Official Samsung UNXXES7100 Thread. - Page 26

It won't really matter what LED you buy because your HTPC CMS will override the TVs.

You should look into disabling on your video card what the HTPC is sending to the samsung to blank out your CMS.

I don't remember what exactly it was but I'm sure if you post in the calibration forum what your issue is someone will tell you exactly where to go in your video card settings to send a raw tunable signal to the TV.

Hi all,

I picked up the 7100 about a week ago and set it up without any trouble, except for getting it connected to the network. It was late and I didn’t feel like messing with it that night and decided to figure it out the next day. Thankfully I found this thread first, as updating the firmware is probably the first thing I would have done.

I’m currently at 1020, which seems like a good place to be for now... Is there an auto-update feature that I need to worry about before configuring the network? It seems like the answer is no, but I want to make sure before going any further.

On another note, has anyone else had trouble getting their 7100 online? It tells me that it’s connected to the network but not the internet, which leads me to believe it’s a DNS issue. I’ve never had a problem getting any other device in the house to connect, but I haven’t spent too much time looking into it since I came across this thread either. The router is a Netgear WNDR4500 fwiw.

Thanks

First are you hooking it up with HDMI/DVI or VGA? You really do not want to hook it up with the latter because that is analog.

It is a shame that they don't let you access everything when in PC Mode, but their processing engines are apparently are hard-wired to process only 4:2:2 signals (and apparently this is the same with most mass market brands, although I think some of the large HDTV-sized NEC monitors have full processing in 4:4:4, but they are not mass marketedm they do have $1800 55" sets though with super calibration controls and you can basically even just tell it to use so and so gamma or colorspace and it automatically sets it, don't know if there are any catches, nobody ever reviews them....). But you can hook up a PC and simply not call it PC Mode and run it in 4:2:2 and get all of the controls back. So long as you only watch 4:2:2: or lower video (by far almost all video is 4:2:2 or less) and keep it full-sized and don't try to watch it on a little window on part of the screen it won't make any difference since as I said all those signals are 4:2:2 anyway so running them in non-PC mode at 4:2:2 to get full color controls doesn't really hurt anything (unless you were trying to watch them on a window on the desktop).

For desktop, games, windowed video, viewing photos, you'd probably want 4:4:4 though so the blue and red colors don't end up with only 960x540 resolution and get all smeary.
It does mean that you won't be able to adjust it to get a perfect picture in PC Mode though color-wise since you can't adjust the gamut (at the least, I forget, I hope it at least allows the 10pt gamma!) for all the non-color managed things like the desktop or games (although exact gamut matching for games probably isn't crazy critical). For photos, so long as you use a color-managed program and have profiled your screen and made the profile avail to the viewing programs it will handle it just fine though and you actually do best by just leaving the set in it's native gamut and whatnot anyway since it's not like the set has a fancy 14bit internal 3D LUT or anything like some fancy photo-editing computer monitors.

For some stupid reason NVidida refuses to put a 0-255 vs 16-235 signal toggle and they assume 16-235 for HDMI connections! Insane! They get so many complaints and lost business and refuse to add a simple toggle! But if start to install a driver, then stop, then go to the display_inf file and add some lines and then install the drivers they will send out 0-255 over HDMI. You may be getting it washed out because it is sending 16-235 over HDMI and the set in PC mode was expecting 0-255 (and for PC stuff you really do want 0-255 otherwise non-video stuff would all clip at worst, or you'd lose some shades and have it compressed a bit, at best). People have been getting on NVidia about this for years and for some insane reason they keep what should be a simple toggle, a pain of a hidden trick to get working right. If you design a custom video mode with the nividia control panel then it will also send 0-255 over that (but then the people who must have 16-235 and also need a custom video mode are screwed, so nobody understands who is running the place over at Nvidia).
Edited by skibum5000 - 11/24/12 at 2:02pm

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1339139/nvidia-0-255-hdmi-range/30

follow post #40 on the above link for instruction on how to get NVidia to send 0-255 PC levels over HDMI instead of 16-235.
And then set samsung set HDMI Black Level to Normal (0-255) (for samsung Low means 16-235])

I really want to give all of you a great big hug. I had the jittery screen / lines issue that has been so wonderfully documented in this thread. Like most of you, I swapped multiple cables, tried all 3 of the HDMI ports and eventually came to the conclusion that this issue was specific to 1080p/60fps. I was still awfully close to having a meltdown when I found the Syncplus solution described in this thread. I just can't tell you how relieved I am and how much I appreciate the community here on AVS.

