Official Samsung UNXXES7100 Thread. - Page 11

I did state in my initial post that I was unable to update the firmware online. The error message is "There are no new updates for you at the moment" . That is the only reason I resorted to USB firmware update attempts. It's still a mystery to me as to why I am stuck on firmware 1015.

It might take a couple off weeks for the newest firmware to get pushed to your TV. I generally get new firmware within 2 weeks.

Hi everyone, I have a UN46ES7100 and have noticed when there are brightly lit scenes (outdoors, sunlight, bright lights) that the image appears to degrade near the center of the image. It has appeared several times while watching Breaking Bad season 4 on DVD when there are outdoor scenes. Has anyone else noticed this? It seems when the image transitions to a darker scene it does not happen and it does not occurr all the time. I am running in standard mode, backlight 13, sharpeness 30, Warm 2, gamma -1, Eco mode on minimum backlight 5. I don't know whether its a setting, the DVD, or the player. Anyone have any insight or recommendation? Thanks

I have not seen this on a DVD but I have seen this on OTA broadcasts (both use MPEG2 for encoding). Do you see this on other DVDs? The only thing that might make a difference would be the 2 Noise Reduction filters (MPEG and Digital). You can find them under Picture Options. Unless you are seeing this everywhere, I would say this is an encoding problem specific to the DVD.

Into my third week with a 55ES7100. Replaces a 5 year old Sony 50A3000.

Really wanted to go with a ST50 but just to many cons for my environment (bright lighting is not one of the cons).

I have flash lighting in the corners and some clouding but with nothing to compare against I have no idea if I have a good, just okay, or a bad panel.

Used Spears & Munsil to do a quick and dirty calibration after about a 100 hours. About 140 hours on the set now. One can clean up the flash lighting and clouds but not get rid of them. The link that I posted earlier to the Samsung demo material has 2 files that will show how the flash lighting/clouds will appear in dark scenes. On some material it is not noticeable and on others very noticeable. In real world viewing it is noticeable in the corners with black vertical and/or horizontal bars are being dispalyed

Noticed today that Sony has reduced the pricing on the HX850. The delta on the 55" has been reduced to just $200.00 over the 55ES7100. The delta has historically been in the $400 - 500 range. It is tempting to consider a swap for the HX850.

Can you post a picture showing your flash lighting and clouding?

Sorry, can't post a picture.

I'm using the Flashlight #2 slide that can can be found here:

ES8000 thread page 4 post #115

The flashlights are noticeable on the bottom left and right. However sitting position also make a big difference. Even though I am sitting inside the "box", when sitting on the left, the left side of the screen is almost black while the the right side shows the flashlight effect starting at the bottom right of the screen as progressively weakens as you go up the screen. Sitting on the right side, I see the the exact opposite. The right side is now almost totally black while the left side shows a noticeable flashlight that progressively diminishes as you go up the stream.

I know viewing angles are generally bad on LCD TV's but I don't see the color shifts on real world material. I'm sitting a good 7.5' from the TV with the TV on a stand. I'm wondering if what is happening is when seated on one side at looking at the opposite side. I end up looking more into the side (and down) of the screen which exposes more of the LED(s) that when viewing from a more normal straight on viewing. Maybe this is why some people report less flash-lighting and clouding when the TV gets mounted on a wall. The angles have changed to be more favorable.

Don't worry too much about test patterns, what you are describing sounds par for the course for edge-lit LEDs. I wouldn't worry about it unless it bothers you under normal viewing conditions.

Only times it really bothers me when playing Blu-Ray movies. The top bar is pretty consistent at being black all the across. The bottom bar is black in the middle but the sides are distracting, especially the right side. The left side is not to bad.

Watching OTA is totally different. You got SD commercials that just have bars on the left and right side with very good black uniformity and HD commercials that the local station treats as SD (black bars all around). Overall pretty good black uniformity depending upon which side (left or right) that I'm seating on. The opposite vertical bar will be grayer with the bottom grayer still.

I have the same experience when watching BluRays, I think that is normal for the TV...so I don't think we can do much about it minus living with it or getting a different TV. I am using bias lighting however, which does lessen the effect of flash lighting, a cheap fix that might be worth looking into if everything else is great for you.

do you guys notice any vertical banding on your sets?

also, what made u guys buy the 7100 over the 6500?

I have not noticed any banding with my set (UN55ES7100 with US01 panel). I picked this over the 6 series due to the improved picture quality....almost all of the benefits of the 7500/8000 series without all of the bells and whistles that I did not need (camera, voice commands...etc).

Extremely pleased with mine - very little to zero clouding and the flash lighting in the corners has been greatly reduced. For some reason mounting it on the wall helped with both.

Hi all. I'm trying to get a set that has 3D and has the best color decoding in the $2k price range. So far I like the UN55ES7100F/UN55ES7150F. How accurate is the color decoder in the ES7000 series? Has anyone here used a Spyder4, or similar, display calibration device? Any articles that show information on the decoder? Does anyone know how to enter the service menu?

