Originally Posted by SleepyKat
I reported to Yamaha and Oppo. I think you should do the same. The more people complain about this, the better chances we have to have a fix.
I reported it to Opp, and this is what they said:
Based on our own testing with a Yamaha RX-A820 these errors are related to the firmware in the Yamaha. We had bought one of these receivers for compatibility testing and initially had no issues with the player and the receiver with the 1.22 Firmware. Once we upgraded the firmware to the 1.64 release we experience similar errors.
You will want to connect HDMI 1 direct to the television for video and HDMI 2 direct to the receiver for audio. This will resolve your errors.
In the future these issues may be resolved through Yamaha firmware, though it may be possible that we resolve it in our own firmware by compensating for the error introduced in Yamaha's firmware.
My problem is that until 2 weeks ago, I had a Sony DA2400ES receiver which did not have pass-through of 3D signals on its HDMI ports; so I had already tried using the configuration that Oppo proposes above (HDMI 1 to the TV, HDMI 2 to the receiver). But then there was a triangle of HDMI connections Oppo => receiver / Oppo => Tv / receiver <=> Tv, and the HDMI CEC signals were fighting each other, so when I turned on the Oppo, the Tv would select the signal on the Oppo's HDMI 1, and then the receiver would select the signal on the Oppo's HDMI 2, which told the Tv to select the receiver's HDMI output, and thus the less good video signal on the Oppo's HDMI 2 was being routed to the Tv. Every time I stopped and restarted playing, the Tv & receiver were selecting all the wrong inputs. I tried disabling HDMI CEC on the Oppo's HDMI 2 which meant I could control the Oppo from the Tv's remote, but then receiver had to have its channel selected manually, which then told the Tv to select its HDMI output, etc. I also tried setting the Oppo's HDMI CEC to "limited", but that did not give me the control that I expect. For me, the only solution was to totally disable HDMI CEC on everything, and then I had to manually mess around with all three device's remote controls (in a certain exact sequence) to set things up. This was a total PITA, and my partner could not understand it at all! - I need to have one button control from one remote.
So I decided to replace the Sony receiver, and I bought the Yamaha in the expectation that it would solve the 3D pass-through issue, and the HDMI CEC issue. - Which it does. But now there is this new issue with negotiating the audio format. And so again I have to manually mess around with the three remote controls (in a certain exact sequence) to set things up, and it is still not one button control from one remote. So buying the new Yamaha does NOT solve anything for me at all. Not even in the configuration that Oppo proposes...
This means that for me the Yamaha is not fit for purpose, and I shall have to return it to the dealer; and I expect he will be highly resistant to taking it back; particularly since the unit is not physically broken, and Yamaha are not saying (nor Oppo) whether the firmware issue is likely to be resolved, or when.
What do you think? Has Yamaha acknowledged in any way that they are aware of the issue, do they have a track record of taking such issues seriously, and are the likely to fix this one, and how soon, etc. Otherwise, I would appreciate any arguments to help me convince the Yamaha dealer to take the unit back.
Furthermore when I do take the Yamaha back, I want to be absolutely sure that whatever other receiver that I buy instead, shall not have the same, or other, interworking issues with the Oppo. Therefore I would appreciate any recommendations on which receiver, one that has been actually tested, you suggest I should buy: one that a) supports 3D pass-through with the Oppo, b) supports full HDMI one button CEC with the Oppo, c) supports proper audio and video format negotiation with the Oppo, d) sounds as good as (or better than) the Yamaha, and e) is not vastly more expensive than the Yamaha.