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post #121 of 381
Update to the LM9600 User Guide if you are interested in downloading it from LGs web site. I believe it has the latest info from the features added in the last patch.
post #122 of 381
I checked out 3d for the first time today. One word again: AMAZING! I noticed zero crosstalk and quality looked pretty good!
post #123 of 381
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Originally Posted by vishank View Post

I checked out 3d for the first time today. One word again: AMAZING! I noticed zero crosstalk and quality looked pretty good!
Yes!!!!!! I agree 100% the best 3d I have seen compared to the theater, Sony personal 3d viewer, and active shutter 3d from a panasonic vt tv !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Got toxicity from the dentist the other day so I wasn't able to play Tekken in 3d or watch Titanic in 3d yet. I will follow up.
post #124 of 381
Pulled the trigger guys bought it today at Amazon, had to do it before they started sale tax in California. First thing going to check before i update the firmware is the 24p bug and the input lag, then update it to the latest firmware i can't wait !!
post #125 of 381
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Originally Posted by wg4ever View Post

I just ordered the 55LM9600 from Amazon, today. It will be delivered Friday. There is a Link on the site, which I am not sure if I am allowed to post here, that you click on the TV, and a pair of $12,99 glasses. You go to the cart and change the quantity of the glasses to six pairs. When you go to pay, the TV, which comes with 6 pairs of glasses, will cost $2338, and the six other pairs of glasses that you added will be free. So, in summary, you get the TV and 12 pairs of glasses for $2338, with no tax and free shipping. I live in California, so buying this locally at this price with the tax and a state e-waste fee would have added about $350 to the total. Also locally the only place that has this TV is the Magnolia Best Buys, and there it is priced at $3300!


*Update*

I received the TV on Wednesday, and, after updating the firmware and tweaking the settings, I'd have to say it is a beautiful TV with a great picture. One negative thing, though, is mine came with a defective wireless card in it. It cant see any access points and usually this area around my house has about 20 of them. They are sending someone to repair it on Monday.
post #126 of 381
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Originally Posted by kentgabel View Post

Yes!!!!!! I agree 100% the best 3d I have seen compared to the theater, Sony personal 3d viewer, and active shutter 3d from a panasonic vt tv !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Got toxicity from the dentist the other day so I wasn't able to play Tekken in 3d or watch Titanic in 3d yet. I will follow up.
I have the LG LV9500,it is the same TV with active 3D,with THX 3D I can tell you it is a killer TV,I just wish these two TV'S could be compared together.Does anyone have both models?
post #127 of 381
Awesome to see more folks buying this TV. After a few initial bad and good reviews I think LG has fixed a few problems with it's last firmware update. I am very happy I got this LM9600 and have been enjoying watching all the movies on Blu-ray and my usual sports. Let's keep this thread going with any updates and tips you can come up with to help make our TV watching more enjoyable!
post #128 of 381
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Originally Posted by 6athome View Post

I have the LG LV9500,it is the same TV with active 3D,with THX 3D I can tell you it is a killer TV,I just wish these two TV'S could be compared together.Does anyone have both models?

I actually have both models. I can't do any side by side comparisons though but here is my point of view regarding both of the models:

Picture quality
- The LV9500 definitely has better black levels. As you probably know, it can get very milky black levels that in a dark room, you cannot see where the bezel is. In comparison, the LM9600 has grayish black levels which makes it very horrid to watch in a dark room.
- There seems to be an issue with shadow detail with the LM9600 that I cannot fix yet with the settings. e.g. When I see a person wearing a dark suit, you cannot distinguish the individual parts of the suit, as the black color meshes all together. The LV9500 had no problem with this.
- Zero blooming with the LM9600. This was a big problem with the LV9500.
- LV9500 on a totally dark screen, was just that - totally black (with LED dimming on). In comparison, my LM9600 has clouding on the upper side of screen and the right and bottom of the screens.

