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post #211 of 381
Also, can anyone confirm if the input lag issues are sorted out. I tried playing a driving game last night and it seemed ok. I just don't want this to be a problem later on and I need to make a decision soon as to whether to get a refund on this TV and wait for something better.
post #212 of 381
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Originally Posted by adamdot78 View Post

Thanks Luigo. I have tried calibrating. Using the flatpanelshd settings and also trying different combos. I've managed to get it looking good in expert modes. I still see noticable vertical banding and some light bleed. Light bleed is particularly when i set it to game mode for my PS3. i ran the AVS HD 709 calibration tools. Here is an image of the TV in full dark room with the black test pattern from the AVS HD software running through my PS3.

I'm still not sure whether to return the TV. I've ordered some antec bias lighting which I hope will help with the light bleeding. To be honest, i'm more concerned with the vertical banding issues.
It's one of those things I guess. There's so much I love about the TV but given I won't be able to replace it for a few years I don't want to spend those years constantly annoyed by the problems.


My LM9600 panel has some brightness in the lower right corner. Drives me crazy during letterbox movies.. Seems to be related to the frame and tightness they used to set the screen in. If you grab the frame on both corners and give a slight twist the screen goes normal dark.

Now that I lost the "Off" control for the "Led Local Dimming" setting... And Since I seem to be the only one with this issue I'm afraid it's a bad board somewhere. Best Buy is dropping off a replacement set this Sunday.. So now it's "Russian Roulette" as to wheather I now get a good panel or not.

After seeing your photo, I would recommend exchanging your TV if you can. If you don't you may regret it later. smile.gif


*Just curiouse... What is your build date month?

Interesting Info;

http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/backlight-bleeding.php

*Backlight Bleed Test;

http://youtu.be/WexJRnud32U
Edited by badabing - 11/28/12 at 9:41am
post #213 of 381
I'll need to check the TV when I get home but I'm pretty sure the build month was September 2012. I remember looking at it when I bought it as I'd read somewhere else that alter built TV's might have had some slightly different hardware to help address any issues. I'll check for sure tonight. The bleeding isn't really a problem on any mode except game mode. I think it's related to game mode disabling the TrueMotion plus stuff. Obvisouly I don't want the image processing happening and creating input lag but at the same time when I'm playing a dark game I don't want glowing from the corners either. I don't think I'm expecting too much to have reasonable input lag and no clouding am I?
post #214 of 381
I remembered I had a photo of the tag on my phone. I've blanked out the serial number because I'm slightly paranoid about putting stuff like that on the web. As you can see it just lists Manufactured: September 2012. Not sure which is the SVC Code. Remember, I'm in Australia so it may be slightly different. Not sure.

post #215 of 381


*Here's a THX Picture Unlock tip;

Purchase a regular LG remote control like (AKB72914050) as pictured above (eBay).

Press Menu > Picture > And Highlight THX Cinema or THX Bright Room in Red > Now press code 8741 from the remote controls keypad.

THX has to be highlighted in Red while already selected and sitting in the Picture menu, not while in the picture mode selection drop down box.

This will unlock the locked out THX picture settings so you can tweak them if needed. I found this very useful in tweaking "Tint" when watching Comcast Movies channels that were not broadcasting the original color correctly. Same for DVD & Blu Rays. Just zero the "Tint" etc, other tweaked settings back out to where they were when your done watching.
Edited by badabing - 11/28/12 at 10:21pm
post #216 of 381
this vertical banding especially while watching sport seems to be quite prevelant -swopping tvs or adjusting settings seems to make no difference .Does anybody out there or from LG have a answer to this ?
post #217 of 381
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Originally Posted by ollie d View Post

this vertical banding especially while watching sport seems to be quite prevelant -swopping tvs or adjusting settings seems to make no difference .Does anybody out there or from LG have a answer to this ?

Could someone please post a photo of this "Vertical Banding".. I am not seeing it? Thanks.
post #218 of 381
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Originally Posted by adamdot78 View Post

I remembered I had a photo of the tag on my phone. I've blanked out the serial number because I'm slightly paranoid about putting stuff like that on the web. As you can see it just lists Manufactured: September 2012. Not sure which is the SVC Code. Remember, I'm in Australia so it may be slightly different. Not sure.

