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post #91 of 111
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Originally Posted by RobertR View Post

Why are you conflating watching a movie with "ruination" of one's evening? I'm talking about movie watching qua movie watching. Whether you enjoyed the popcorn you ate during the movie, or you thought the subwoofers were well calibrated, or you enjoyed the hamburgers you ate after the movie (part of one's "evening") is irrelevant. But the content of the movie IS relevant to enjoying the movie. For you to contend otherwise is absurd, as is your implication that the capacity to like something has no connection with the capacity to dislike something.

Please read my reply to Toe's response earlier in the thread. He worded exactly what I have been trying to say. I understand where you're coming from but my point is that I still have fun while watching movies. I usually don't get so "miffed" that I'm bothered enough the next day to post something like "???? was the worst movie EVER. I wish I could have those 2 hours of my life back!!!! Avoid at all costs" Don't tell me you have never seen a post like that. My entire participation in this thread is in response to comments like the one I just posted (and not a direct attack on you which is what you seem to be getting out of this). You've got to lighten up man. IMO, War of the Worlds is FAR from a masterpiece, but I'll be god-damned if I don't have fun watching the thing. Do you get my point now?????

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Originally Posted by Tulpa View Post

When I go into a movie, I expect a certain competence of craft, and when I don't see it, I get a bit miffed. Same with any sporting event.
No one is questioning that you can enjoy the experience, but in the case of sports and movies, there are still bad performances/issues that you can criticize. You can still be critical of the team's performance, just as you can be critical of how the movie came across.
When Leon Lett did that boneheaded move against Miami during the field goal that cost Dallas a win in '93, do you think that deserved no criticism whatsoever? True, they went on to win the SB, but in that moment, do you think it was reasonable to not say anything about it, as a fan of the C-Boys?

Let's not get it twisted. I am one of the craziest fans you'll ever meet when the game is in progress. I was talking to my mother on the phone when McCann just hit a dinger and I'm fairly sure she's going to have nightmares with the way that I reacted to it. Of course its a good thing our conversation was over before Grandy subsequently took the lead back as the string of cuss-words I put together was quite impressive. Point is, in-game, I'm as intense as they get. But 10 minutes after the game is over, I'm over it. Who are we playing tomorrow? I'm also critical of movies as we're watching them. In fact, its a regular occurrence in our house. Usually though, there is at least something that I find enjoyable about it and once its over, I got to bed. The next day I'm already planning our next movie. Its rare for me to have thoughts of how bad it was or how angry I am that I wasted my time. It just seems that some folks appear to be so angry when a movie fails to live up to potential (not pointing any fingers here guys, I assure you). For me, I just move on to the next one and hope for something better.
post #92 of 111
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Originally Posted by Gary McCoy View Post

The people commenting on movies in this forum are like a bunch of cranky old people. Nothing pleases them. Nothing is enough. Even those 50% of movies that are above average (note that phrase, it's a mathematical certainty) don't ever get a break, everything is just SO BAD that they can't be bothered to see it more than a few times and crank out 10+ pages of discussion.
Rank hipocrisy is what it is.

Perhaps these so called cranky old people see patterns from long experience and realize there's very little creative content in the current era. Perhaps they see the same product being tossed on a new audience and wonder why no one is calling it what it is. Just a thought.
post #93 of 111
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Originally Posted by ApolloCreed View Post

Point is, in-game, I'm as intense as they get. But 10 minutes after the game is over, I'm over it. Who are we playing tomorrow?

It just seems that some folks appear to be so angry when a movie fails to live up to potential (not pointing any fingers here guys, I assure you)

That's a good strategy to take, but you know as well as I do that there are plenty of sports guys out there that gripe for days, months, or even years. Remember stuff like Bill Buckner or Steve Bartman? There were a lot of people who certainly didn't get over their incidents right away.

We shouldn't feel that way, but we often do. Often our hearts are into it, just as they often are into movies. It isn't that some dislike all movies, but that they get really disappointed because they know the true potential of a good movie.

But back to my point, I really don't think AVS forums is any more critical than any other subject specific forum out there. Trust me, I've been on car forums where the debate over Camaros and Mustangs (or both vs Japanese cars) made nasty liberals vs conservatives arguments look downright civil, let alone our debates over which movie did or did not suck.


