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post #31 of 70
@OvationSupport

Is this system aimed primarily at the North American market or can it be adapted for UK use (ie with Sky HD as part of a system).

Does it also work in an activity fashion - similar to the Harmony remotes ie: one button set ups?
post #32 of 70
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Originally Posted by OvationSupport View Post

However, can you elaborate on the "...the media Capabilities" you seek? Perhaps there might be something useful OHMS can offer.
that ones simple... for reasons unknown, or maybe just wishful thinking, I was thinking more along the lines of extender... the media capabilities question really doesn't apply to a HTPC based system...
post #33 of 70
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Originally Posted by steelman1991 View Post

@OvationSupport
Does it also work in an activity fashion - similar to the Harmony remotes ie: one button set ups?
it should... there is no reason why it couldn't...
and more to the point, since it has 2 way communication with all the devices, and a bit more processing power than your average harmony, it should also be able to do much more...
ie, on the simple side of things, it could just ask the AVR if it is in the proper state to do activity X, instead of wasting everyone's time by re-setting it up...
or on a slightly more complicated side, since it knows what is going on, it should be able to be somewhat 'predictive' and automatically do Y when situation Z occurs... ie turn on the lights if you are using the a projector and the movie is paused... (note, I have no clue if they support lighting yet, but it would be somewhat trivial now that they got their 'base' down for them to add insteon/UPB/Zwave support in the future, if they decide to go down that road...)

you can have all sorts of fun when you have devices the support 2-way communications and a controller with some brains in it...
post #34 of 70
How about a DRM EPG and DVR/PVR solution?
post #35 of 70
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Originally Posted by Somewhatlost View Post

it should... there is no reason why it couldn't...
and more to the point, since it has 2 way communication with all the devices, and a bit more processing power than your average harmony, it should also be able to do much more...
ie, on the simple side of things, it could just ask the AVR if it is in the proper state to do activity X, instead of wasting everyone's time by re-setting it up...
or on a slightly more complicated side, since it knows what is going on, it should be able to be somewhat 'predictive' and automatically do Y when situation Z occurs... ie turn on the lights if you are using the a projector and the movie is paused... (note, I have no clue if they support lighting yet, but it would be somewhat trivial now that they got their 'base' down for them to add insteon/UPB/Zwave support in the future, if they decide to go down that road...)
you can have all sorts of fun when you have devices the support 2-way communications and a controller with some brains in it...
Thanks for that - maybe something I will be interested in - dependant on the SkyHD question.
post #36 of 70
Having problems posting. See answers below in next post. frown.gif
Edited by OvationSupport - 6/26/12 at 12:40pm
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post #39 of 70
Sorry for the delay in responding. Please see my answers below.
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Originally Posted by steelman1991 View Post

@OvationSupport
Is this system aimed primarily at the North American market or can it be adapted for UK use (ie with Sky HD as part of a system).
Does it also work in an activity fashion - similar to the Harmony remotes ie: one button set ups?
Primarily aimed at North America but should work fine with devices from the UK or other countries. However, I did a cursory search and discovered the The Sky+ HD Digibox (V.1) does have an rs-232 serial port for control. We would have to develop a driver for this device, but that is definitely possible. I'll see if i can obtain the specifications for that device.

EDIT: Tthe Sky HD's box rs-232 cannot be used for control, but the OHMS infrared (IR) module can easily control this set top box (see post below).
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Originally Posted by Somewhatlost View Post

that ones simple... for reasons unknown, or maybe just wishful thinking, I was thinking more along the lines of extender... the media capabilities question really doesn't apply to a HTPC based system...
Yes the OHMS system makes provisions for "extenders" albeit OHMS extenders, known as Tiny MaCE. This setup requires external storage (or an OPENS) as the system was designed to share media from a central repository not from another player. For instance, in my house I have 4 MaCE devices (1 MaCE, 2 tiny MaCE, 1 MaCE DVR) all with access to one central OPENS server.

