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post #1231 of 1657
Very well. The likelihood of someone responding who has that same AVR/speaker combo are pretty unlikely. You are right to move it to a different thread though.
Good luck.
post #1232 of 1657
Hi everybody. I own an old Yammy RX-V663 and it looks like the HDMI board is failing or something because from time to time the video turns black and couple of seconds later it comes back on. So I'm tempted to jump in the Aventage line bandwagon and probably get a 2020 or a 2030 I'm not sure yet. Do you think this could be a great improvement regarding audio quality over the 663? Thanks.
post #1233 of 1657
I'm considering the purchase of a leftover 2020. On our Yamaha RX-V1500 I often adjust volume and tweak surround or subwoofer levels on the fly without anybody knowing I am doing so while we view movies (I use the front-panel display only).

With the 2020, will such adjustments always be shown on-screen, distracting others? The online manual is vague. If I do not press Display on the remote will my adjustments (hopefully) be shown on the 2020's front-panel display only?

Thank you!
post #1234 of 1657
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

No, the Yamaha is not able to separate the frequencies to the speakers and I dont believe that you will find an avr that does. If you want to biamp you would have to disable the crossovers in your speakers.

Actually Onkyo's Digital Crossover Technology does this and it's available in the following models: TX-NR5010, TX-NR3010, TX-NR1010, and TX-NR818.

The site says you can use it with either "bi-wire-capable speakers" or "channel divider speakers". I had never heard of the latter and wondered where you could get such things and upon the second reading I see their own D-509E speakers are listed as "compatible speakers."

IMO you ought to look at active speakers if this idea looks interesting. Active speakers take a low-level variable input, run it through an active crossover, then send signals specific to each driver to an amp dedicated to that driver.
Edited by User5910 - 10/27/13 at 5:40pm
post #1235 of 1657
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

Quick question about the 2020, can it set different crossover points for each speaker or is that a "global" setting?

Edit: Nevermind, I found it. It does.

How does this work on the 2020/3020? Is there an option to choose crossover frequency when you set speakers to "small"? The manual doesn't have any details on this.

I was a little disappointed to find that my RX-A1020 has only a single crossover setting for the subwoofer making it less than ideal if you have different size small front/center/surround speakers. In addition the crossover levels are not as fine as I'd like--I can choose from 40/60/80/90/100/110/120/160/200 but I think 70 would be the sweet spot for my setup. The entry-level Sony STR-DH540 can set the crossover for each speaker group plus it can do so in 10Hz increments from 40-200Hz.
Edited by User5910 - 10/27/13 at 2:18pm
post #1236 of 1657
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Originally Posted by User5910 View Post

How does this work on the 2020/3020? Is there an option to choose crossover frequency when you set speakers to "small"? The manual doesn't have any details on this.

On the 2020 you can set individual crossovers. So must be able to on the step up 3020.
post #1237 of 1657
Looks like the spotify connect is not coming to older receivers. So what is the best way to get spotify to my 3020? I got two android phones, ps3 and couple of computers with win7.
post #1238 of 1657
I just got the a2020 and am having a problem when connecting my PC to the avr hdmi. I have a NVidia 660ti and have the hdmi out going to the avr. I have the dvi output going to my pc monitor. I configured my pc monitor to be the primary display. The problem occurs when I turn off the tv and avr the pc display always defaults to the tv which results with no display on my pc monitor. The only way to get a display on my pc monitor is to turn on the tv (sharp 847u) or disconnect the hdmi output cable from the video card which will then default to the dvi output. When I had the rx-673 I had the same setup but did not have this problem. There has to be a simple setting that I am missing.
post #1239 of 1657
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Originally Posted by paesan View Post

The problem occurs when I turn off the tv and avr the pc display always defaults to the tv which results with no display on my pc monitor.


Shot in the dark... do you have HDMI control/passthrough/etc enabled?


Edited by Charles R - 11/2/13 at 4:37pm
post #1240 of 1657
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Originally Posted by User5910 View Post

What does ECO Mode do?

The manual for the RX-A1020 says
When the eco mode is enabled, you can reduce the unit's power consumption.

but says nothing about how it works or what happens aside from
When "ECO Mode" is set to "On", the front panel may become dark.

Has anybody found more details on this?

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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Good question. Im curious myself. It also says that you should disable it if listening at louder volumes. I just leave it Off.