I contacted LG. They provided me with a much easier way to find out the TV's build date of a 55LM9600 just by the first three digits of the Serial Number that is printed on the Box.

205xxxxxxxxx = May
206xxxxxxxxx = June
207xxxxxxxxx = July
208xxxxxxxxx = August
209xxxxxxxxx = September
210xxxxxxxxx = October

And so forth... smile.gif
Edited by badabing - 11/29/12 at 9:05am
post #219 of 381
Easier than "Manufactured: September 2012"? wink.gif
post #220 of 381
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Originally Posted by adamdot78 View Post

Easier than "Manufactured: September 2012"? wink.gif

Well, I called today about my replacement TV that is coming this Weekend. All of the LM9600's in stock are the same as mine... June 2012 (206 Serial Number Code). Will see what happens when it arrives... frown.gif
post #221 of 381
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Originally Posted by badabing View Post

Well, I called today about my replacement TV that is coming this Weekend. All of the LM9600's in stock are the same as mine... June 2012 (206 Serial Number Code). Will see what happens when it arrives... frown.gif

Mine was manufactured in June and since I calibrated it and updated the firmware in August I have had a nice picture. I see no banding that others have been talking about, but maybe a little before calibrating. I do have some some light bleed when the picture is totally dark, but only in the corners a slightly. I never notice it while watching a show or anything else.
post #222 of 381
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Originally Posted by Luigo View Post

Mine was manufactured in June and since I calibrated it and updated the firmware in August I have had a nice picture. I see no banding that others have been talking about, but maybe a little before calibrating. I do have some some light bleed when the picture is totally dark, but only in the corners a slightly. I never notice it while watching a show or anything else.


I'm on firmware 4.12.27... The LM7600 folks recently got 04.22.00 and then shortly after there now at 04.30.01. I give Kudos to LG for sending out updates.. Seems the LM9600 is last to get them though.

I was playing around with the Flash browser and playing several embedded flash videos. The video will play ok but if you jump it or slide it to forward the video the picture disappears and won't come back except if restarted at the beginning by refreshing the page. I hope an improved Flash version is in one of these newer firmware versions.

The light bleed is bothersome but the TV does so much I like I guess it's a trade off.... All TV's from all manufactures have issues.. Just read any post from another brand and folks are complaining about something. lol

FYI... When I called the warehouse to talk about my replacement LM9600 the delivery guy told me that Samsung's come back the most and that the LG's hardly do. I find it hard to believe but he told me it was do to the fact more people by the Samsungs over any other brand including Sony and Panasonic.
Edited by badabing - 11/29/12 at 8:13pm
post #223 of 381
It could just be a versioning thing. There may be different versions for different models. Probably even different versions for different countries. Here in Australia the latest is 4.00.20. http://www.lg.com/au/support-product/lg-55LM9600

I don't know if we're behind or if it's just the current version but for Australia. Impossible to work out too when LG don't release any change logs for each version.
post #224 of 381
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Originally Posted by badabing View Post

Could someone please post a photo of this "Vertical Banding".. I am not seeing it? Thanks.
its difficult to post a photo as it only occurs in moving shots as the camera pans across a sports field as the action moves -it doesnt occur in close up zoomed shots but only when basically viewing the whole field
post #225 of 381
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Originally Posted by adamdot78 View Post

Also, can anyone confirm if the input lag issues are sorted out. I tried playing a driving game last night and it seemed ok. I just don't want this to be a problem later on and I need to make a decision soon as to whether to get a refund on this TV and wait for something better.

I'm not sure what system you have (PS3, XBOX). But there are a few things you can try.

(1) Rename the Input name of the input your game system is on to PC and keep Game for the picture mode choice.