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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

How about a DRM EPG and DVR/PVR solution?
The MaCE DVR records off-air and from external sources (principally a DirecTV tuner). As a result all the recordings are DRM free. The EPG is provided by BeyondTV and requires no recurring costs. Our current version records off air in HD and external sources in SD. The production version will do HD for both.

EDIT: The MaCE DVR can now record in HD from off air AND from DirectTV or cable set top boxes using an HD PVR-2.

One benefit of the OHMS system and a MaCE DVR is record once watch anywhere convenience. In addition, most recordings made by the MaCE DVR are commercial free and are cataloged for category browsing from the remote, just like for movies. Currently you can browse recordings by: Alphabetical order, most recently recorded, series, channel, genre and year.

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Originally Posted by steelman1991 View Post

Thanks for that - maybe something I will be interested in - dependant on the SkyHD question.
If the technical specs of the Sky+HD box are reasonable, and we encounter no difficulties in the process of driver development, the OHMS system should work, no problem.
Edited by OvationSupport - 5/24/13 at 9:07am
post #40 of 70
@Steelman1991,

OK, after looking into the technical specs of the Sky+HD tuner, it appears that the rs-232 interface does NOT allow control, only some status information.

However, i am in the process of writing an IR module for TV tuner boxes and will try to accommodate the Sky+HD box (in addition to Dish Network and some Cable boxes).

Regards.

PS, One benefit of DirecTV is its hardware, with serial control, was designed to support the custom install market.
post #41 of 70
In response to Steelman1991's inquiry, I have developed an InfraRed (IR) module which is now in beta test. With this new capability, the OHMS system now has the capability to support virtually ANY AV device (receivers, set top boxes and displays).

Serial capability is still recommended because of it's advantages, but as long as the device has IR codes available or an IR remote that can be 'learned', the OHMS system and the ORCA smartphone software can control your device(s).
post #42 of 70
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Originally Posted by steelman1991 View Post

@OvationSupport
Is this system aimed primarily at the North American market or can it be adapted for UK use (ie with Sky HD as part of a system).
Does it also work in an activity fashion - similar to the Harmony remotes ie: one button set ups?

Yes. The ORCA remote is activity based with all necessary actions and inputs performed based on the desired activity.

For instance, selecting 'movies' on the remote switches the system to the correct input (usually DVD or BD) and presents you with a categorized and scrollable list of movies you can browse.

Similarly, selecting "television' switches the system to the correct input (usually TV or SAT or CABLE) and presents you with a interface for changing channels, guide, list favorites etc.

All this is PRE-PROGRAMMED and requires no set-up from the end user.

Regards.
post #43 of 70
For those who've asked about the latest ORCA app release and the new interface design, below is an example of the new Media Control screen (available when playing a movie or recording):



1: Image of currently playing movie or video

2: Press to take you to movie menu (applicable only on movie DISC playback or full movie back-ups).

3: Toggle media playback controls and navigation controls.

4: Tap to get larger view of actors or key performers.

5: Tap to get larger view of movie or video description.

6: Receiver or preamp volume level (only for serial connected devices).

7: Press to mute volume.

8: Tap shaded area to hide or display controls.

9: Subtitles button. Tap to select your subtitle language.



I'll try to post an example of the resigned set-top-box (DirecTV) and other control screens later.

OvationSupport
post #44 of 70
That seems awfully like the JRiver Media Centre logo there:
post #45 of 70
Hello FitBrit,

The 5-way control pad is a common interface meme found on many remote controls (including mechanical push button remotes) like my old Home Theater Master MX-600 or even the ubiquitous DirecTv remote, and on touch screens from all major home automation companies. So it's hard for there not to be some visual similarities.

The incarnation as shown in our ORCA remote app is our own in house design with our own custom designed graphics. Our goal was more a modern but understated appearance.
post #46 of 70
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Originally Posted by OvationSupport View Post

Hello FitBrit,
The 5-way control pad is a common interface meme found on many remote controls (including mechanical push button remotes) like my old Home Theater Master MX-600 or even the ubiquitous DirecTv remote, and on touch screens from all major home automation companies. So it's hard for there not to be some visual similarities.
The incarnation as shown in our ORCA remote app is our own in house design with our own custom designed graphics. Our goal was more a modern but understated appearance.