Audio quality
- Can't comment as I am using a sound system.

3D
- I so far don't notice a big difference in resolution. I am also sitting further back so do not notice the horizontal lines with passive 3d. I definitely do like the more lightweight glasses though!

Wifi and Apps
- Both are dual band, and work great.
- Apps are about the same with both. Although the LV9500 had Amazon Video and its missing in the LM9600

DLNA/File/Audio Support
- The LM9600 has better DLNA support and a better folder system view. It is an improvement over the LV9500. It looks like the menu system has also been improved. Still, moving around in the menu is much slower than the LV9500 even with it being dual core.
- The LM9600 has DTS support including passthrough! This is a huge difference as the LV9500 would get audio error when playing a file with DTS.
- The LM9600 also has subtitle support. The LV9500 does not.

I think its worth the upgrade if you can sacrifice black levels but get the benefit of passive 3d, DTS support, etc. By the way, it looks like CNET posted a review stating the LM7600 has better picture quality (including black levels) than the LM9600. What's up with that?
Edited by vishank - 9/15/12 at 3:42pm
post #129 of 381
thanks for the review,it was done very well
post #130 of 381
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Originally Posted by vishank View Post

I actually have both models. I can't do any side by side comparisons though but here is my point of view regarding both of the models:
Picture quality
- The LV9500 definitely has better black levels. As you probably know, it can get very milky black levels that in a dark room, you cannot see where the bezel is. In comparison, the LM9600 has grayish black levels which makes it very horrid to watch in a dark room.
- There seems to be an issue with shadow detail with the LM9600 that I cannot fix yet with the settings. e.g. When I see a person wearing a dark suit, you cannot distinguish the individual parts of the suit, as the black color meshes all together. The LV9500 had no problem with this.
- Zero blooming with the LM9600. This was a big problem with the LV9500.
- LV9500 on a totally dark screen, was just that - totally black (with LED dimming on). In comparison, my LM9600 has clouding on the upper side of screen and the right and bottom of the screens.
Audio quality
- Can't comment as I am using a sound system.
3D
- I so far don't notice a big difference in resolution. I am also sitting further back so do not notice the horizontal lines with passive 3d. I definitely do like the more lightweight glasses though!
Wifi and Apps
- Both are dual band, and work great.
- Apps are about the same with both. Although the LV9500 had Amazon Video and its missing in the LM9600
DLNA/File/Audio Support
- The LM9600 has better DLNA support and a better folder system view. It is an improvement over the LV9500. It looks like the menu system has also been improved. Still, moving around in the menu is much slower than the LV9500 even with it being dual core.
- The LM9600 has DTS support including passthrough! This is a huge difference as the LV9500 would get audio error when playing a file with DTS.
- The LM9600 also has subtitle support. The LV9500 does not.
I think its worth the upgrade if you can sacrifice black levels but get the benefit of passive 3d, DTS support, etc. By the way, it looks like CNET posted a review stating the LM7600 has better picture quality (including black levels) than the LM9600. What's up with that?
Regarding the clouding on the upper side of the screen. Mine also had this problem and somebodies post brought this to my attention. A review from I think HomeTheater.com had the same issue and sent there's back. I also replaced mine with a brand new one under a 30 day return policy. I have zero issues now my corners are dark. Boy was it annoying before. I recommend that you switch yours out if possible. I'm so glad somebody brought that to my attention and I hope other new buyers look for that too. I watched Transformers Dark of the Moon 3D last night and it was absolutely gorgeous. Kind of redundant movie and not the best 3d blu ray. I will say it looked prettier on the 9600 than when I saw it in the theater.
post #131 of 381
UPDATE: I got my TV yesterday Picture looks great and 3d awesome and no input lag when i put on game mode. I do have some Clouding, Flashlight or backlight bleed whatever you want to call it on the bottom right of the screen. Is this normal for LED set?? i dunno if i should exchange it for a different one or get the Sony XBR-HX950. Do you guys experience any clouding or backlight bleed on your sets??what are the chances of me returning this and getting another bad set?
post #132 of 381
Try turning LED Local Dimming to low, medium or high if you have not. That can lessen the bleed somewhat
post #133 of 381
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Originally Posted by vishank View Post