(2) a lot of folks have been getting great results on LCD's by switching out the HDMI for a VGA cable. I would suggest giving the VGA cable a try if #1 doesn't do it. Again, keep Game for the picture mode but rename the VGA input to PC. smile.gif



Edited by badabing - 12/1/12 at 6:30am
post #226 of 381
I've had ongoing problems with Netflix and other apps causing my TV to reboot. Finally got LG to replace the main board in my TV. Well, the issue did not go away. I'm now thinking the issue is with my dLink dir825 router. I have issues wired or wireless. Who uses Netflix and what exact router are you using? Thanks. SJ
post #227 of 381
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Originally Posted by SJHT View Post

I've had ongoing problems with Netflix and other apps causing my TV to reboot. Finally got LG to replace the main board in my TV. Well, the issue did not go away. I'm now thinking the issue is with my dLink dir825 router. I have issues wired or wireless. Who uses Netflix and what exact router are you using? Thanks. SJ
hi. i have LG5LM7600. and i think it is really the netflix app from the tv itself is the problem. not the internet or the modem. my tv is wired from my router and every time i watch netflix from the tv app my tv will get froze every time i press the fast forward of jump to the other chapter of the movie and i cannot do anything from the tv rather to turn it off and on again. and when i watch netflix from my ps3 i dont get any problem even i press the fast forward or jump to another chapter. dats why i dont use LG apps anymore.
post #228 of 381
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

hi. i have LG5LM7600. and i think it is really the netflix app from the tv itself is the problem. not the internet or the modem. my tv is wired from my router and every time i watch netflix from the tv app my tv will get froze every time i press the fast forward of jump to the other chapter of the movie and i cannot do anything from the tv rather to turn it off and on again. and when i watch netflix from my ps3 i dont get any problem even i press the fast forward or jump to another chapter. dats why i dont use LG apps anymore.
Interesting. We also have lots of other ways of watching Netflix and don't have any problems. I searched and there are compatabilty issues between dlink and LG, so I wondered whether that my the issue. SJ
post #229 of 381
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Originally Posted by adamdot78 View Post

Also, can anyone confirm if the input lag issues are sorted out. I tried playing a driving game last night and it seemed ok. I just don't want this to be a problem later on and I need to make a decision soon as to whether to get a refund on this TV and wait for something better.

I do a lot of gaming on my PS3 and Wii U, i don't get any input lag on game mode.

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Originally Posted by SJHT View Post

Interesting. We also have lots of other ways of watching Netflix and don't have any problems. I searched and there are compatabilty issues between dlink and LG, so I wondered whether that my the issue. SJ

I spend hours on Netflix and never once my TV crash, most likely its your router. I have a Belkin router. They are going to have service maintenance tomorrow for LG app see after that service how your Netflix is and if its still crashes, try a different router
Edited by JTT23 - 12/1/12 at 8:30am
post #230 of 381
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Originally Posted by JTT23 View Post

I do a lot of gaming on my PS3 and Wii U, i don't get any input lag on game mode.
I spend hours on Netflix and never once my TV crash, most likely its your router. I have a Belkin router. They are going to have service maintenance tomorrow for LG app see after that service how your Netflix is and if its still crashes, try a different router

i dont think so its the router problem. my tv is connected wired from my router and also my ps3 also connected wired from my router. and ps3 netflix is better compare to LG tv. and also the picture quality from the PS3 too much sharper than LG netfilx.
post #231 of 381
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

i dont think so its the router problem. my tv is connected wired from my router and also my ps3 also connected wired from my router. and ps3 netflix is better compare to LG tv. and also the picture quality from the PS3 too much sharper than LG netfilx.