Thanks for the response. smile.gif
Closer inspection shows a number of differences, but the initial impression I got emphasised the similarities, especially with the colours used. Also one is a logo, and yours is a control pad in the UI if I'm not mistaken?
post #47 of 70
Hello FitBrit,

Correct, the '5-way' control is the control pad on our smartphone remote.

Thr control is used in various forms throughout our ORCA remote control app. For example, below are the control screens for the DirecTV/Cable box/Set-Top-Box control. The first is the TV mode control, the second is the DVR mode control (for those tuners with a DVR function).



LEGEND
1: Go back or Exit.
2: Info.
3: Guide.
4: Press to go to favorites page.
5: Settings. Press to get Sat tuner or Set top box (STB) settings page.
6: DVR. Press to show DVR controls.
7: Press to mute volume.
8: Previous channel.
9: Press for navigation controls (up, down, left, right, enter).
10: Press or ‘fling’ to get digit keypad to enter channel numbers.




Note how in the DVR mode the 5-way control pad changes slightly and now shows buttons for record, FFWD, RWD, etc.

Thanks!
post #48 of 70
To all beta testers and early adopters,

The newest version of the Ovation Remote Control App (ORCA) is now available for download from our website. Some of the new features and improvements in version 2.60 are:

- All new media menu screens. Now features 'jump' buttons at screen bottom for direct navigation to media screens.
- Added a discrete mute button to all media control screens.
- Redesigned and improved the DirecTV/Set-top-box control screen.
- Movies Online menu screen now has options for: NetFlix, Boxee, Hulu and YouTube.
- Channel favorites screen now has guide and mute buttons.
- New screen background graphics.
- Better music browser logic.
- New Music Player control screen with updated graphics and larger seek-bar thumb control.
- Redesigned setup/settings screen now features a 'disconnect' option (useful for multi MaCE setups).
- New DVR control screen now features a keyboard button to allow text input to setup/search for programs to record.
- App will now return to it's previous state when user leaves ORCA to go to Andorid OS.
- Numerous reliability and bug fixes.

The updated app can be downloaded here. Just download the file and install it to your phone.

Also please ensure your media player has the latest version of OHMS. If your player has been left on overnight (recommended) it should have automatically updated itself.

Please provide me with feedback on the newest version. Your inputs are invaluable for the continued improvement of the ORCA app.

Regards,
OvationSupport
Edited by OvationSupport - 6/14/13 at 6:09pm
post #49 of 70
To all beta testers and early adopters,

An upgraded version of the Ovation Remote Control App (ORCA) is now available for download from our website. Some of the new features and improvements in version 2.84 are:
- Changed touch point calculation method for control pad.
- Fixed control image retrieval when retuning to ORCA from other apps.
- Changed 'backup disc' image.
- Added the following favorite channels: AXStv, FUSE, ION, NASA, NatGEOWild, NatGeo, NBA.
- Miscellaneous tweaks and fixes.

The updated app can be downloaded here. Just download the file and install it to your phone.

Also the latest OHMS update has been released. Some of the new features and improvements are:
- Now automatically and silently updates MakeMKV (for those units that have it installed)
- Revised icons and background images for some screens.
- Minor bug fixes.

If your player is left on overnight (recommended) it should automatically updated itself with the latest version of OHMS.

Please provide me with feedback on the newest version. Your inputs are invaluable for the continued improvement of the ORCA app and OHMS MaCE player .