Try turning LED Local Dimming to low, medium or high if you have not. That can lessen the bleed somewhat

Just tried it and putting it on low did help. I just see a little bleeding now on the bottom right, when watching a show and going to the home screen when the screen turns black. you really see it the bleeding on all 4 sides when you click on the MLB.TV app or 3d world. Have you click on the MLB.TV app and do you see any bleeding??
post #134 of 381
The edge bleeding on the bottom right is little less now after some tweaks i did with Flatpanels calibration. you could barely notice in dark scenes. i think you can't really get away from this with LED sets, i'll give it week and do some more testing on it and wait for more reviews on Sony XBR-HX950 and i'll decide if i'll exchange for another LM9600 or trade for Sony XBR-HX950
post #135 of 381
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Originally Posted by JTT23 View Post

The edge bleeding on the bottom right is little less now after some tweaks i did with Flatpanels calibration. you could barely notice in dark scenes. i think you can't really get away from this with LED sets, i'll give it week and do some more testing on it and wait for more reviews on Sony XBR-HX950 and i'll decide if i'll exchange for another LM9600 or trade for Sony XBR-HX950
I too had problems with bleeding light in the corners, in particular the upper right. I exchanged mine within a 30 day window and my new one is awesome. The LED compared to a plasma will never be as dark. If you are looking for black blacks then I suggest you go with a plasma. I have a VT downstairs and it's bar none. I bought the LED for temperature purposes in my bedroom. Plus, the 3d is the best I have seen. I too looked at the Sony XBR but I'm not sold that the tech is over a year old and the 3d is weak. It also has tricky 3d viewing angles. The XBR is dark like a plasma for a LED but I hear the new one is coming out in a couple months you might wanna wait for that. I will say it won't be as cheap as the 9600 though. If you decide to keep it I would at-least switch it out with a new 9600 to try to get better corners. Good luck.
post #136 of 381
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Originally Posted by kentgabel View Post

I too had problems with bleeding light in the corners, in particular the upper right. I exchanged mine within a 30 day window and my new one is awesome. The LED compared to a plasma will never be as dark. If you are looking for black blacks then I suggest you go with a plasma. I have a VT downstairs and it's bar none. I bought the LED for temperature purposes in my bedroom. Plus, the 3d is the best I have seen. I too looked at the Sony XBR but I'm not sold that the tech is over a year old and the 3d is weak. It also has tricky 3d viewing angles. The XBR is dark like a plasma for a LED but I hear the new one is coming out in a couple months you might wanna wait for that. I will say it won't be as cheap as the 9600 though. If you decide to keep it I would at-least switch it out with a new 9600 to try to get better corners. Good luck.



I love how the picture looks on this set, i'm probably just going switch it out and hope i get a better set by the end of my 30day window.
post #137 of 381
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Originally Posted by Derf View Post

I've had my 55LM9600 for a few weeks now and overall am impressed. Solid picture quality, great looks, nice extras (I have an XBMC setup on my other TV, so I loaded PLEX onto my Diskstation server and can use MediaLink to watch shows on the LG). Not enthralled with the Magic Remote, but nothing is perfect.
I do have one serious issue though - if I try to connect the TV via ethernet directly into my network, the TV begins to have a "wired network connected"/"wired network disconnected" cycle. For a while, I just removed the connection and switched to WiFi, but MediaLink has issues with high-bandwidth shows on WiFi. So, I'm trying to reconnect the wired ethernet. As long as there is an active stream of data, it works (and handles the higher bandwidth), but once you go back to just watching regular TV, the "wired network disconnected" message starts popping up. To make it even more obnoxious, it apparently gracefully fails over the the WiFi but when the wired network "reconnects", it pops up a dialog box asking if you want to revert to wired network.
This just repeats ad nauseum about every 90 seconds. Needless to say, I yanked the ethernet.
Has anybody else had this problem? For all I know, I have a dodgy switch (although it is a brand new Netgear 5-port switch for the TV and Blu-Ray player, which in turn routes to a Cisco 16-port business-class switch, so it should be fine). No other piece of equipment on the network complains, so I'm assuming it's a problem with the TV.