As a bonus, I also now know what to do about my cloudy screen.

As a double-bonus, I have a couple of picture calibration configs to try out.

Quick request for 60-inch owners out there:

Would someone mind measuring the distance from the top of the tv to the mounting holes and the bottom to mounting holes?

I'm wanting to confirm if my in-stand mount will work with the 60-inch unit.

I'm on the fence about getting the 55" ES7100 or the HX850. I know you guys are a little biased possibly in the thread as you all have the Sammy but if anyone has seen both which one is a better purchase? I watch HD content 98% of the time and play a decent amount of PS3/Wii U games on it. It also lives in the basement with no windows so glare isn't really a factor. I also have a 7.1 surround system with HDMI switching. The ES7100 is $1600 and the Bravia is $1800 on Amazon atm. I do think I'll use the 3D features once in a blue moon but that isn't really important so it's not even one of my factors. I just want the best for my money. Thanks for any input.

from what i have read and heard it seems like the hx850 is a great tv, however also 200 more. I am in the same boat, but comparing the es7100(1550) to the hx750(1350). dont mean to post jack.

I own both the un46es7100 and kdl46hx850. 850 is a better set for a number of reasons: no bugs, better blacks, and most importantly for me, better motion. The hx850 looks like a plasma with frame interpolation off. I paid $350 more for the hx850 and would tell anyone on the fence to spend the money.

750 is probably on par with the 7100 although i have bot compare the two callubrated hands on.

Maglin

Sony HX 750 I would stay a way from it it is not in the same league as a 850 which excells in many areas

If winston compares both sets the 850 and Samsung then thats is the way to go.

This is a samsung forum not a sony forum having said that I wanted HX 850 because CNET gave it rave reviews calling it the LED of the the year. No mention of Samsung, however Consumer reports rates the samsung 7500 a little better than the Sony,. Sony is better if kids in the house as it is covered in gorilla glass.

I wanted to buy Sony but $2000 was a bit much I believe it is now reduced this week on sonystyle.com. I bought the Samsung 7100 55 inch and I am more than pleased with it, a little small when you are used to to a 60

Samsung 60 inch in a 7100 is about 800 more. My other set is a 60 inch is a Sony 3d and it has some flashlighting but to date the Samsung has not exhibited any of the common problems of edge lit tvs cloudyness or flashlighting.

I really do not believe you can go wrong with either set so its up to you to make an informed decision based on all the facts and your wants and needs in a tv... good shopping.

Many of the stores have longer return policies at this time of year if that assists you..
Edited by James T - 11/25/12 at 5:29am

On 12/7/2012 I will be expecting delivery of my first Samsung product, the 55" 7100.
I've already learned a lot in this forum so I kinda know what to expect, some good, some not so good, but nobody makes a perfect set.
A couple of questions I have that I don't remember reading about are : What type of panel does Samsung use and does it matter? Also, when cleaning the screen, do they recommend using a dampened microfiber cloth only?
Thanks for all the tips and suggestions, keep up the good work!

this tv is just a total nightmare LOL i fixed the 1080p issue i did a reset of the tv yesteray and now my region or something changed my samsung terms of service is in german and i cant find netflix and hulu now is there a way i can change it back to english/ america?

Do a factory reset at the service menu and when the TV boots back up it'll ask you what language you want - best to start over at this point.

man i totally ruined this set now i got a PINK hue after going into service menu and doing a reset anyone know where i can get the default settings for the service menu

Thank you and the others for commenting. I was expecting more "Go ES7100" posts being this is a Samy thread. I think I'm going to get the HX850 or a Vizio. I know 2 extremes. It just depends on when my TV cash gets here if the HX850 is still at least the price it is now. One of the best things is I have already sold my old 50" Samsung DLP for some of the cash to buy my new flat screen. Again thank you for your honest remarks.