I spoke to a Yamaha rep about this in addition to repeating back what the manual says, he indicated that it is really nothing more than a "volume limiter" which is why it should be disabled when listening at louder volume levels.
post #1241 of 1657
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post


Shot in the dark... do you have HDMI control/passthrough/etc enabled?

I had standby sync on, turned it off and that fixed it, thanks.
post #1242 of 1657
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post


I spoke to a Yamaha rep about this in addition to repeating back what the manual says, he indicated that it is really nothing more than a "volume limiter" which is why it should be disabled when listening at louder volume levels.
Thanks jd. smile.gif
post #1243 of 1657
Considering the A1020 and wanted to confirm a few things.

1. Planing on streaming audio via DNLA network using MediaMonkey on my PC. Any issues with this?

2. If I understand this correctly, party mode will enable me to play the same digital source (network DNLA) in the main zone and zone 2.

3. Is network audio playback gapless?


Thanks!!
post #1244 of 1657
Re: Remote and calibration mic part numbers for RX-A2020

Could someone look at the gear that came with their receiver and tell me the part numbers on them? I'm looking at getting an open box deal from Best Buy and the best buys come without these parts. Yamaha's support site lists parts only for the RX-A1000, RX-A2000, RX-A3000 without differentiating by model year. The third party NewRemoteControl has some different parts for the RX-A2010, but nothing newer.

It might be handy to put the answer to this question to the post at the top of the thread.
post #1245 of 1657
Does the 1020 have built-in wifi?
post #1246 of 1657
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Originally Posted by User5910 View Post

Re: Remote and calibration mic part numbers for RX-A2020

Could someone look at the gear that came with their receiver and tell me the part numbers on them? I'm looking at getting an open box deal from Best Buy and the best buys come without these parts. Yamaha's support site lists parts only for the RX-A1000, RX-A2000, RX-A3000 without differentiating by model year. The third party NewRemoteControl has some different parts for the RX-A2010, but nothing newer.

It might be handy to put the answer to this question to the post at the top of the thread.

I'd like to know this as well, I bought an open box RX-A2020 2 weeks ago from BB and they couldn't find the original remote or mic so they gave me a remote and mic from an RX-A1030. The 1030 remote seems to be working ok but I'd like to get the original if it's not too expensive. I also used the mic from the 1030 to do my YPAO calibration but I'm not sure if that mic is fully compatible or if the mic from the 2020 has something that the 1030 mic is missing.

I asked about that a few weeks ago and I don't think I got a response back in this thread so I'm not sure if anyone really knows.

On a good note, BB was originally asking $831 for the open box as it was listed as excellent with no parts missing but they gave $131 off due to the missing parts and I got the unit for $700 so I was a happy camper smile.gif
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Originally Posted by sbddvm View Post

Does the 1020 have built-in wifi?

No built in WIFI, just ethernet.
post #1247 of 1657

 

I am new here. This is my first post. I just bought a A3020 Yamaha.

 

My question is : If I sent in 6 analogue signals to A3020 via its 6 analogue inputs, and if I set my A3020 to Pure Direct or Straight, will there be any input conversion of signals from analogue to digital ?

post #1248 of 1657
If by the "6 analogue inputs" you mean the multichannel analogue input, then there will never be any conversion from analogue to digital (and back again). This also means that no DSP processing is done on this input, including YPAO and even basic things like bass management.

If you mean one of the stereo analogue inputs than the input will be converted to digital when using the Straight DSP mode. It's not clear what exactly happens when you use Pure Direct, it may also be converting the input to digital. Either way when you use Pure Direct mode no DSP processing is done, so no YPAO or bass management. With Straight you do get this processing.
post #1249 of 1657

 

Thank you for your reply.

 

The "6 analogue inputs" refers to multichannels analogue input.

 

Let me rephrase what you said and see if I fully understand you.

 

with Pure Direct : No ADC conversion on analogue input signals

 

with Straight : ADC conversion on analogue input signals

post #1250 of 1657

 

OR

 

You are saying,

 

If it is multichannel analogue inputs

 

Pure Direct : No ADC 

 

Straight: No ADC

 

for Stereo analgue inputs

 

Pure Direct: You are not sure

 

Straight: There is ADC

post #1251 of 1657
When you use the multichannel analogue input there will never be any conversion from analogue to digital.

When you use a stereo analogue input it is normally converted to digital for processing by the DSP. Pure Direct mode may or may not prevent conversion to digital of the stereo analogue inputs.