Regards,
OvationSupport
post #50 of 70
To all beta testers and early adopters,

An upgraded version of the Ovation Remote Control App (ORCA) is now available for download from our website. Some of the new features and improvements in version 3.00 are:
- New logo splash screen.
- Fixed wrong menu showing when returning from SurfPad screen.
- Fixed crash when remote conencted during DVR operation.
- Fixed crash when remote conencted during video or movie playback.
- 'Press and Hold' the 'Go Back' or 'Exit' button (see images from previous posts) to return to OHMS from DVR or TV screens.
- Miscellaneous bug and code fixes.

The updated app can be downloaded here. Just download the file and install it to your phone.

Also the latest OHMS update has been released. Some of the new features and improvements are:
- MaCE DVR can now record in High Definition from set top boxes via HDMI or component!
- Fixed crashes and improved performance in multi-MACE environments (MaCE's share media via an OPENS or user server).
- Numerous performance and reliability tweaks.

If your player is left on overnight (recommended) it should automatically update itself with the latest version of OHMS. If your machine is OFF or has been OFF, please turn it on so these updates can be applied.

Please provide me with feedback on the newest version via this thread or our website. Your inputs are invaluable for the continued improvement of the ORCA app and OHMS MaCE player .

Regards and Happy New Year,
OvationSupport
post #51 of 70
To all Beta Testers and Early Adopters:

The latest updates and bug fixes will be applied to your machine beginning today. Some of the updates and fixes include:
- Updated Movie details and cover art grabber (IMDb changed their html code).
- Moved away from a file based status system to a network messaging based system. New method is faster and more reliable.
- Fixed media libraries not updating on remote (ORCA) after new media was added.
-. Fixed a rare bug in DVR machines that occurred when recording successive episodes of the same series.
- Updated Player key shortcuts files.
- Fixed a bug that prevented player from properly turning off.
- Added a prioritization scheme for more reliable control of media playback apps.

To apply the updates, just restart your machine OR just leave the machine on overnight. Updates will be applied between 3:00 AM and 7:00 AM.
There are NO ORCA (remote) UPDATES at this time, but please ensure you have the latest version (v3.00) installed on your mobile phone. It can be found here.

Regards,
Ovation Home Media Systems Support
post #52 of 70
To all Beta Testers and Early Adopters:

There are several OHMS updates and bug fixes that will be applied to your MaCE machine beginning today. Some of the updates and fixes include:

- NEW, now uses FastCopy.exe for 'full disc' backup.
- UPDATED the media scraper to accommodate changes in IMDb’s actors tag html code.
- FIXED music player sending music queue twice to the remote control.
- FIXED insufficient timeout on MakeMKV auto update and install feature.
- FIXED disc storage margin bug ( margin = amount of storage over and above the size of the movie you're backing up).
- NEW. There are now two choices for recordings output files:
  1. recordings with commercials removed
  2. recordings with commercials but with chapter breaks set to skip over them (MaCE DVRs ONLY).

- FIXED. Miscellaneous performance tweaks and bug fixes.
- NEW. Ohms system now sends status of in-process disc backups and TV recordings to the remote control (see images).

Remote Control Screen With Status/Progress Message:


Status Icons Legend:



To apply the updates, just restart your machine OR just leave the machine on overnight. Updates will be applied between 3:00 AM and 7:00 AM.

Also, an updated version of the Ovation Remote Control App (ORCA) is now available for download from our website.
Some of the new features and improvements in version 3.10 are:

- FIXED. Music queue not clearing when requested.
- NEW, now displays disc backup or recordings progress when on TV control screen (see above images).

The updated ORCA app can be downloaded here. Just download the file and install it to your phone.

Please feel free to PM me or post in this thread if you have questions.

Regards,
OvationSupport
Edited by OvationSupport - 4/26/13 at 9:11am
post #53 of 70
To all Beta Testers and Early Adopters:

There are several OHMS updates and bug fixes that will be applied to your MaCE machine beginning today. Some of the updates and fixes include:

- NEW: now allows selection to ‘resume’ or ‘start from beginning’ for previously viewed media (recordings and movies).
- IMPROVED CD music backup process.
- IMPROVED album cover art retrieval success and accuracy.
- RESOLVED remote control sometimes having difficulty re-connecting after disconnect.
- RESOLVED MaCE refusal to connect after returning from from hibernate/sleep.

