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Best Single Paint (non-mix) that Can Be Rolled?

post #1 of 11
6/17/12 at 1:57pm
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I've done the exotic paint mixtures seen in these threads and sprayed them on an MDF board, and the results were amazing. But currently I'm living in a place only for 6-12 months for a short-term contracting position and don't want to invest the time and money to do an elaborate project when I know I'll be moving in such a short amount of time. I'd like to find a single paint (or perhaps a combination of paints that can be mixed right at Home Depot or similar) that I can buy off the shelf that can be rolled onto an MDF board. Any suggestions for such a paint? Thanks!

I should clarify that I would like something that performs well in moderate ambient light conditions.
Edited by bennynihon - 6/17/12 at 2:03pm
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post #2 of 11
6/17/12 at 3:17pm
What can be suggested is determined by your PJ's output, contrast specs, and positioning.

If you can stay within 98" diagonal, use an inexpensive substrate, and you use a Neutral Gray Paint of a shade that works well with the aforementioned, you can accomplish your goals quickly, afford-ably, and be satisfied as well.
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post #3 of 11
6/17/12 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by MississippiMan View Post

What can be suggested is determined by your PJ's output, contrast specs, and positioning.
If you can stay within 98" diagonal, use an inexpensive substrate, and you use a Neutral Gray Paint of a shade that works well with the aforementioned, you can accomplish your goals quickly, afford-ably, and be satisfied as well.

The projector is the Optoma HD33 and I'd be projecting it on a screen size right about 98" actually. I've read that the ProClassic Smooth Enamel Satin Finish is a good paint.
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post #4 of 11
6/18/12 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by bennynihon View Post

The projector is the Optoma HD33 and I'd be projecting it on a screen size right about 98" actually. I've read that the ProClassic Smooth Enamel Satin Finish is a good paint.

Used as a Base to mix in a Gray Tint, yes...it would be a good choice. However it's pricey....must be ordered from a SW store, and it only comes in Gallons as far as I'm aware of.

A more than suitable alternative is Behr UPW Interior Enamel Satin with the Gray Tint.
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post #5 of 11
6/20/12 at 4:35pm
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Thanks MM. Any suggestions on a good Gray paint to use if I go with the Behr UPW? And how many parts Gray to UPW?
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post #6 of 11
6/21/12 at 6:43am
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Originally Posted by bennynihon View Post

Thanks MM. Any suggestions on a good Gray paint to use if I go with the Behr UPW? And how many parts Gray to UPW?

Here is my best choice fir your PJ and situation. Take these figures in and ask for the numbers to be entered in manually. The ratios are configured for either 1 Quart or 1 Gallon respectfully.

~N8 DIY Tint {Dark Gray}

Quart Custom Tint

Behr UPW Interior Enamel Flat
062 Lamp Black
014 Brown Oxide
006 Medium Yellow

Gallon Custom Tint
Behr UPW Interior Enamel Flat
248 Lamp Black
056 Brown Oxide
024 Medium Yellow

I'm changing up to your using a Flat sheen because there will be no other items mixed into such a simple mix to mitigate the small amount of sheen Satin will bring the the equation. And because your Rolling and not spraying, there will be all the more tendency for some amount of sheen to develop due to the pressure of the roller flattening down the paint. Lastly, rolling a Flat will reduce the potential for creating / seeing Roller Marks. Anything with a sheen can accentuate those little nasties.

In the end, the finish you get will be determined wholly on how much care yo take in rolling, so be meticulous, do not over-work the paint, and do not under-apply and roll the Roller dry. Work the "wet edge" by starting the next vertical row one roller width past the wet edge, and then come into that edge on the up-roll. If after your first set of roll passes you see any issues, "LEAVE THEM ALONE". It's always better to let the paint dry before re-starting, and mistakes or lighter covered areas can be more easily corrected then.
Good luck.
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post #7 of 11
6/21/12 at 10:10am
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MM, your help is much appreciated. Unfortunately I went to Home Depot yesterday for some other things and got impatient and bought the paint. I ended up going with their Silver Tradition, which is a rather light, neutral gray (many of the other grays looked blue or purple tinted). I did however stick with the Satin Enamel. Hopefully this doesn't prove difficult to roll.

I went with the smoothest, small nap roller they had, which was a high-density foam roller. Unfortunately they didn't have any larger rollers in that style, just the smaller touch up rollers. I know this will only create more seams but we'll see. Not sure if this is common of most places and the lack of a larger high-density foam roller. I could always return it to Home Depot if I know of a place that stocked larger foam rollers. Thanks again!
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post #8 of 11
6/21/12 at 1:06pm
I'm in a similar situation, 98" sintra screen. Don't want mettalics, leery of sheen. 2500 lumen PJ. Close viewing(7ft). Light is controlled, dark ceiling, but beige walls. What would be a good suggestion from SW? I would like as dark as I could go. Rolled the Black widow, too much grit for this close sitting.
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post #9 of 11
6/21/12 at 6:49pm
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Originally Posted by CaptJosh View Post

I'm in a similar situation, 98" sintra screen. Don't want mettalics, leery of sheen. 2500 lumen PJ. Close viewing(7ft). Light is controlled, dark ceiling, but beige walls. What would be a good suggestion from SW? I would like as dark as I could go. Rolled the Black widow, too much grit for this close sitting.

Any SW Neutral Gray of 6.5 / 7.0 or so such as "165 167 163 - SW 7066 GRAY MATTERS" mixed into a SW Flat Interior Enamel "Deep Base" would do

Sorry you got hit with graininess, but 7' is stretching the absolute limits of reasonable viewing distance. Not that the paint you tried wouldn't probably have been significantly better if applied correctly via HVLP. I'm sure it would have been.

But in any case, you'd be playing it quite safe and assured that with a good job rolling, the suggested application above would pretty well satisfy your critiquing.
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post #10 of 11
6/22/12 at 1:01pm
Yeah, the screen would be great from 10+ ft. I knew I'd be pushing it, but you never know til you try. I think a simple neutral gray would be best for me. Matte white was too much. What is the munsell value of gray matters at 164 167 162 be? I see that Gray Screen is 200 203 203...is that around an N8? I wish I could find some comparative screen shots. Thanks for your help.
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post #11 of 11
6/22/12 at 11:30pm
Gray Matters is in the 6-6.5 range, closer to the lower.
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