Experience Dolby TrueHD w/advanced 96k upsampling on the San Francisco Symphony at 100 on Blu-ray - Page 2

YEY! Placebo FTW!!!

Why are you using DTS' marketing slogans?

How do you know it was the new upsampled format and not just an original 96K 16 bit recording? Is it indicated somewhere on the disc? Because it's 96K doesn't automatically mean it was upsampled. "Sex Lies and Videotape" is a 96K Blu-Ray but it wasn't upsampled. All the original film mag (or tape) elements were digitized at 96K, which makes that one a "real" 96K. perhaps "Nightfall" is an original 96K. Does it have the upsampled logo?

Also look here to hear (see) it from the horse's mouth.
Edited by William - 7/5/12 at 9:22am

DTS has a marketing division?... Never knew.

Pretty sure the asian blu-rays doesn't have official logos for their cases yet if ever. It's no big deal over there as here. None does but still there are more movies out like this http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/content/blu-ray-disc/the-flowers-of-war.html And if original elements were 96 they wouldn't have downsampled the DTS track right?

Yes I know it's in the advertising. I have the disc in my hand right now and don't see any indication on the disc itself about it being upsampled. It says "presented in HD Video and 96 kHz 24-bit 5.1 channel audio, and stereo." I'm just saying, I object to 48K upsampled audio, using this new Dolby encoding process, being passed off as 96K audio with no indication about upsampling or at least the logo on the packaging. That pretty gold logo is not on the disc packaging. When I buy 96K downloads from HD Tracks, I expect to get a copy of the analog original master digitized at 96K - not a 44.1 CD master that's been upconverted to 96k and then passed off as 96K - at a premium price - no matter how good their upsampling software may be.
Edited by moovtune - 7/7/12 at 10:16am

From the below link...

http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/content/blu-ray-disc/san-francisco-symphony-at-100.html


Dolby TrueHD with Advanced 96k Upsampling
Dolby® TrueHD is a 100 percent lossless audio format that ensures you’ll experience movies and music that are identical to the studio masters, soundstage mixes, or concert recordings.

Advanced 96k upsampling provides an enhanced Blu-ray™ listening experience for movies, music, and television programming originally captured in 48k.

This is such a bummer. I was willing to pick this up until I found this.

^^^
Maybe that's why they call it upsampling?

Well it still sounds very good and I recommend it, and all the SFS Blu-Ray releases. There's nothing at all wrong with 48K 24 bit 5.1 True HD. I just want the truth on the packaging so I know what I'm getting.

yup you got it. to me this is very misleading.

The reason this is going on is that most video equipment uses 48 KHz sampling. If you check out the specs on most Blu-ray movies, and even concerts, you'll see that 48/16 is run-of-the mill and 48/24 is used for blockbusters because of its greater potential dynamic range (or, conversely, smoother gradients within the same total dynamic range).

AIX is an exception to this trend in releasing Blu-rays actually shot at 5.1 96/24.

What Dolby appears to be doing is saying to the movie industry, here's how to use your current equipment to produce movies and concerts and then be able to market it as 96/24, by using our post-production equipment. If the audience accepts this uncritically by buying these "proof of concept" disks, Dolby will have established a new niche for themselves, and a marketing edge over DTS HD MA - though there's nothing stopping DTS from offering the same thing.

The loser is the audience, as the demand for 96/24 would be diverted from true 96/24 releases that could push the standard production equipment in that direction to upsampled disks made with no improvement to the production equipment.

Laughed my a$$ off. Yep, it was worth typing out the words.


James