I thought I was the only one. I had the same problem with the same switch (a new one) on the LM9600, did not experience the problem when used on the LM7600. I switched the switch (no pun intended) with a D-Link, problem solved.
post #138 of 381
Can anybody recommend any 3d calibrations? I have been watching 3d content under THX3d and I noticed the 3d settings are neutral. I'm looking for some pop. I'm excited to watch Avengers 3D!!!!!
post #139 of 381
Called Amazon today and going to switch it out hopefully i get a better set
post #140 of 381
Alright this is going to be a slight review and also some problems I am having that I am really hoping somoeone can help me with.

I calibrated the TV and the picture is phenominal, I watched UFC 152 in HD the other night and everyone was amazed at the picture quality, only issue I have is MAJOR backlight clouding issues, especially in the corners and in the middle it's almost marbled, I ordered another one and am actually exchanging it tomorrow.

The other problem I am having is MAJOR input delay problems I have it running through a Yamaha RX-V3800 receiver and the audio is way off, I have all of the processing turned off and I still have audio delay, I finally figured out the manual delay setting on the receiver and around 83ms is about dead on, which is fine until you try to watch something in 3D, I just got avengers in 3D and tried to watch it, the 3D looks fantastic but the audio is WAAAYYYYY off, I really don't want to have to go in my receiver and change the audio delay everytime I want to watch a 3D movie, I also tried putting it through just the tv speakers and there was still delay, like how is that even possible on this expensive of a TV?. Also as far as input lag, without game mode on playing video games is horrendous and I have ALL of the processing turned off, but then enabling game mode you can't use your calibrated settings which is also enraging.

Now the thing I really need help with is the audio delay which is explained above, my receiver has automatic audio delay, but it doesn't seem to work, I've read that you need to have it on the TV as well so they can communicate with each other, I don't know if this is true but any help would be greatly greatly appreciated, because if I could get the automatic audio delay to work then it would be a none issue and just adjust itself accordingly. This TV does seem to have an AV sync mode but only to manually adjust the tv speaker delay.
post #141 of 381
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Originally Posted by Infernus1948 View Post

Alright this is going to be a slight review and also some problems I am having that I am really hoping somoeone can help me with.
I calibrated the TV and the picture is phenominal, I watched UFC 152 in HD the other night and everyone was amazed at the picture quality, only issue I have is MAJOR backlight clouding issues, especially in the corners and in the middle it's almost marbled, I ordered another one and am actually exchanging it tomorrow.
The other problem I am having is MAJOR input delay problems I have it running through a Yamaha RX-V3800 receiver and the audio is way off, I have all of the processing turned off and I still have audio delay, I finally figured out the manual delay setting on the receiver and around 83ms is about dead on, which is fine until you try to watch something in 3D, I just got avengers in 3D and tried to watch it, the 3D looks fantastic but the audio is WAAAYYYYY off, I really don't want to have to go in my receiver and change the audio delay everytime I want to watch a 3D movie, I also tried putting it through just the tv speakers and there was still delay, like how is that even possible on this expensive of a TV?. Also as far as input lag, without game mode on playing video games is horrendous and I have ALL of the processing turned off, but then enabling game mode you can't use your calibrated settings which is also enraging.
Now the thing I really need help with is the audio delay which is explained above, my receiver has automatic audio delay, but it doesn't seem to work, I've read that you need to have it on the TV as well so they can communicate with each other, I don't know if this is true but any help would be greatly greatly appreciated, because if I could get the automatic audio delay to work then it would be a none issue and just adjust itself accordingly. This TV does seem to have an AV sync mode but only to manually adjust the tv speaker delay.