I would not rule out the ES7100 until you have done a demo yourself. Its great to get opinions, but honestly, until you view the sets, you could be missing out.

shit ok i fixed the pink hue issue now back to my smart HUB issue this tv is the worst thing i ever purchased yea some issues are my fault but this 1080p 60 issue is just unacceptable that i gotta come on this site to get the answer and the tech is still coming out here tom. ok so i tried to set the lanaguage to eng and i stil get a german terms of service and i cant find hulu or netflix other then that the tv is working great thanks for everyones help =)

I think it matters in that ever since the C series some Samsung panels deliver a different shade from even vs. odd scanlines. A fair amount of C-series had that, tons of D-series had it and sadly looking around a lot of stores today I saw that a number of the 2012 ES and EH series have it, although it seems like not nearly as many as for the D-series. Man, I just hope my 7100 arrives clean of that mess. I saw two ES8000 today without it and one with it. Two 7100 free of it. Two 7500 with it and two 7500 without it. Interestingly in the C series the SQ panels had it by far the most often, perhaps even only SQ had it, back then at least, they also had the better black levels though, but even then not all SQ01 sets had it. For C series I never saw any top of the line model with SQ01 show it at all but I saw a lot of say C650 or 6000 or even 7000 with it with SQ01, but again not quite all SQ01 sets. For 2012 it seems to be less common but sadly I did see some that had it today. Man I hope I don't have to deal with endless returns to avoid that.

SONY sets use Samsung panels too for a lot of sets so I noticed the stripy problem on some 750 and 850s, scarily I saw it on 2/3rds of the 850 and a few of the 750s I looked at so I don't think you can avoid it by say going SONY instead.

For some reason I didn't see any sets with the stripey thing on display at an PC Richard stores but I did see it on some on display at Best Buy (it is NOT a Best Buy signal thing since my C650 was straight from Samsung and had it with any signal even on the built in test image in the set).

I also noticed that all of the 60" ES sets appeared to use a totally different panel than the 46" and 55". I could swear the 60" panel looked like Sharp almost. It seemed to have a bit better viewing angles but has that sort of dotted grid look that most Sharps have.

I also gave the plasmas another look since so many people just rave about them but.... sure the blacks are amazing and the motion and this and that but man that dithering is awful! Even worse on the Panasonic than on the Samsung. On the Panny I noticed it badly even on still parts of the image. On motion I noticed the nasty dancing dots on both sets quite a lot. I don't know, I don't think I would like having that at all. I gotta stick with LCD and wait on OLED I think.

One thing about the 7100 is that it has a full CMS and 10 pt WB. The SOny does not, not even the 850 (or 929 or 950 for that matter) so you can't dial in the gamut quite perfectly on the SONY.

Please press Fast forward >> button then press 2,8,9 and then press rewind button on your remote THIS WILL LET YOU SET THE TIME ZONE FOR SMART HUB IF CHANGED

im kind of lost i just updated to 1024 but reading this post what exactly is the 1080P/60 issue everone is talking about?

My sister just purchased this set. I'll be helping my brother-in-law install it. The TV will be hung on the wall, and the cables will be concealed in the wall cavity. I'm trying to find a good pick of the back panel so I can get a better idea on how long of cables I should get. I'm not sure 6ft will be enough.

Also, can the TV play MKV files on a flash drive or external hdd plugged into a USB port?

skibum 5000

How do you determine the panel you have in the set??

Is there some sort of code buried in the serial number?

In your opinion which is the better panel in the 7100 or do you think Samsung has changed the panel to a different model

I really do not know how long the 7100 set has been available I understood it was a later/newer model from Samsung

My set was manufactured October 2012 and touch wood no visible problems to date overall I rather impressed with the 55 inch

You can find your panel type by looking at the bar code sticker on the box the TV came in...I "think" its on the bar code/serial number sticker.

Yes it can play MKV file via the USB port,...

This was my question as well. So can I assume they use several (TN, VA, IPS and PLS) different panel types at random? Which panel type is the preferred?

Sweet, thank you!

Can it play back 1080p MKV's, or is it limited to 720p files?

I'm considering getting her a WDTV Live or equivalent type media streamer for Christmas, although that may be redundant depending on the capabilities of the set. Are there apps for the TV that can do Netflix or Amazon Prime streaming video?

(as you might have noticed I'm a smart TV n00b)

I assume that once I get online, I won't have to worry about a firmware auto-update? I would either need to confirm it or do it myself? I would like to stay at 1020 and not have to deal with the same headache that a lot of you have.

Can anyone confirm?

I have no problem with MKV rips of 1080 videos.

The set has Smart Hub apps for Netflix (1080, DD 5.1), Vudu, and recently, Amazon Instant along with many other streaming services.

I like to watch old movies so I also have a Roku box to fill in apps not available on the TV or my Blu Ray player, but if Netflix and Amazon Instant will fill your needs the set has them.