you have one set of presets for normal TV viewing, another for Bluray and DVD, and another for sports?

Love this thread and all of the great info it has offered. Cheers, and thanks to anyone who wants to take the time to reply!

Jeff, Boston MA
post #2235 of 2849
When purchasing new HDMI cables they should be rated as "high speed". Just about all new cables are rated this. I'm using my 4 year old cables without any issues.

AVI is supported as a File Extension and as a Container. However, there are video and audio codec restrictions that may render your AVI files unplayable. If your codecs fall within the 'normal' usage range you should be okay. See page 43 of the user manual. I doubt that you will be able to download AVI files directly on the TV.

I would stick with DirecTV unless you can change to a fiber optic connection. In general, there is just to much compression going on on most Cable TV. As an aside, have you considered going OTA for your local staions? That will be you best quality.

I would say about 50% go with one Picture mode (Standard or Movie) for all of their devices. The other 50% will do a split. Take me as an example. For OTA I use Standard and for BD and DirectTV I use Movie. For game playing some people use Standard and Movie for everything else.
post #2236 of 2849
Thanks John. Seems the consensus is that all new HDMI are created equal, that's good to know. I'll have to give the AVI a try when I get home and hope for the best. Fiber optic is available through Verizon Fios I believe, so I may make the switch. You asked, " have you considered going OTA for your local stations? That will be you best quality." Forgive my ignorance, but what is OTA??? Thanks again for the great info.

-Jeff
post #2237 of 2849
Yes, most HDMI cables are created equal but the pricing will vary greatly. Do not over pay for good quality cables.

OTA = Over The Air antenna. What everybody used to get the TV signal before cable.
post #2238 of 2849
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Originally Posted by scJohn View Post

When purchasing new HDMI cables they should be rated as "high speed". Just about all new cables are rated this. I'm using my 4 year old cables without any issues.

AVI is supported as a File Extension and as a Container. However, there are video and audio codec restrictions that may render your AVI files unplayable. If your codecs fall within the 'normal' usage range you should be okay. See page 43 of the user manual. I doubt that you will be able to download AVI files directly on the TV.

I would stick with DirecTV unless you can change to a fiber optic connection. In general, there is just to much compression going on on most Cable TV. As an aside, have you considered going OTA for your local staions? That will be you best quality.

I would say about 50% go with one Picture mode (Standard or Movie) for all of their devices. The other 50% will do a split. Take me as an example. For OTA I use Standard and for BD and DirectTV I use Movie. For game playing some people use Standard and Movie for everything else.

A couple of items the 7100 TV will play AVI and MKV files from a hard drive or a memory stick and it has played everything else that I have used to date, as far as downloading I am not aware that you can.

HDMI cables are just marked HDMI they changed the format about a year ago from using the numbers HDMI 1,2,3,4.

If you are currently not using newer cables your set up will not be backward compatible. The new cables send a signal both ways so when you turn on the tv potentially that will turn on the AV receiver(depending on the unit) mine is a denon and it works that way.
Also you may have problems with a 3 D signal if you are using older HDMI cables.

I suggest you Google HDMI cables or check them out at cnet there are some informative information and interesting facts that users should be aware of to make them perform properly.
post #2239 of 2849
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Originally Posted by scJohn View Post

When purchasing new HDMI cables they should be rated as "high speed". Just about all new cables are rated this.
I would stick with DirecTV unless you can change to a fiber optic connection. In general, there is just to much compression going on on most Cable TV.

+1, High Speed HDMI for 3D signals and best 1080i from DirecTV, also turn film mode: on for better 1080i picture.

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Originally Posted by James T View Post


If you are currently not using newer cables your set up will not be backward compatible. The new cables send a signal both ways so when you turn on the tv potentially that will turn on the AV receiver(depending on the unit) mine is a denon and it works that way.
Also you may have problems with a 3 D signal if you are using older HDMI cables.

+1, Samsung has Anynet+ that's HDMI-CEC that has addition control options for Receivers, Blu-ray Players and Remote Control options.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#CEC
post #2240 of 2849
Thanks for the advice. I have seen the panel lottery referenced on here many times. Which are considered to be the "good" panels, and which are the "bad" panels? Or, is it all random dumb luck?
post #2241 of 2849
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Originally Posted by jtkane View Post

Thanks for the advice. I have seen the panel lottery referenced on here many times. Which are considered to be the "good" panels, and which are the "bad" panels? Or, is it all random dumb luck?

This is not 100% proven, but the consensus is that Samsung made panels are better.

I have the US02 panel.

US02 is a Samsung panel its classified as "A" meaning Samsung in the service menu (DON'T GO into the SERVICE MENU).

Example: Version US02. The Service Menu shows 46A2UF0E

46 (panel size)
A panel manufacturer (A = Samsung; D = Chi Mei ; L = AU Optronics )
2 frequency (6 = 50/60 Hz; 1 = 100/120 Hz; 2 = 200/240 Hz)
U panel (A = AntiGlare; T = TN; U = Ultra Clear)
F resolution (F = Full HD; H = HD; U = UD)
0 1st, 2nd panel and so on (1st = 0; 2nd = 1 ...)
E backlight unit (C = CCFL; L = LED; E = Edge LED)

Version "A" panels: AU Optronics.
Version "S" panels: Samsung.
Version "C" panels: Chi Mei.
Version "HS" panels: 60 inches - Sharp.
Version "TH" panels: Samsung.
Version "TS" panels: Samsung.
Version "US" panels: Samsung.


