Originally Posted by JSpectre88
See, this is what I don't understand. If someone says they can see IR clearly on a slide, that means it's clearly seen on the TV also. The slides aren't magic, if IR shows up well on them, you can bet it's visible during normal content.
Yes, all the IR I have ever gotten can be seen on normal content, from regular viewing distance. It's better now that the set has aged some, but it's still pretty sensitive. "Lottery", may be excessive, because i don't know the extent of just what % of TV's suffer from IR, but there's some risk involved.
No one is saying your situation isn't real, but I'm quite sure there is plenty of temporary image retention that can only
be realistically noticed during watching slides.
And slides are, in fact, "magic." They hold a static, one-color background on the screen. Against that, the subtlest deviation from the solid color field would be noticeable.
A really good example would be to try to see the word "Menu" on the screen in normal content if you left the menus up for like 10 minutes. I doubt very much anyone with normal settings could see the word from normal viewing distances. But against a solid background, the idea that a very subtle outline of it wouldn't shock me. It would probably be gone pretty quickly, too, but it might be there.
(I should add that I've observed image retention on my TV only once and it was during calibration. I've actually tried "torture testing" it other times to try to get something to stick with no success. Even the calibration-related stuff was gone so quickly, I can't make much sense out of it. But that said, from the many comments here at AVS, especially regarding logos
, I am confident there is a difference between what most people can see against a slide vs. what they see in regular content. In fact, much of the image-retention commentary from people experiencing it says, "I can only see it against the slides." This of course raises the question, "Why are you watching slides then?" but that's for another day.)