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post #61 of 121
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Originally Posted by dksc318 View Post

i7-3700T plus DQ77KB is a lot of power for a media server. This is also your desktop machine?
Nope, it's my new Windows Media Center PC (soon as I cut out a slot for my ceton tuner), FlexRAID NAS, Plex Media Server, SABnzdb, sickbeard, couchpotato.

I'll probably run a FTP server on it too, but I'm looking for something that does secure FTP, HTTP/HTTPS w/ web gui, ect. Basically I am combining the services of my synology NAS, and HTPC into one small server. The synology couldn't handle transcoding mkv's and good quality rips to my roku. I'll miss their awesome UI though. I'm trying to find decent software I can use to duplicate all the services my synology DS411+ NAS provided.

i7-3770T is a 45W cpu, only 10 more watts than my i3-2120T w/ a lot more power.
post #62 of 121
It'll be interesting to see what happens with your custom cooler and that 45W i7-3770T. In case stable CPU temperature cannot be achieved, it seemed you may have enough space for a Dynatron K129 passive cooler.
http://www.dynatron-corp.com/en/product_detail_1.aspx?cv=&id=190&in=0

What fan speed and CPU temperature did your DH61AG, Lian-Li PCQ05, HTS1155LP and i3-2120T run at? Is the noise level acceptable?

I am using DH61AG, i5-2390T, Dynatron T459 HSF in a M350 case and it is very quiet. But it does go up to 65+Deg C when playing a video.
post #63 of 121
I wanted to know if a 3770K can be used with the DQ77KB, not to overclock it but to underclock the processor to thermal limits of the case/cooling, then overclock the memory. Since the third generation core processors must have DDR3 running at 1.5V, I thought you might be able to overclock DDR3L 1.35V or DDR3U 1.25V (that might shortly be available). It would be interesting to see what happens when the processor is underclocked at 2.4GHZ and the memory is overclocked to 2400MHz (matching frequencies).

So basically I would be using the 3770K with the TDP of the 3700T, but exploiting the unlocked memory clock of the k version. Overclocking is not my expertise and I am just suggesting from my naive perspective an interesting possibility, so please be polite in your responses!
post #64 of 121
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Originally Posted by Diverge View Post

My Lian Li PCQ16

I really like what you did with the HDD mounting in this case. Is there anywhere (maybe a thread here?) you went into detail on what you changed in that case?
post #65 of 121
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Originally Posted by sandersjds View Post

I really like what you did with the HDD mounting in this case. Is there anywhere (maybe a thread here?) you went into detail on what you changed in that case?


thanks!

Basically I just drilled out the rivets holding the stock hard drive mounts to the upper plate that mounts in the top of the case, and used a hard drive cage from another lian li case (https://picasaweb.google.com/104979206991404158659/NASLianLiPCQ16?authuser=0&feat=directlink#5754688746631536946) as a template for drilling holes in the original plate. Then just made a strap for the bottom of the hard drives for stability. I got some better grommets to use, but just haven't had time to redo it yet.
post #66 of 121
Sorry is this is slightly off topic, but does anyone know of any other thin mini-itx cases besides the lian li? the Lian li looks nice but no front USB has me interested in alternatives of similar size?
post #67 of 121
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Originally Posted by touser View Post

Sorry is this is slightly off topic, but does anyone know of any other thin mini-itx cases besides the lian li? the Lian li looks nice but no front USB has me interested in alternatives of similar size?

Get a usb extension and route it under the case to just short of the front of the case. Plug your usb dongle in there. Looks much cleaner anyway, imo.

Something like this for $0.99 would work well.
post #68 of 121
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Get a usb extension and route it under the case to just short of the front of the case. Plug your usb dongle in there. Looks much cleaner anyway, imo.
Something like this for $0.99 would work well.

Thanks, that's kind of what i was trying to avoid. If possible i would like everything to be internal to the case to make it more easily portable without being able to forget wires. It's not the end of the world, i can cut a hole in the front and make it look decent fairly easily. I just wasn't sure if any other cases in the form factor existed because the lian li is a bit on the pricey side.
post #69 of 121
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/catalogs/thin-mini-itx-catalog.pdf

See page 10 for specific AC adapter SKUs (note the mismatched barrel jack pictures/descriptions?), and 7-8 for some additional case options. The G-Alantic will probably be expensive and hard to find in the US, but the Morex cases should be priced reasonably.
post #70 of 121
my i7-3770T came today. It works fine in the DQ77KB.

