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post #691 of 2849
I have a the keyboard that came with my shiny new 7150 from Costco and I must that it is fair. Not sure I would recommend that one, it works but sometimes just laggy.
post #692 of 2849
I have a low cost wireless logitech keyboard and mouse that work just fine. Go back a few pages for the information.

I hate to say this but since this afternoon, when ever I go to this website, my Virus dectection software traps a virus that now seems to be here. Below is the information:

Trojan:JS/IframeRef (?)
Encyclopedia entry
Updated: Sep 11, 2012 | Published: Sep 22, 2010

Aliases

Trojan.JS.Redirector.ACI (BitDefender) HTML.Redirector (Ikarus)

Alert Level (?)
Severe

Antimalware protection details
Microsoft recommends that you download the latest definitions to get protected.
Detection last updated:
Definition: 1.141.3.0
Released: Nov 19, 2012 Detection initially created:
Definition: 1.91.385.0
Released: Sep 22, 2010
Just thought I would warn others.

The more I checked into this it may be on my PC Only. My other one doesn't seem to show the issue.
Sorry Hope I didn't freak any body out. My other PC seems ok but this one shows the virus any time I go to these forums. ???Weird cause it started tonight:eek:???
Edited by mgh26 - 11/19/12 at 8:54pm
post #693 of 2849
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Originally Posted by Danediz View Post

any pictures of your guys set up? thanks!
post #694 of 2849
post #695 of 2849
Had some fun tweaking the settings today. I used HCFR 3.0.0.0, an i1pro, and the AVS 709 disc with full screen patterns to adjust the display. This was a UN60ES7100 made September 2012.

Not a bad calibration, average gamma of 2.28, considering the bright settings 52~ FTL,

Next week I get my panel replaced because i have 8 dead pixels, i'm going to remeasure with the new panel and see how much off it is. Settings don't really transfer over, every panel is different and this will be the proof.

funj.jpg
post #696 of 2849
updated to 1024 last night (was not happy with PQ from 1023 - not the 1080P/60 issue) and no major issues from the update. Random video settings did reset, however once I restored my personal settings I'm very happy with the overall image.

I think I'm going to stay on the sideline moving forward on future firmware updates....
post #697 of 2849
I have the 55" model of this TV and so far am not quite satisfied with the 3D it produces. It seems there is more crosstalk than I would expect from a 2012 3D tv but that isn't the main issue. My main problem is that when I turn up judder reduction passed 5 on a 3D movie, fast moving scenes get extremely choppy and almost unwatchable. I like to watch CGI movies with both AMP settings turned all the way up but in 3D it actually takes away from the movie due to this problem. I'm considering returning this tv and gettting a LG LM8600 instead, since they are currently priced the same. Is there anything I can do to improve the 3D situation on this set?
post #698 of 2849
updated to 1024 last night (was not happy with PQ from 1023 - not the 1080P/60 issue) and no major issues from the update. Random video settings did reset, however once I restored my personal settings I'm very happy with the overall image.

I think I'm going to stay on the sideline moving forward on future firmware updates....

EAnglum- So do you have SyncPlus turned OFF or does it appear to be OK without creating the 1080P 60FPS issue with it on?
post #699 of 2849
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Originally Posted by mgh26 View Post

EAnglum- So do you have SyncPlus turned OFF or does it appear to be OK without creating the 1080P 60FPS issue with it on?

After I updated to 1024 I noticed SyncPlus was still disabled. When I enable SyncPlus (after 1024), the 1080P 60fps issue comes back. 1024 did nothing to solve this problem.
post #700 of 2849
Can CE Dimming be defeated on this set? I know it could on the old B series but not the C series.
If not on this one then what about on the 7500 or 8000?

And can the micro dimming and such be turned off if you don't like it?

thanks.

(is it really true that the hx850 sony has better black levels? even if micro dimming is off on both?)
post #701 of 2849
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Originally Posted by CeeJayII View Post

I have the 55" model of this TV and so far am not quite satisfied with the 3D it produces. It seems there is more crosstalk than I would expect from a 2012 3D tv but that isn't the main issue. My main problem is that when I turn up judder reduction passed 5 on a 3D movie, fast moving scenes get extremely choppy and almost unwatchable. I like to watch CGI movies with both AMP settings turned all the way up but in 3D it actually takes away from the movie due to this problem. I'm considering returning this tv and gettting a LG LM8600 instead, since they are currently priced the same. Is there anything I can do to improve the 3D situation on this set?

Have you tried blur 10 judder 0? The only way to get the correct cadence on 24p is AMP off or setting judder to 0. Like you've found, using judder reduction with some 3D content or sports with lots of motion seems to cause choppy/stuttering problems. Personally I keep AMP off and am happy with it that way.
post #702 of 2849
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Originally Posted by skibum5000 View Post

(is it really true that the hx850 sony has better black levels? even if micro dimming is off on both?)

yes (when comparing with UN46ES7100).