US0x or TH0x or TS0x: Samsung S-PVA panel.- Best

HS0x: Sharp ASV panel: -Very Good

A_0X: AU Otronics A-MVA panel: - Good

CH0x or CM0x or CS0x: Chi Mei S-MVA panel: - O.K.


Panel Types are listed on the both sides of the HDTV Box (in store).
post #2242 of 2849
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

+1, High Speed HDMI for 3D signals and best 1080i from DirecTV, also turn film mode: on for better 1080i picture.
+1, Samsung has Anynet+ that's HDMI-CEC that has addition control options for Receivers, Blu-ray Players and Remote Control options.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#CEC

I do not use the Samsung feature but the point I am attempting to make is that the new HDMI cables send a signal both ways. I really do not know how older cables work with Samsung features but it would be advisable to use the latest HDMI cables cause HDMI1.3 only permits a 1 way signal. I looked at the winkepedia link and obviously by reading what's in there each version of the cable has improved and they even expect a better one late 2013.

So when you use older cables you are not getting all the features and the original post was that 4 year old HMI cables were being used.

Also I believe they have stopped numbering the cables and 1.4 or 4 is the current version..

Interesting article on the features of HDMI http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/hdmi-1-4-cable.htm
Edited by James T - 3/9/13 at 7:37am
post #2243 of 2849
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Originally Posted by James T View Post

I do not use the Samsung feature but the point I am attempting to make that the new HDMI cables send a signal both ways. I really do not know how older cables with Samsung features but it would be advisable to use the latest HDMI cables cause HDMI 3 only permits a 1 way signal

Right, that is HDMI-CEC.

From the above link:

"Trade names for CEC are Anynet+ (Samsung); Aquos Link (Sharp); BRAVIA Link and BRAVIA Sync (Sony); HDMI-CEC (Hitachi); E-link (AOC); Kuro Link (Pioneer); CE-Link and Regza Link (Toshiba); RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI) (Onkyo); RuncoLink (Runco International); SimpLink (LG); HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, VIERA Link (Panasonic); EasyLink (Philips); and NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi)."
post #2244 of 2849
After a couple of days with the ES7100 off, and "re-discovering" this set- I can objectively say....

This HDTV has a stunning and gorgeous picture with a quality source and dialed-in settings.

Its nice to have had 3 months of outstanding HD experiences after the previous 3 of HD issues (with the D6900). biggrin.gif
post #2245 of 2849
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

After a couple of days with the ES7100 off, and "re-discovering" this set- I can objectively say....

This HDTV has a stunning and gorgeous picture with a quality source and dialed-in settings.

Its nice to have had 3 months of outstanding HD experiences after the previous 3 of HD issues (with the D6900). biggrin.gif

I completely agree PC. I was thinking this last night as well. I've had 4 months with my 7150 and still blown away. I'm using 10k's movie mode settings. Have you upgraded to the latest firm ware?
post #2246 of 2849
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Originally Posted by uclabruinn View Post

I completely agree PC. I was thinking this last night as well. I've had 4 months with my 7150 and still blown away. I'm using 10k's movie mode settings. Have you upgraded to the latest firm ware?

No, I'm still on 1027...I really don't use the Smart Hub - so unless new firmware shows improvement in PQ, I'm staying.

10k's settings- I guess you also follow the ES8000 thread like me.....
post #2247 of 2849
I'm about to have what I'm calling a Jam Session with a few friends. We will be watching several bluray concerts and having some drinks. My system concise of the following: Yamaha RX-A2010, Paradigm monitor 9's V6, ADP-390's, ADP-190's, CC-290 and a PDR-100. My PS3 as a bluray player and a Samsung ES-7100 for my display. What better way to enjoy your equipment then to share(show off)with friends. While this may not be the ultimate system, it's mine and I love it. Concerts to be determined by my friends.
post #2248 of 2849
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Originally Posted by jtkane View Post

I am getting ready to switch providers for TV and internet (potentially), any recommendations one way or the other? I currently have Directv and Verizon for internet, but am open to changing.

I also have DirecTV, its excellent MPEG-4 compression-free HDTV and Channels 106 ESPN 3D and 107 3Net are good for 3D.
post #2249 of 2849
Not sure if I'm allowed to post this in here (please ignore if I'm not), but my 3 month old 60" ES7100 is for sale in Chicago if anyone is looking for a good deal on one that is in mint condition. It's been great, but found out that I'm going to be moving and don't have the space for it in my new place. All the info is in the classifieds section.
post #2250 of 2849
uclabruinn - Pac 12 South champs AND Pac 12 regular season champs! Good stuff. I am assuming you are a sports fan. I am a HUGE UCLA fan, borderline obsessive.
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