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post #571 of 1670
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Originally Posted by benw07 View Post

Anyone figured out how to have a video source on Tv, but with music playing through speakers (airplay, radio etc). i.e. choosing a separate input for video and separate input for audio? Should be possible, but dont see how this can be done on Yamaha's settings. I have the A-2020.

On recent models this is not as simple as it used to be, but there are solutions. When you want audio from the radio tuner, USB or a network source, you can set Video Out in the Input Menu (p. 104 in the manual).
post #572 of 1670
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Originally Posted by Ikea Monkey View Post

I was hoping someone could help me with a frustrating problem. I have a new RX-A1020 and have connected it to my home network. I have no problems upgrading microcode or controlling the receiver with a browser, so I know my network connectivity is ok. However, when I go to yradio.vtuner.com and enter the MACADDR, I get the error message "The ID # you entered was not found. Please make sure that you have entered it correctly." I know I am specifying the correct MACADDR and I have also verified that there is no issues with my router. Can anyone please offer suggestions? Thanks.

TRYING TO CONNECT TO NET RADIO

I have exactly the same problem with yradio.vtuner. (Using : or - or nothing between the MAC numbers doesn't help).

I am connecting via a wireless WiFi N adapter (ioGear), which was quite difficult to set up with my Mac computer but ioGear provided detailed directions. The Yamaha gives me a MAC address but, as Ikea Monkey found, yradio.vtuner.com won't accept it ("The ID # you entered was not found"). That website also asks for e-mail address and password; it won't accept the ones I used for my Yamaha registration but offers no way to Register or tell you what password you are supposed to use. The yradio.vtuner.com site has no support or useful help functions.

Has anyone been successfully able to access Net Radio with these Yamahas?
post #573 of 1670
You don't need to register your receiver's MAC address at the vTuner website to use the net radio functionality. I never bothered. You can browse the list of radio stations using the receiver itself. You only need to register your MAC address if you want to manage your bookmarks from your PC and add Internet radio stations that aren't already on vTuner's lists.

I beleive you need to have used the net radio successfully at least once before the vTuner site knows your MAC address, so if you haven't gotten it to work yet you'll need to fix that first.
post #574 of 1670
Anyone get a Verizon FIOS remote to work the RX-A1020? I tried all the codes on the FIOS remote but none completely control the A1020. Most codes turn off the A1020 but none turn it back on.

And the code for the A1020 remote to control the FIOS cable box doesn't work. My FIOS remote may be old. Are there any codes I can try for either remote?

JC
post #575 of 1670
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

You don't need to register your receiver's MAC address at the vTuner website to use the net radio functionality. I never bothered. You can browse the list of radio stations using the receiver itself. You only need to register your MAC address if you want to manage your bookmarks from your PC and add Internet radio stations that aren't already on vTuner's lists.

I beleive you need to have used the net radio successfully at least once before the vTuner site knows your MAC address, so if you haven't gotten it to work yet you'll need to fix that first.

Many thanks, Ross. If I get the net connection fixed, however, how do I "use the net radio successfully at least once"? What steps to take to accomplish this?
post #576 of 1670
Put the NET button the remote until it says NET RADIO on the front and then browse through the categorized list of stations and select one. Just getting the list of stations is probably all you need for the vTuner site to know your MAC address since that's where it comes from.
post #577 of 1670
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Originally Posted by SARHENTO View Post

First thing you should find out is the firmware version. The latest is 1.41

Update first before you do YPAO. You will get a more accurate result. Whatever tweaking you want to do after running YPAO, never change the default for DYNAMIC RANGE which is MAXIMUM. If you change it, it will sound awfull.