I really don't think the members here need to "learn to enjoy movies." I'm pretty sure we all do.
Edited by Tulpa - 6/13/12 at 7:57pm
post #94 of 111
As for pizza, I often eat chain pizza, and it does not shame me. Although I do find Papa John's sauce to be a bit too sweet. Pizza Hut has been a staple since childhood, but I'll get down with a Dominos or Little Caesar's.

We had two mom and pop-ish places around here that had excellent pizza. One was run by an Italian family, as in, the oldest one there couldn't speak English. The other place seemed like it was run by the mob. At first I thought they were just trying to make it look like an authentic Italy pizzeria, but then I noticed the fat guys in track suits always hanging around in the back. Both were awesome, but they both went out of business some time ago. frown.gif

I also find some small chains, like local to only a few states, can still produce great pizza. Jet's pizza which is in Michigan, Ohio, and a few others, is really good and very inexpensive. I've also had a friend who swore by Pontillo's out of Western NY (never been there, though.)
post #95 of 111
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I felt a craving earlier and left to try a new pizzaria in nearby Campbell, CA. It happens to be in the same shopping center (The Pruneyard) as my favorite Cinema (Camera 7) where I saw Prometheus . The name of the place was Patxi's and I give it a 9 out of 10 quality rating on the pizza, a classic Chicago "stuffed" pie with pepperoni, mushrooms, and black olives. The crust was perfect, the ingredients and cheese were perfect, the only flaw was they were a little heavy on the sauce which dripped off the slice.
post #96 of 111
I had a pizza revelation recently.

There are the low tier chain pizzas. Then there are (based on subjective assessment) the "better" and "best" chain pizzas (I like Pizza Nova and Pizza Hut better than Dominos and Pizza Pizza here). Then there are the more carefully made pizzas made by smaller chains, or just well known single pizza places known for great pizza (I like Pizzaiolo and Pizza Giggi in Toronto). Sometimes nothing hits the spot better than a slice from almost any one of these places depending on mood. And then there are the higher end plzza places, that work to make pizza transcendent...or at least vie for "best pizza" crown. We have a few places in Toronto competing for "best pizza" and most authentic Italian-style, the freshest ingredients, seared for only moments in super high heat wood ovens, crusts just slightly blistered, the freshest dough etc. Aficionados create dally line ups at these places, making it hard to even get in. In trying the pizza it hit me: It was good. Even great. But..it's like a wall had been hit. Pizza from one of the lower tier places can so perfectly satisfy a pizza craving at the right time that, frankly, it's hard to say this expensive pizza was a "better" experience. Once pizza is really good...and there are many really good pizzas... other good pizzas no matter how hard they try are more "different" than "better." I dunno. Just personal experience. Other pizza nuts may certainly feel otherwise. (Maybe this is a sort of "Big Mac" syndrome. Even high end chefs are known to go out for Mcdonalds sometimes because, as much as haute cuisine has going for it, nothing quite tastes like a Big Mac, and when you crave one only a Big Mac will do).
post #97 of 111
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Originally Posted by bcruiser View Post

My worst pizza experience? Pizza served in my high school cafeteria. My second worst pizza experience? Pizza served in my college cafeteria.
LOL.

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Originally Posted by Gary McCoy View Post

a classic Chicago "stuffed" pie with pepperoni, mushrooms, and black olives. The crust was perfect, the ingredients and cheese were perfect, the only flaw was they were a little heavy on the sauce which dripped off the slice.
Mmmmmm....I haven't had something like that in a long time.redface.gif
post #98 of 111
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

I had a pizza revelation recently.
There are the low tier chain pizzas. Then there are (based on subjective assessment) the "better" and "best" chain pizzas (I like Pizza Nova and Pizza Hut better than Dominos and Pizza Pizza here). Then there are the more carefully made pizzas made by smaller chains, or just well known single pizza places known for great pizza (I like Pizzaiolo and Pizza Giggi in Toronto). Sometimes nothing hits the spot better than a slice from almost any one of these places depending on mood. And then there are the higher end plzza places, that work to make pizza transcendent...or at least vie for "best pizza" crown. We have a few places in Toronto competing for "best pizza" and most authentic Italian-style, the freshest ingredients, seared for only moments in super high heat wood ovens, crusts just slightly blistered, the freshest dough etc. Aficionados create dally line ups at these places, making it hard to even get in. In trying the pizza it hit me: It was good. Even great. But..it's like a wall had been hit. Pizza from one of the lower tier places can so perfectly satisfy a pizza craving at the right time that, frankly, it's hard to say this expensive pizza was a "better" experience. Once pizza is really good...and there are many really good pizzas... other good pizzas no matter how hard they try are more "different" than "better." I dunno. Just personal experience. Other pizza nuts may certainly feel otherwise. (Maybe this is a sort of "Big Mac" syndrome. Even high end chefs are known to go out for Mcdonalds sometimes because, as much as haute cuisine has going for it, nothing quite tastes like a Big Mac, and when you crave one only a Big Mac will do).