Pure Direct mode disables all DSP processing, but Yamaha doesn't actually say that Pure Direct mode creates a completely analogue path inside the receiver.
post #1252 of 1657

You've made it crystal clear that for A3020, signals from the multichannel inputs to the speaker can only be in an analogue path irrespectively. As such these multichannel analogue inputs will benefit the use of an external multichannel USB DAC. Thank you once again.

post #1253 of 1657
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

If by the "6 analogue inputs" you mean the multichannel analogue input, then there will never be any conversion from analogue to digital (and back again). This also means that no DSP processing is done on this input, including YPAO and even basic things like bass management.

If you mean one of the stereo analogue inputs than the input will be converted to digital when using the Straight DSP mode. It's not clear what exactly happens when you use Pure Direct, it may also be converting the input to digital. Either way when you use Pure Direct mode no DSP processing is done, so no YPAO or bass management. With Straight you do get this processing.

Ross: I have a 3020 which replaced a RXV-2700. The 2700 is now used to power the L&R speakers in a 9.2 setup. Audio cable from the L&R pre outs on the 3020 to the L&R analog inputs on the 2700. Usually set 2700 in straight mode. My question is do the YPAO results from the 3020 get transferred thru the audio single to the 2700 for use on the L&R speakers? Seems they do given that using DSPs on the 3020 effects the sound of the L&R speakers but would be nice to hear from someone more knowledgable. Thanks
post #1254 of 1657
Assuming you're not using the multichannel input of the RX-A3020 and not using Pure Direct mode on the RX-A3020, then YPAO will be applied to what's output from the RX-A3020's pre-outs. Make sure you ran YPAO in the configuration you have it now so the YPAO settings being applied match your actual configuration.

You might be better off running the RX-V2700 in Pure Direct mode or connecting your RX-A3020 its analogue multichannel input in order to bypass the RX-V2700's DSP. You don't want things like YPAO or bass management being applied twice. If you do reconfigure things this way you should run YPAO on the RX-A3020 again.
post #1255 of 1657
Any one seen their siriusxm app not update the current song title on their receiver's display, this seems to happen on mine now that I updated to the latest firmware?
post #1256 of 1657
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

Assuming you're not using the multichannel input of the RX-A3020 and not using Pure Direct mode on the RX-A3020, then YPAO will be applied to what's output from the RX-A3020's pre-outs. Make sure you ran YPAO in the configuration you have it now so the YPAO settings being applied match your actual configuration.

You might be better off running the RX-V2700 in Pure Direct mode or connecting your RX-A3020 its analogue multichannel input in order to bypass the RX-V2700's DSP. You don't want things like YPAO or bass management being applied twice. If you do reconfigure things this way you should run YPAO on the RX-A3020 again.

Thanks for the response. I should have been more specific, I am using the multichannel input on the 2700.
post #1257 of 1657

 

Hi dsinger

 

Why are you using the 2 receivers in this manner ? What is the advantage over using just A3020 ?

post #1258 of 1657
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Originally Posted by daviddlch View Post

Hi dsinger

Why are you using the 2 receivers in this manner ? What is the advantage over using just A3020 ?

Making the best use of the old 2700. It has 140 WPC for 8 ohm loads ( peak power draw`475 watts) and the speakers are nominally 6 ohm so have something like 185-200 WPC available for the L&R. The 3020 is 150 WPC @ 8ohms with a peak power draw of ~ 500 watts meaning ~ 55 watts average per channel in a 9.2 setup. The L&R draw the most watts in normal operation so the 2700 gives them a significant increase to draw on over the 3020 average (185 vs. 55) and leaves more watts available to the 7 remaining speakers powered by the 3020.
post #1259 of 1657
Edit: Let me think this over first...
Edited by User5910 - 11/8/13 at 10:48am
post #1260 of 1657
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Originally Posted by nordemoniac View Post

Just got a new TV decoder box, and I'm having major problems with this decoder and receiver combination.

The decoder seems to only offer "Dolby Digital Plus" and "Stereo" for the audio signal, and for the Dolby Digital-supported channels, they all have audio, but sometimes I have to switch channels back and forth a couple of times for it to work.

But on some channels (SD ones) when I switch, the RXA's LCD says "analog", and there's no audio, no matter what I do.

Why is this? Anyone else seen something similar. It's almost like the TV decoder is to fast when switching audio decoding methods...

I'm so confused! I've never experienced any problems like this with my Yamaha.

Fixed it!!!

HDMI Control - OFF!

HAH!
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