Update: Got the unit in today and it is version 1.41. I calibrated and Wow the sound was so bright compare to my Onkyo. I still have alot of reading to do , already impressed with none tweaking at this time. The problem that I have is my 2nd subwoofer when I turn off the receiver it give a loud hum , then I turn it back on then It stopped. So, I will try to do some more research on that. I never had any of that hum before. Alright, let' me start reading. Thanks.
post #578 of 1670
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Originally Posted by jvinhj240 View Post

Update: Got the unit in today and it is version 1.41. I calibrated and Wow the sound was so bright compare to my Onkyo. I still have alot of reading to do , already impressed with none tweaking at this time. The problem that I have is my 2nd subwoofer when I turn off the receiver it give a loud hum , then I turn it back on then It stopped. So, I will try to do some more research on that. I never had any of that hum before. Alright, let' me start reading. Thanks.

Congrats. You got yourself a great receiver. Did you do an 8-position calibration? Your YPAO might have defaulted to EQ Natural. Try switching to FLAT and FRONT to see what you prefer.
post #579 of 1670
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Originally Posted by SARHENTO View Post

Congrats. You got yourself a great receiver. Did you do an 8-position calibration? Your YPAO might have defaulted to EQ Natural. Try switching to FLAT and FRONT to see what you prefer.

I have not done 8 position yet. By the way, I have all speaker running separate amps. Do I need to do different settings? Yah, default is Flat.
Edited by jvinhj240 - 4/3/13 at 6:10pm
post #580 of 1670
I have a similar setup - speakers powered by separate amps. No you don't have to do anything different.
post #581 of 1670
I have a question on tweaking YPAO results. When I run it, it says all my speakers are "large". Well maybe I agree for the front speakers, but definitely not the center, and probably not the rear speakers. Ideally I would like to set them all to "small" with a crossover to the subwoofer around 40-60Hz. Then I would like to rerun YPAO based on that config, since it seems the YPAO results would change based on the speaker crossover points.

But I can't figure out a way to do this. When I change the speaker sizes after a YPAO run, and then rerun YPAO, it changes back to all large speakers. Any idea how to do this?
post #582 of 1670
I believe when you rerun YPAO it will configure your speakers according to its calculation regardless of your manual tweak. If it chose as LARGE I believe it wll always choose that way every time you AUTO SETUP.

Please post if you found a way , I too am interested.
post #583 of 1670
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Originally Posted by powertecsys View Post

... When I change the speaker sizes after a YPAO run, and then rerun YPAO, it changes back to all large speakers. Any idea how to do this?

YPAO measures each speaker independently over its full range (i.e. it's not measuring the result of the speaker/sub combination). YPAO ignores the small/large setting when you run it, but it's OK to change it afterwards.
post #584 of 1670
I listen to music late at night so I need to play at low volume but still want strong bass. Can anyone comment on the Yamaha's loudness compensation?
Thanks.
post #585 of 1670
Go to:
SETUP MENU, DYNAMIC RANGE.
Experiment between choices. I leave mine at MAXIMUM (default). To me it gives the most pleasing bass.

OPTIONS MENU, ADAPTIVE DRC.
Toggle between ON and OFF

My preference here is OFF.
post #586 of 1670
Do you guys think the step up from the A820 to the A1020 is worth it? The connections appear the same for the most part, but I'm curious how much improvement you get with the Symmetrical Amp Layout, Dual Heat Sink and Center Mount Transformer. The 820 is being marked down now, but I'm trying to decide whether I should hold out for the 1020. Thanks.
post #587 of 1670
The connections on the 1020 are quite a bit different. It has support for S-Video inputs, multi-channel analog inputs, and a phono input.
post #588 of 1670
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Originally Posted by oryan_dunn View Post

The connections on the 1020 are quite a bit different. It has support for S-Video inputs, multi-channel analog inputs, and a phono input.

Thanks for the info. Personally I have no need for any of those as I'm pretty much all HDMI these days, but I did notice the 1020 does have an optical audio output, which could come in handy. I'm more interested in learning how the upgraded amps and heat sinks effect the overall performance.
post #589 of 1670
I doubt you'll hear a difference.
post #590 of 1670
Is there any button combination on the remote control for a RX-A30320 to generate the discrete power on and power off IR codes? I have several URC-MX500 remotes that I use for all my universal remote controls. But I need the discrete power on/off codes for macros for the MX-500. I have read that some older Yamaha receiver's remote controls had secret button combos that could generate advanced function codes.