Might be his internet speed. I have't compare the PS3 netflix to LG's but the ps3 is probably better cause you could change the picture setting to expert. With the Netflix app on LG you could just adjust the picture quality to standard, cinema, game and vivid, from there you could change the preset.
post #232 of 381
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Originally Posted by JTT23 View Post

Might be his internet speed. I have't compare the PS3 netflix to LG's but the ps3 is probably better cause you could change the picture setting to expert. With the Netflix app on LG you could just adjust the picture quality to standard, cinema, game and vivid, from there you could change the preset.
this is correct. there is no expert 1 and expert 2 on LG netfilx app. that is why i dont use the LG netflix app. my set is already ISF Professional Calibrated and i have now ISF Day and ISF Night.
post #233 of 381
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Originally Posted by JTT23 View Post

I do a lot of gaming on my PS3 and Wii U, i don't get any input lag on game mode.
I spend hours on Netflix and never once my TV crash, most likely its your router. I have a Belkin router. They are going to have service maintenance tomorrow for LG app see after that service how your Netflix is and if its still crashes, try a different router

My TV will even sometimes reboot for no reason even if I'm watching DISH just through HDMI. That doesn't occur very often, but it does even with a brand new main board on the TV. I really think it might be my router, but don't have any other issues with it. I have a support question into dLink about it. I also just switched it to a static IP address to see if that helps..... SJ
Edited by SJHT - 12/1/12 at 3:29pm
post #234 of 381
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Originally Posted by SJHT View Post

Interesting. We also have lots of other ways of watching Netflix and don't have any problems. I searched and there are compatabilty issues between dlink and LG, so I wondered whether that my the issue. SJ

I have never had a problem watching Netflix with the app on the TV, except if my son and I both were online gaming at the same time. I have a Netgear router with Dual-band simultaneous tranmissions. I put my TV and laptop on the 5GHz channel and everything else on the 2.4GHz and Netflix it runs smooth. I also have Cox Internet with around 14-20MBs speed.
post #235 of 381
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Originally Posted by Luigo View Post

I have never had a problem watching Netflix with the app on the TV, except if my son and I both were online gaming at the same time. I have a Netgear router with Dual-band simultaneous tranmissions. I put my TV and laptop on the 5GHz channel and everything else on the 2.4GHz and Netflix it runs smooth. I also have Cox Internet with around 14-20MBs speed.

When you have a "problem" what is it? Thanks for the info. SJ
post #236 of 381
Just thought i would pass this on. I got it off a recent review. They tested TruMotion and mentioned that these settings below provided the least amount of artifacting and worked the best.

*TruMotion: "User"
User; De-Judder: 0 (Zero)
User; De-Blur: 10 (Ten)
post #237 of 381
Well,

I received my second replacement 55LM9600, it's the (USA) Model. The lower right corner has a very bright spot.. The other corners have less. frown.gif

I have 100% Confirmed that after being Forced, yes Forced to updating to 04.20.18 to use any Premium Apps like VUDU etc... I have lost the ability to turn LED Local Dimming to "Off". This appears to be the case "only" for the USA 55LM9600. As other countries and models seem not be effected.

USA 55LM9600 owners beware of software 04.20.18. frown.gif
post #238 of 381
Guyz,

PLz PLz help me... as i have changed all the settings on my TV and still face a problem when in 3D mode.

If i max out the "3D viewpoint to 10" the image starts resetting every now & then. Its visible with glasses and without as well...

So you watching 3D content its working properly then in some scenes image shifts for a second then turn to normal.... the best work to describe would be its Resetting image.

Please can you try this on your TV and report back ?
post #239 of 381
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Originally Posted by badabing View Post

Well,
I received my second replacement 55LM9600, it's the (USA) Model. The lower right corner has a very bright spot.. The other corners have less. frown.gif
I have 100% Confirmed that after being Forced, yes Forced to updating to 04.20.18 to use any Premium Apps like VUDU etc... I have lost the ability to turn LED Local Dimming to "Off". This appears to be the case "only" for the USA 55LM9600. As other countries and models seem not be effected.
USA 55LM9600 owners beware of software 04.20.18. frown.gif

Hey badabing, I can confirm that my 9600 here in Australia doesn't have the ability to turn off local dimming. Only low, medium or high is available.
post #240 of 381
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Originally Posted by badabing View Post

Could someone please post a photo of this "Vertical Banding".. I am not seeing it? Thanks.
This photo shows the banding pretty well. (not my tv, just one I found while searching).
http://s564.beta.photobucket.com/user/link1422/media/LG%20%2055LM9600/IMG_1164.jpg.html?sort=6&o=0
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