Now if I can just figure out how to configure Intel Management Engine so I can use the built in Intel AMT KVM.
post #71 of 121
Does your mod'ed HTS1155LP keep stable CPU temp?
post #72 of 121
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Originally Posted by dksc318 View Post

Does your mod'ed HTS1155LP keep stable CPU temp?

yeah, the cores only go to low-mid 60's under prime95. I didn't even put thermal paste between the heatsink and heat pipes yet either (only on the cpu mount).

under full load, the MB, CPU, RAM, 140mm PWM fan, and mSATA SSD draw about 66watts from the outlet.

Edit: the thermal paste (IC Diamond) didn't cure yet either.
Edited by Diverge - 7/13/12 at 4:56am
post #73 of 121
That large front fan is connected to CPU PWM fan header? At 60+deg C, it would go to about 2000 RPM?

I am testing a 35W i3-2100T with a Dynatron K129 passive cooler and a 40mm Dynatron fan in a case about 65mm tall inside. It would go to 4000 RPM under load and stable at about 60deg C.
post #74 of 121
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Originally Posted by dksc318 View Post

That large front fan is connected to CPU PWM fan header? At 60+deg C, it would go to about 2000 RPM?
I am testing a 35W i3-2100T with a Dynatron K129 passive cooler and a 40mm Dynatron fan in a case about 65mm tall inside. It would go to 4000 RPM under load and stable at about 60deg C.

Yeah, I have it connected to the CPU PWM header - it's the only fan in the case. The stock fan was replaced with a PWM fan. I think it goes to about 1200 RPM at full load, and about 600 RPM at idle conditions (you can adjust the temperature trigger points in the BIOS).

Here's the fan I'm using http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233092
post #75 of 121
You got a unique setup there.
post #76 of 121
Does anyone who has a DQ77KB have a media center extender connected?

I'm having some issues getting my xbox setup (says it can't find the Xbox 360 Media Center Extender driver) and trying to figure out the source of my issues and if it's related to the 2 onboard Intel NICs or the Pro NIC software for them.

edit: nevermind, i figured out the problem. Was related to WES7 setup/install and media center extender uPNP x driver not being installed during the OS install.
Edited by Diverge - 8/17/12 at 10:28am
post #77 of 121
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Originally Posted by touser View Post

Sorry is this is slightly off topic, but does anyone know of any other thin mini-itx cases besides the lian li? the Lian li looks nice but no front USB has me interested in alternatives of similar size?

There are many mini itx cases from Lian Li and Silverstone. This is the one I plan to use:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112361
post #78 of 121
Does anyone have the DQ77KB board with an I7-3770s working inside a mini-box 350 case? I'm curious if the stock heat sink and fan that comes with the CPU fits inside the case, and how hot it gets inside. In the next month or so I'm looking to build that configuration as an off site backup ESXi box for my I/T consulting business. I have the VMWare ESXi Essentials bundle and am only using one of the three licenses, so it seemed like a good idea to have an offsite backup box if I can build one for a reasonable cost.

The backup box will be going into my vacation home in Florida and has to fit into a fairly small space in a bathroom closet that's behind the main TV wall in the living room, and is where the home theater and networking equipment currently sits. Space is tight which is why I'm looking at the mini-box 350 case. Also, I leave the temperature inside the place at 78 degrees when I'm not there, and the temperature in the closet gets a couple degrees warmer with what equipment I leave running in there when I'm gone, even with the door open, so I need to make sure that it doesn't overheat or put out so much heat that things get too hot in the closet. I don't want to have to set the temperature down and run the A/C in the place anymore than the minimum necessary to keep the humidity under control when I'm not there, especially just for this, as that gets real expensive when the temperature is above 90 degrees for 8 months a year.

Right now I've got a laptop in there and a couple of external USB hard drives, plus the router and cable modem, that I leave running and which I use as an off site backup. However, the laptop couldn't run my SBS 2008 VM that has my email server in it if something happened to my main server in Ohio, which is why I'm looking to upgrade to something that would be capable of doing that in a pinch.

Suggestions welcome.
post #79 of 121
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Originally Posted by dksc318 View Post

I bought a STD-19084 160W 19V adapter from mitxpc. This web store is actually located in the Bay Area and I just drove to their office. They carry many items for ITX setups such as special I/O plate for DN2800MT.
I also tried it with a Kensington 120W Model 33197 travel charger with a N19 tip for Dell laptop. This setup runs at 20V which should be ok for +5%. But this adapter consumes about 6W with the DH61AG computer on S3 standby, which is poor. Should be around 1.5W. A real Dell adapter should be better.
There is an internal 2 pin power jack on the MB and I got a Lenovo fanless 19V switching power supply FRU: 71Y8204 to try. Just need to attach the correct 2 pin output connector.
Thanks for your power supply information.
I want to build an ITX system using this board. I prepare to use the Lenovo ThinkPad W series power supply (~230W) to power up the board. However, the output is 20V. Can it be used safely?
Thanks for your help.
post #80 of 121
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Originally Posted by rocketeerhk View Post

Thanks for your power supply information.
I want to build an ITX system using this board. I prepare to use the Lenovo ThinkPad W series power supply (~230W) to power up the board. However, the output is 20V. Can it be used safely?
Thanks for your help.