I'm coming from a 6 year old Westinghouse LVM-42w2. That set had one of the best decoders for its price range when it came out. But it's showing its age now.

how did you reduce the flashlighting in the corners? (other than mounting it on the wall)

Mounting on the wall as well as the TV breaking in over the last couple months seemed to reduce it greatly.

I have owned Samsung LEDs in the past and love their picture but have had problems with their reliability. This was mainly due to using cheap capacitors (an item that doesn't cost much to start with) which required me to call Samsung to get the problems covered under warranty.

Has Samsung fixed this chronic problem, has the product reliability improved? I am interested in the 55 inch es7100, so I hope the answer is yes.

Hi Johnny,

There was some extensive conversations around past capacitor problems that I read about in the ES8000 thread (at least that's where I think I read it). The consensus was that it is a problem of the past and is not a problem with the current generation.

Hi All,

Long time reader of various AVS forums and the wealth of knowledge has been a huge help in setting up my home theater. I currently have a 60 inch Panasonic GT50 on my wall but that will be coming down tomorrow and replaced with a 60 inch ES7100... The GT50 just didnt do for me but hopefully this one will.

I just wanted to say hey and i will be trying the various calibration settings that have been posted throughout.

Cheers!

Welcome, what didn't work for you with the GT50?

Hey Elmo,

I guess ive always been used to an LCD/LED picture so no matter what i did the picture just seemed flat... I also ran the slides for over 100 hours but IR became an issue pretty quickly once i started watching anything with a logo, it didnt stay around for too long but with 2 little ones that love the Disney channel i wouldnt be able to relax. Blacks were awsome, no buzzing issue as others have mentioned but just a picture that didnt do it for me... I found myself going back into my other room and thinking that my 2010 Samsung looked better so hopefully the ES7100 will suit me better.

Hi all,

I dont recall reading anything on the previous pages but did anybody else have to go out and purchase the M8 screws to mount their TV on the wall? I have a universal wall mount and whilst it came with various size scews (one of which fit the Panasonic GT50) none of them fit the Samsung. There seems to be some confusion as to what length. (I have 60 inch if that matters)

Thanks

Yep, I had an old mount and while I still had all the screws that came with it they were either too short or too long if I mounted it as close to the wall as possible. My recommendation buy several lengths (they are cheap) and some washers and you can dial in the depth as needed.

I had the same issue and used the bolts that were a bit too long - just put a couple washers on and it snugged up fine.

Thanks for the reply. I'm glad Samsing has fixed the problem. Of, course now She Who Must Be Obeyed, has declared we can't afford the TV.

Amazon is offering a $300 gift card on select Samsung TVs and the 7100 is one of them. I ordered it today and they've already shipped and the applied the $300 to the TV purchase. I had thought it would go in as a credit to my account for future purchases. I like this way better.

I tried to post a link but can't get it working. Just find the 557100 and you'll see the offer link. That link will show all the TVs available.

According to the manual, page 9, M8 screw(s) are to used. The manual also goes on to say that if using a non Samsung mount you are to us the Holder Ring(s). I'm assuming the Holder Rings are those four plastic round things in their own bag that are left over after you have installed the TV on the stand. I thought these round plastic things were to be used as feet for the stand but that is not the case. It would seem that an M8 screw, plus Holder Ring would alleviate the need for using washers.


A $300.00 gift card definitely improves the value rating for this set.

I did use the rings as well as 1 or 2 extra washers on each bolt - this was using a flush mount from Monoprice.

Concerning the gift card, it was applied to the TV purchase. So the set cost $1997 - $300.
EDIT: amazon has shipped me a $300 gift card and is charging me for it. While this is in line with the promotion of "buy a TV and get the card for free", why did they subtract $300 from the TV and charge for the card? Since I'm a regular customer of Amazon, it's no big deal, but it was slightly misleading.
Edited by Johnny Angell - 9/28/12 at 6:57am

My 60" is doing this as well. I'm on the 1020 firmware. The standby light stays on as it's supposed to and the Samsung light randomly comes on for some amount of time and turns off by itself. I called Crutchfield (where I purchased the set) and the guy there called Samsung a few times to see what they had to say. Samsung didn't give him a clear answer. One guy said that it's supposed to behave this way but he didn't know why. Another guy said it might be in store demo mode (it's not), and finally, a third guy said that it's to confirm that it is plugged into power. None of Samsung's responses make sense. It looks like there might be another firmware update available, so I'll give that a try.

Mine started doing this since the 1020 update. I've had the TV for a few months and never saw this problem. Since 1020, twice I have found the light on in the morning. Each night when I power everything down, I confirm the SAMSUNG log is not on. At some point throughout the night, it turns on by itself?? Very strange...oh well, hope the next update fixes this.