Previously, I have used a URC-9800 and Radio Shack 15-2116 which can generate all the advanced codes for a device, if the base device is preprogrammed in to it. I then have used these to program my MX-500. However, it looks like Yamaha changed its remote codes in the past few years, so these old remotes can not operate the Yamaha (except by learning, which doesn't help here). So is there another cheap universal remote that can generate Yamaha advanced codes, such as discrete on/off, so I can then use that to program my MX500. I don't want to spend a whole lot of money here, because the Yamaha remote already has buttons for discrete input selection. So all I need is codes for discrete on/off.
post #591 of 1670
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Originally Posted by toddtas View Post

I listen to music late at night so I need to play at low volume but still want strong bass. Can anyone comment on the Yamaha's loudness compensation?
Thanks.

I am running a 2.0 (still choosing a sub) and find that bass at lower volumes is lacking. I am listening to music (not movies)

I really hope a sub will improve this but do worry that that it may suffer the same fate.

What sub are you running?
post #592 of 1670
I have Yamaha RX-A2020 and a few questions.

1. After I have run YPAO where can I see EQ results? Now I only find Configuration, Distance, Level and Parametriq EQ.. but in EQ there is only: Manual, YPAO:Flat, YPAO:Front, YPAO:Natural, Through. I can`t see what kind of changes YPAO has done. How can I see it?

2. This is almost the same issue. If I would like to set my own EQ settings where can I do that? Haven`t find any EQ stuff from anywhere.. except that flat, front, natura ect..


If I have understood correctly I know that after YPAO has done its thing I cannot change EQ settings. But I can check them from somewhere and write it down. After that I can manually use them and make my own changes. Right?

Help would be highly appreciated!
post #593 of 1670
To see YPAO RESULTS, just highlight /select any of the items you enumerated in your post.

If you want to make some changes, you can do so also. With regards parametric eq, you need to copy to manual before you can make changes. Example: FLAT to MANUAL , FRONT to MANUAL etc.
post #594 of 1670
I have the RX-A820 and I have it as the center point of my xfinity box, Samsung 55ES7500, and my Samsung blue-ray via Hdmi. All and all I am quiet with happy the system and its operation, but I do have two minor problems that I am wondering if anyone has found a remedy for.

1)when I first turn system on everything including sounds is normal, but then it switches to AV4 and I lose all sound until I take yamaha remote and key the onscreen info button and everything returns to normal with sound and volume

2) speaker system including subwoofer works and sound great with blue ray, tv and fm radio station as long as everything in the system is on. But when I turn tv off and try to listen to FM stereo radio via the receiver, the subwoofer turns off and the only sound I get is from the main speaker, losing all base

Any suggestions on these two problems would be appreciated, I am thinking it is a ANYNET+ Hdmi problem, I have tv, receiver, blueray with Hdmi control enabled and also ARC.
post #595 of 1670
1) It's going to switch audio inputs unless you turn off HDMI control. You can specify a different audio input instead of AV4 (see TV Audio Input, page 93 in the manual), but it will still switch if HDMI control is on.

2) Not sure about this, but if you have front speakers set as Small the subwoofer should be used for stereo sources. If it's not a speaker setup thing, see if turning off HDMI control (and Anynet+ on the TV) has any effect.

HDMI control sounds like a good idea at first, but the interoperability with equipment from different manufacturers is poor. Usually you're better off without it, and get a universal remote if you want one button to turn everything on.
post #596 of 1670
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Originally Posted by Jupazuba View Post

If I have understood correctly I know that after YPAO has done its thing I cannot change EQ settings. But I can check them from somewhere and write it down. After that I can manually use them and make my own changes.