230W is overkill, but if the connector fits it will work fine.

If you already have it, great, if not, buy something cheaper.

Its nice that some of the htpc/itx focused vendors sell a compatible adapter, but people can save their $ since it uses a very common plug size and voltage. (does your work have dells or HP laptops? I bet they have old one bricks they don't need)

One of the super common 90W adapters will work for most use cases of this board. If you are driving a lot of peripherals or actually using the internal LCD connectors then I would shoot for a 130-150W, not hard to find either.

As for "20V" this kind of commodity DC input is generally +/-10% tolerant (or more) and the many many many different laptop bricks out there follow this trend. Don't try "12V" or car/boat/RV adapters though, too low.


Random comment:
For 45W quad core a Xeon E3 1265L V2 is equivalent to 3770T, easier to find, possibly cheaper since it has a retail SKU, and it works in this board.
post #81 of 121
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Originally Posted by rocketeerhk View Post

Thanks for your power supply information.
I want to build an ITX system using this board. I prepare to use the Lenovo ThinkPad W series power supply (~230W) to power up the board. However, the output is 20V. Can it be used safely?
Thanks for your help.

I didn't see Thinkpad W series 230W adapters but I do see 170W, which should work fine. This adapter plug doesn't fit the intel MB power jack. There are Thinkpad power input pigtails that you can recrimp with proper connector pins to work with the MB internal power connector.

The Thinkpad 16V power pigtail will fit many of the 19V/20V bricks from Dell and HP. But in any case the MB side connector must be removed and recrimped to mate to the intel internal connector. I was able to find these parts here in Silicon valley but it may not be easy for you.

In the end, buying a proper 19V brick made for intel may be easier for you.
post #82 of 121
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Originally Posted by touser View Post

Sorry is this is slightly off topic, but does anyone know of any other thin mini-itx cases besides the lian li? the Lian li looks nice but no front USB has me interested in alternatives of similar size?

I think the new Akasa Cypher is pretty sharp. They also have the fanless Euler which is a lot more money.
post #83 of 121
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Originally Posted by Solderbot View Post

I think the new Akasa Cypher is pretty sharp. They also have the fanless Euler which is a lot more money.

Love the look of that Cypher. Any idea when it will be available? I'm looking for a case for my DQ77KB but haven't found one yet.
post #84 of 121
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Originally Posted by Solderbot View Post

I think the new Akasa Cypher is pretty sharp. They also have the fanless Euler which is a lot more money.

I bought the Euler though it won't be for a HTPC, I'll try to post something once I put parts inside.

Hard to find, had a chance to snag one from the UK. Probably the only one in the US for now wink.gif
post #85 of 121
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Originally Posted by Aluminum View Post

I bought the Euler though it won't be for a HTPC, I'll try to post something once I put parts inside.
Hard to find, had a chance to snag one from the UK. Probably the only one in the US for now wink.gif

Nice! I'd definitely be interested in knowing how it works out for you. For now I'm going to use the M350 (fugly).
post #86 of 121
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Originally Posted by Aluminum View Post

I bought the Euler though it won't be for a HTPC, I'll try to post something once I put parts inside.
Hard to find, had a chance to snag one from the UK. Probably the only one in the US for now wink.gif

How do you buy one of these? Is this sold in the UK only? I bought a case from Tranquil PC, but it's taking a long time to get a shipping update.
post #87 of 121
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Originally Posted by Tank_PD View Post

How do you buy one of these? Is this sold in the UK only? I bought a case from Tranquil PC, but it's taking a long time to get a shipping update.

Have a friend in the UK? Scan doesn't want to bother with anyone non-EU (I tried going direct) and they were the only place that I could find that had it in stock.
post #88 of 121
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Originally Posted by Aluminum View Post

Have a friend in the UK? Scan doesn't want to bother with anyone non-EU (I tried going direct) and they were the only place that I could find that had it in stock.

I guess I will continue to wait for my Tranquil PC. Has been almost a month and nothing. Has anyone ordered from them before. I really just wanted the heatsink / fanless case.
post #89 of 121
Hi htere can someone recommend an ivy bridge cpu and what ram I should buy to put in my build?

http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=25462767


I am in Canada and not sure what ram and cpu are good choices.
post #90 of 121
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Originally Posted by wildchild22 View Post

Hi htere can someone recommend an ivy bridge cpu and what ram I should buy to put in my build?
http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=25462767
I am in Canada and not sure what ram and cpu are good choices.

Check my guide.
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