To apply the updates, just restart your machine OR just leave the machine on overnight. Updates will be applied between 3:00 AM and 7:00 AM.

Also, an updated version of the Ovation Remote Control App (ORCA) is now available for download from our website.
Some of the new features and improvements in version 3.40 are:

- RESOLVED ORCA connectivity after dis-connect.
- IMPROVED, faster download of media data from MaCE (especially library updates).

The updated ORCA app can be downloaded here. Just download the file and install it to your phone.


Regards,
OvationSupport
Edited by OvationSupport - 4/26/13 at 11:06am
post #54 of 70
A small note:

The latest OHMS and MaCE updates made some improvements to the music media aspects of the OHMS system. Although music tends not to be a priority with AVSforum members (at least in this section of the forum) I would ask those members with OHMS machines to test out these music features (I have not gotten much feedback about the music playback).

Please try to ‘backup’ some CDs and report your experience. I am particularly interested in the album art retrieval success rate.

Thanks
OvationSupport
post #55 of 70
To all OHMS customers,

There are several OHMS updates and bug fixes that will be applied to your MaCE machine beginning this week. Some of the updates and fixes include:

- RESOLVED a bug in Movie library Sync process.
- RESOLVED a potential bug that would occur when powering down ‘stand alone’ systems (this bug was unreported as there are few users with stand alone setups).

To apply the updates, just restart your machine OR just leave the machine on overnight. Updates will be applied between 3:00 AM and 7:00 AM.

Also, an updated version of the Ovation Remote Control App (ORCA) is now available for download from our website.
Some of the new features and improvements in version 3.51 are:

- RESOLVED Now Playing screen now shows correct media details when connecting while video is playing. Previously, if you started a video with the keyboard and then connected the remote via Wi-Fi, the now playing screen on the remote would show the default image and blank details.

- NEW. Added navigation control to Favorite Channels screen on remote. This allows menu, info and guide navigation from the Favorite Channels screen. Now whenever the user presses the Info or Guide buttons, a floating navigation control appears (with receiver volume indication). Press Go back or the shaded area around the nav control to hide the control and return to the Favorite Channels screen (see image below).





The updated ORCA app can be downloaded here. Just download the file and install it to your phone.


Regards,
OvationSupport
post #56 of 70
To AVSforum members:

We have two prototype MaCE units available to give away to qualifying AVSforum members FOR FREE (including shipping). These MaCE units have different enclosures than production units but are otherwise identical.

Units come with ORCA remote control app for your android smartphone, USB serial cables and adapter to connect to your system and full online technical support.

Unfortunately this offer is limited to members located in the USA. If you are not located in the US, shipping and other charges may apply.

Please PM me here or contact me at: info@OvationHomeMedia.com for details.
post #57 of 70
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The 3808 had an MSRP north of $2k. The minimum Denon that does this in the XX12 line is the 2312ci, MSRP $850, street $600.



My two year old Denon 3312 has it. It was not that high end... I'd say it's about normal these days for members of AVS forums.
post #58 of 70
I've replied to PMs regarding the free MaCE machines.

We still have a few available. Please PM me if interested.

Regards,
OvationSupport
post #59 of 70
Any plans for iOS support ?
post #60 of 70
Hello Mfusick,

iOS support is planned but not soon, for three main reasons:

  1. The market is SATURATED with iOS remote control apps.
  2. There are far more Android devices with much greater diversity (from $50 cheap Chinese phone to $9,600 Vertu Ti). This allows end users to choose a remote best suited for their price point. Android allows us to develop a more robust product suitable for a variety of hardware.
  3. Relative to Google (Android), Apple requires a more lengthy process before being approved for Apple app store. We want to make sure our product is bug-free before we submit.


Rest assured though, it is on our road map but not a priority.

Regards,
OvationSupport
Edited by OvationSupport - 6/23/13 at 6:10am
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