After you set Parametric EQ to Manual (instead of YPAO:Flat etc.) you can make changes. And as just mentioned you can copy the YPAO results as a starting point for manual adjustments (look for PEQ Data Copy in the menu).

But making changes without really knowing the effect they are having may not improve things. If you want to visualize what changes to the filters do (especially the Q factor), you could try using the PEQedit program (screenshot, download link).

PEQedit was written for older models so it won't directly control your 2020, but it's still useful to play with it. And if you use Receiver Manager to save all your settings as a file on your PC, PEQedit can read that file and display all the PEQ filters that YPAO set.

And if you just want to make basic changes (e.g. make it sound a little brighter), it can be a lot easier just to try the tone controls (bass and treble) than playing with PEQ settings.
post #597 of 1670
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Originally Posted by SARHENTO View Post

To see YPAO RESULTS, just highlight /select any of the items you enumerated in your post.

If you want to make some changes, you can do so also. With regards parametric eq, you need to copy to manual before you can make changes. Example: FLAT to MANUAL , FRONT to MANUAL etc.

I got it now. Thanks a lot!

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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

After you set Parametric EQ to Manual (instead of YPAO:Flat etc.) you can make changes. And as just mentioned you can copy the YPAO results as a starting point for manual adjustments (look for PEQ Data Copy in the menu).

But making changes without really knowing the effect they are having may not improve things. If you want to visualize what changes to the filters do (especially the Q factor), you could try using the PEQedit program (screenshot, download link).

PEQedit was written for older models so it won't directly control your 2020, but it's still useful to play with it. And if you use Receiver Manager to save all your settings as a file on your PC, PEQedit can read that file and display all the PEQ filters that YPAO set.

And if you just want to make basic changes (e.g. make it sound a little brighter), it can be a lot easier just to try the tone controls (bass and treble) than playing with PEQ settings.

Great and usefull information. Thanks for the download link. I`ll test that program. This is a hobby so I don`t mind trying several different things and testing different settings. I`m a newbie here but I already find this is a great forum. Thanks guys!
post #598 of 1670
How does the subwoofer crossover behave in the RX-A3020? I've searched this thread, the net and combed through the manual and I cannot find an answer that explains how exactly the subwoofer crossover is defined and how the Extra Bass function works on the RX-A3020.

There is only a vague reference to it in the manual on page 57 with regards to setting the speaker sizes. On page 57, the manual states: "Size - Size of each speaker (cross-over frequency of the subwoofer)".


My questions:

1) Is the sub crossover defined by the crossover point of the front speakers specifically? Or is the crossover set at the highest point of all speakers? Say I want my front speakers set to small and cut off 40 Hz, my center channel set to small and cut off at 60 Hz and my surrounds set to small and cut off at 80 Hz. Is the sub crossover 40 Hz, 60 Hz or 80 Hz?

2) How would I set the sub crossover at 80 Hz with my front speakers set to small and cut off at 40 Hz and the rest of my speakers cut off at 60Hz?


How does Exra Bass work? Take the following scenarios:

1) If I have the front speakers set to large, Extra Bass enabled and surround speakers set to Small and cut off at 80 Hz, is the sub crossover 80 Hz or defined another way?

2) If I have all speakers set to large with Extra Bass enabled, then what is the sub crossover?
post #599 of 1670
Take a look at this answer I posted in another thread (link), and also see the post just above for the questions (they are very similar to yours).

It's for a different model (the Z11) but I think everything still applies to the 3020. Note that the Z11 setting called Bass Out = Front & SWFR is the same as enabling Extra Bass on the 3020.
post #600 of 1670
I think the sub crossover is determined or based on the crossover of the other speakers. For example if your front speakers have 80Hz, then that too is the cross over for your sub. Any frequency below that value is channelled to your sub.

Because your speakers have different crossovers - fronts, surrounds, and back surrounds, it makes sense that sub manufacturers such as SVS recommend to set the crossovers in your sub to the MAX settings . That way all the different crossovers are accommodated.
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