I can't help you with your sound problem cause i just have a sound bar but you could calibrate the settings in game mode.

Try this setting on game mode, gives the games more pop

backlight 55
contrast 85
brightness 50
sharpness 35
color 85
colortemp c1
dynamic color low
gamma medium
noise reduction low
black level low
eye care low
post #142 of 381
Alrighty then, who has some awesome 3D calibrations??!!! smile.gif
post #143 of 381
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Originally Posted by JTT23 View Post

I can't help you with your sound problem cause i just have a sound bar but you could calibrate the settings in game mode.
Try this setting on game mode, gives the games more pop
backlight 55
contrast 85
brightness 50
sharpness 35
color 85
colortemp c1
dynamic color low
gamma medium
noise reduction low
black level low
eye care low

Thanks I'll have to try that, but it's still not as good as the calibration settings in expert mode. Also if no one can help me figuring out the audio delay can people please post if they have any kind of sound delay? especially in 3D, because like I said I even have a really bad delay even if I just use the TV speakers as opposed to my home theater setup.
post #144 of 381
Come on nobody has messed with the 3d calibrations????
post #145 of 381
UPDATE: Got my exchange today and this TV was manufactured in August 2012, my old TV that i exchange was manufactured in july 2012. This set is way better then the one i had. First the edge bleeding on the bottom right is particularly gone, you could just see a faint of edge light. The blacks seems better to me. Input lag is way less now on standard and vivid mode but still better to play in game mode just adjust the picture settings. i dunno if its just me but picture looks better too. Overall i'm going to keep this set. i'm very satisfied with this TV, mind you this upgrade from a 4 year old Sharp Aquos LC-52D62U.


Infernus1948: I don't get any audio lag at all, i have a samsung sound bar and its connected to optical digital audio and in the input list menu i select external speakers. With my new tv i could barely see any input lag playing MW3 in different picture modes but its best to play in game mode.
post #146 of 381
Update for me as well, I exchanged the TV on Thursday, I'd have to say the backlighting is about 90% better, much more uniform with very minimal bleeding. BUT my sound delay is even worse, I have my receiver set to 130MS which is ridiculous, I'd really like to get this problem figured out but I'm all out of ideas.
post #147 of 381
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Originally Posted by kentgabel View Post

Come on nobody has messed with the 3d calibrations????

Are you looking for calibrations for like the 3D menu? I just left mine the same, as for the other settings I just used the same calibration settings from flatpanelshd that are linked to earlier in this thread, and turned off all of the processing, and it looks fantastic, I watched Avengers in 3D and it was just as good if not better than in the theater, mainly because it looked like Scarlett Johansson was in my living room lol.
post #148 of 381
I got my set exchanged last week but it looks like I got a worse screen than before. Also this one had a huge line on the screen. I decided to return the screen altogether since my 30 day was coming up.
post #149 of 381
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Originally Posted by Infernus1948 View Post

Update for me as well, I exchanged the TV on Thursday, I'd have to say the backlighting is about 90% better, much more uniform with very minimal bleeding. BUT my sound delay is even worse, I have my receiver set to 130MS which is ridiculous, I'd really like to get this problem figured out but I'm all out of ideas.

How do you have your receiver connected through optical digital input or HDMI???
post #150 of 381
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Originally Posted by JTT23 View Post

How do you have your receiver connected through optical digital input or HDMI???

I have my PVR and my media server connected to the receiver via HDMI and then HDMI to the TV, I have my PS3 connected directly to the TV then optical from the PS3 to the receiver, the only reason I have it like that is because my receiver does not support 3D video. Everything has the same audio delay approximately, unless i am trying to watch a 3D video, then the audio delay is even worse.
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