The Sony is a better set hands down; the Samsung looks much better on the wall though.
post #703 of 2849
I compared my 7100 to all other models within its range. I purchased the 7100, so you know what I my thoughts are.

850 vs 7100....not enough difference to justify the cost difference. If I wanted a Sony, it would have been the 929 (at the time), but that would have been an additional $1k.

To be honest, after customizing all of my settings, allowing the set to break in as well as a "massage" session to eliminate small amounts of clouding....I could not be happier with my set. I also have to say the 7100 looks damn good hanging on the wall.
post #704 of 2849
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Originally Posted by Danediz View Post

any pictures of your guys set up? thanks!

Not a great exposure showing picture quality, but you get the general idea of our setup.

Yes, I have two small boys...2.5 yrs and 7 months - which is why you may see some toys and Curious George on the TV. biggrin.gif
Edited by EAnglum - 11/21/12 at 6:29am
post #705 of 2849
I just picked a 60" up last night but need to go out and get different bolts to mount it... Unfortunately I only had ones that are too short or too long and not enough washers to make the long ones work. It's like torture to have this sitting in my house but not be able to watch it yet! I know there's been a number of posts on this throughout this thread but what's the easiest way to get rid of the "Soap Opera" effect and a solid baseline picture tune to start with that I can customize to my taste?
post #706 of 2849
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Originally Posted by Lisevolution View Post

I just picked a 60" up last night but need to go out and get different bolts to mount it... Unfortunately I only had ones that are too short or too long and not enough washers to make the long ones work. It's like torture to have this sitting in my house but not be able to watch it yet! I know there's been a number of posts on this throughout this thread but what's the easiest way to get rid of the "Soap Opera" effect and a solid baseline picture tune to start with that I can customize to my taste?

to eliminate the soap opera effect, set your Auto Motion Plus to "off" or "clear".

The rest is really personal taste - quite a few users have shared their settings. Enjoy your set!
post #707 of 2849
I'm on the fence to pull the trigger on a 46" model. The only real concern I have is horizontal viewing angle, saw a review stating it is quite narrow even for LED. I'm coming from a 42" NEC 480 Plasma in a pretty bright family room, so I like the bigger screen that will fit an old entertainment center and expect less reflection with the LED screen. Any real world reviewer input on side to side viewing would be greatly appreciated.

Second question, I can get the 7500 for $100 more. I do not care at all about the gesture controls etc, but have heard the 3D glasses are better and perhaps there are other improvements that would justify the difference?

Thanks!
Edited by Blue Oval - 11/21/12 at 8:12am
post #708 of 2849
AMP is great for sports though, but since they aren't in 3d I guess it won't be a problem for me. I am pretty torn on the best course of action. I also have tried blur 10, judder 0. It is decent in 3D but I like Judder 3 best.
post #709 of 2849
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Originally Posted by skibum5000 View Post

Can CE Dimming be defeated on this set? I know it could on the old B series but not the C series.
If not on this one then what about on the 7500 or 8000?
And can the micro dimming and such be turned off if you don't like it?
thanks.
(is it really true that the hx850 sony has better black levels? even if micro dimming is off on both?)

CE dimming cannot be disabled.

Micro dimming is disabled in movie mode, but on in all other modes.
post #710 of 2849
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Originally Posted by ELMO45 View Post

CE dimming cannot be disabled.
Micro dimming is disabled in movie mode, but on in all other modes.

thanks

So even in Movie mode, if it gets sent a largely pure black screen it will automatically dial down the backlight and there is 100% no way to stop it (even in the service menu) it because of CE dimming?
(same with the sony 850?? samsung es8000??)
post #711 of 2849
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Originally Posted by Blue Oval View Post

I'm on the fence to pull the trigger on a 46" model. The only real concern I have is horizontal viewing angle, saw a review stating it is quite narrow even for LED. I'm coming from a 42" NEC 480 Plasma in a pretty bright family room, so I like the bigger screen that will fit an old entertainment center and expect less reflection with the LED screen. Any real world reviewer input on side to side viewing would be greatly appreciated.
Second question, I can get the 7500 for $100 more. I do not care at all about the gesture controls etc, but have heard the 3D glasses are better and perhaps there are other improvements that would justify the difference?
Thanks!

If you have broad vewing angles then a LED is not for you.

As good as the sammy's are you really sacrifice picture quality going side to side. If you're far enough away from it (beyond 12 feet) it gets better.. Don't let the pictures on the forums fool you - its really profound if you're coming from a plasma.

A fantastic bargain for you would be the PNE6500 - has the same panel and quality of the E8000 series plasmas without all the frills and very cheap.