I would agree with this. Pizza has gotten to a point that there are SO many really good options that the standout versions are not significantly better IMO. I think you nailed it when you said it is more about being different than better. One of my favorite pizzas to this day is the Mountain Pie from Beau Jo's which has a very thick outer crust where the cheese kind of melts in the middle.......perfect for dipping into honey once you are done with the main part of the slice cool.gif As great and unique as this is, I rarely feel the need to go out of my way to get it due to all the much closer alternatives that are nearly as good overall, but just "different".

I have the strange urge for pizza tonight for some reason.........I doubt this thread has anything to do with it. biggrin.gif
Edited by Toe - 6/14/12 at 7:24am
post #99 of 111
HEY!!! I’ve been on a 5-day marijuana binge with no access to a pizza and they don’t deliver in my area. ENOUGH WITH THE FRIGGIN’ PIZZA, ALREADY!!!
post #100 of 111
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

HEY!!! I’ve been on a 5-day marijuana binge with no access to a pizza and they don’t deliver in my area. ENOUGH WITH THE FRIGGIN’ PIZZA, ALREADY!!!
Lol biggrin.gif
post #101 of 111
I think it's now time order a few pizzas, grab some beers and discuss Prometheus - Josh, you start biggrin.gifwink.gif
post #102 of 111
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

HEY!!! I’ve been on a 5-day marijuana binge with no access to a pizza and they don’t deliver in my area. ENOUGH WITH THE FRIGGIN’ PIZZA, ALREADY!!!

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That sucks bro!
post #103 of 111
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

I think it's now time order a few pizzas, grab some beers and discuss Prometheus - Josh, you start biggrin.gifwink.gif

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post #104 of 111
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

I can honestly say I have NEVER had a BAD pizza.

I would like to send you to my old high school cafeteria on "Mexican Pizza*" day.

*Note: To my knowledge, other than the vaguely racist implication of its name, Mexican Pizza has nothing to do with Mexico or the Mexican People. It's essentially that round piece of cardboard in the package beneath a frozen microwave pizza, covered in a layer of vomit, and sprinkled with government-issue processed cheese-like substance. That's what it tasted like, anyway.

I will also second Rich's comments about Pizza Pizza. I got desperate one night and made the mistake of going there during my last trip to Toronto. While not inedible, it's not quite edible either.
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How did your poll turn out on Prometheus? Where is this poll located? Just curious, I have not seen the film yet myself.

The poll is here. I'll warn you that the post contains spoilers, at the arguments there are even more heated than here.
post #105 of 111
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post


The poll is here. I'll warn you that the post contains spoilers, at the arguments there are even more heated than here.

Maybe but the results are indisputable wink.gif
post #106 of 111
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

I would agree with this. Pizza has gotten to a point that there are SO many really good options that the standout versions are not significantly better IMO. I think you nailed it when you said it is more about being different than better. One of my favorite pizzas to this day is the Mountain Pie from Beau Jo's which has a very thick outer crust where the cheese kind of melts in the middle.......perfect for dipping into honey once you are done with the main part of the slice cool.gif As great and unique as this is, I rarely feel the need to go out of my way to get it due to all the much closer alternatives that are nearly as good overall, but just "different".
I have the strange urge for pizza tonight for some reason.........I doubt this thread has anything to do with it. biggrin.gif
The bottom line is this...pizza is like sex, when it's bad, it's still pretty good.
post #107 of 111
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

Maybe but the results are indisputable wink.gif

Yes, it's quite indisputable that most people have awful taste in movies. smile.gif
post #108 of 111
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Yes, it's quite indisputable that most people have awful taste in movies. smile.gif

That is hipster talk, sir!
post #109 of 111
Haven't you seen Josh's skinny jeans and three wolves shirts? tongue.gif
post #110 of 111
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Yes, it's quite indisputable that most people have awful taste in movies. smile.gif

well, I guess I'm one of those then!
post #111 of 111
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

The bottom line is this...pizza is like sex, when it's bad, it's still pretty good.

lmao I'll enjoy all my pizzas from now on biggrin.gif
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