Everyone has their opinion, go to a store and go view one - but do this - get the controls, put it in movie mode with a warm color temperature and a DVD / Bluray you've watched and do your own test - don't just watch the screen with their test disc use something you're familiar with.
post #712 of 2849
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Originally Posted by maliclipse View Post

If you have broad vewing angles then a LED is not for you.
As good as the sammy's are you really sacrifice picture quality going side to side. If you're far enough away from it (beyond 12 feet) it gets better.. Don't let the pictures on the forums fool you - its really profound if you're coming from a plasma.
A fantastic bargain for you would be the PNE6500 - has the same panel and quality of the E8000 series plasmas without all the frills and very cheap.
Everyone has their opinion, go to a store and go view one - but do this - get the controls, put it in movie mode with a warm color temperature and a DVD / Bluray you've watched and do your own test - don't just watch the screen with their test disc use something you're familiar with.

Agreed. Viewing angle remains the single largest shortcoming of lcd technology.
post #713 of 2849
Would appreciate your opinions:

Last year we bought a UN55D6050. It developed several problems & the tech & Samsung have decided it needs to be replaced. Samsung started out being OK to work with but has turned out to be a hassle. Took a few weeeks to declare it for replacement, then another week to process it, then screwed up our case # so had to get that figured out, then decided to refund instead of replace, now told 3-4 weeks to process the refund. Not fun. East coast storm has caused some issues, though.

Even with the hassles, we are still considering another Samsung. Need to say with 55" due to wall space. With the price range & local availability (mainly Costco), we're looking at the UN55ES6150F & the UN55ES7150F.

We really don't care about the 3D, but might be willing to pay the $500 extra for the 7150 if it's worth it. I'm not tech enough to know all the electronics differences so would appreciate some input. I will say that there were some annoying things with the D6050 that I don't know whether they were caused by streaming or the TV: We don't watch sports but did notice some scenes where movement of things was not smooth. I've hardwired to get away from wireless before we plug in the new unit but was wondering if the 240 on the 7150 goes a long way towards resolving the motion issues on the 120, 6150.

Other than the Samsung, there's a Vizio 55" available but I've been told by local techs that Vizio service is really difficult to work with here.

Thanks for the assist.
post #714 of 2849
After having a vizio I'm not a fan (bought a E601 series when they came out and returned it back to costco for the 7100).

I'd go with the Samsung and if the money doesn't matter the 7150 is a better deal because it has a lot more processing power, better motion resolution, etc
post #715 of 2849
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Originally Posted by maliclipse View Post

After having a vizio I'm not a fan (bought a E601 series when they came out and returned it back to costco for the 7100).
I'd go with the Samsung and if the money doesn't matter the 7150 is a better deal because it has a lot more processing power, better motion resolution, etc


Your input's much appreciated. Thanks.

Further info from anyone on the xtra $500 would like wise be much appreciated.
post #716 of 2849
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Originally Posted by maliclipse View Post

After having a vizio I'm not a fan (bought a E601 series when they came out and returned it back to costco for the 7100).
I'd go with the Samsung and if the money doesn't matter the 7150 is a better deal because it has a lot more processing power, better motion resolution, etc

Actually, I believe 7100 and the 7150 are the exact same TV. The difference is the 7150 is sold by chains such as Costco and includes extras such as a keyboard. You have to step up to the 7500 to get a faster processor, webcam, etc.
post #717 of 2849
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Originally Posted by videoluvr View Post

Actually, I believe 7100 and the 7150 are the exact same TV. The difference is the 7150 is sold by chains such as Costco and includes extras such as a keyboard. You have to step up to the 7500 to get a faster processor, webcam, etc.

The dual core processor starts in the es7000 series as well as micro dimming and the 240hz refresh rate. You can always add a keyboard and webcam if you want them cheaper than the price difference.

Costco had the un60es7150 for 1950$ this morning. Stellar deal.
post #718 of 2849
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Originally Posted by maliclipse View Post

Had some fun tweaking the settings today. I used HCFR 3.0.0.0, an i1pro, and the AVS 709 disc with full screen patterns to adjust the display. This was a UN60ES7100 made September 2012.
Not a bad calibration, average gamma of 2.28, considering the bright settings 52~ FTL,
Next week I get my panel replaced because i have 8 dead pixels, i'm going to remeasure with the new panel and see how much off it is. Settings don't really transfer over, every panel is different and this will be the proof.
funj.jpg

How did you end up with only 441:1 contrast and 0.4 MLL?
post #719 of 2849
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Originally Posted by videoluvr View Post

Actually, I believe 7100 and the 7150 are the exact same TV. The difference is the 7150 is sold by chains such as Costco and includes extras such as a keyboard. You have to step up to the 7500 to get a faster processor, webcam, etc.

7100 delivers exact same picture quality as the 7500?
post #720 of 2849
almost....7500 has the next level up of micro dimming and a slightly higher refresh rate, other than that...they are basically the same in terms of PQ. Keep in mind, both are native 240hz panels though.

I personally did not see much of a difference when I compared them.

Here is Samsung's comparison chart.

http://www.samsung.com/us/module/2011_tv_spec_grids/led-print.html
Edited by EAnglum - 11/22/12 at 5:00pm
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