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post #241 of 381
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Originally Posted by badabing View Post

Just thought i would pass this on. I got it off a recent review. They tested TruMotion and mentioned that these settings below provided the least amount of artifacting and worked the best.
*TruMotion: "User"
User; De-Judder: 0 (Zero)
User; De-Blur: 10 (Ten)


I have to have TruMotion on smooth now for everything i watch, my eyes got use to it. The picture just looks better to me. When i have it off things move slow to me also the picture quality drops. I don't see any artifacting.
post #242 of 381
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Originally Posted by adamdot78 View Post

Hey badabing, I can confirm that my 9600 here in Australia doesn't have the ability to turn off local dimming. Only low, medium or high is available.

Oh, I thought someone here replied that they still had it after the update. The LM7600's folks still have it, so they probably just removed it for the LM9600. Why they got of rid for us makes no sense unless the firmware is messed up. frown.gif

Set #3 coming next week. The flashlighting in the corners is really bad on this one.
Edited by badabing - 12/4/12 at 9:44am
post #243 of 381
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Originally Posted by JTT23 View Post

I have to have TruMotion on smooth now for everything i watch, my eyes got use to it. The picture just looks better to me. When i have it off things move slow to me also the picture quality drops. I don't see any artifacting.

Oh good. smile.gif
post #244 of 381
anyone know if the 60LM9600 still coming out?
post #245 of 381
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Originally Posted by badabing View Post

Oh, I thought someone here replied that they still had it after the update. The LM7600's folks still have it, so they probably just removed it for the LM9600. Why they got of rid for us makes no sense unless the firmware is messed up. frown.gif
Set #3 coming next week. The flashlighting in the corners is really bad on this one.

I just picked up a new TV today after taking my old one back. I've turned it on and it has software v3.01.06 installed. This version definitely has the ability to turn local dimming OFF. I'm going to run it for a while, calibrate it and see how it goes before I upgrade the firmware. I can live without any of the smart TV features for now. I don't really use them anyway. I'm pretty sure the majority of updates are just updates to the smart TV features. For me the best picture is the most important.
post #246 of 381
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Originally Posted by adamdot78 View Post

I just picked up a new TV today after taking my old one back. I've turned it on and it has software v3.01.06 installed. This version definitely has the ability to turn local dimming OFF. I'm going to run it for a while, calibrate it and see how it goes before I upgrade the firmware. I can live without any of the smart TV features for now. I don't really use them anyway. I'm pretty sure the majority of updates are just updates to the smart TV features. For me the best picture is the most important.

Trust me, version 04.22.00 will pop up and once downloaded you lose led local dimming off. The firmware is not on the website, it comes from the TV's connection.

I am exchanging my LM9600 tomorrow for a Samsung 60ES8000. I just can't live with the LM9600's bright corners while watching letterbox movies. These panels are a crap shoot and I'm done. If I got a good panel I would have kept it.
post #247 of 381
I decided that local haivng local dimming wasn't helping or hurting anything that I could tell so I decided to update to the latest firmware. I had local dimming set to off when I performed the update. To my surprise, when the update completed. I still had the option to turn local dimming off. It's still off right now. I'm currently running v 4.00.13 which is the latest here in Australia. I know I didn't have the option on the TV I took back. I'm wondering if you set it to off before you update that you still get the option after the update. The only way to confirm it would be to get another TV or manually back rev the software. I'm probably not going to do either as I'm pretty happy with the new TV so far. Can anyone else confirm this?
post #248 of 381
If folks don't want local dimming aren't there other models which don't feature this or am I missing something? SJ
post #249 of 381
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Originally Posted by jh87 View Post

anyone know if the 60LM9600 still coming out?

All the stores that I've talked to have told me that the 9600 series is done and discontinued. One store mentioned it was due to 'poor interest'. Don't wait, it's not coming. I'm still waiting for my 55LM9600 that I bought on November 4th. Future Shop-Worst customer service ever.mad.gif However they did tell me the new model of my tv was $16 000! This must be the a OLED tv I would think.
post #250 of 381
As of right now, Amazon has these 'in stock' for $2049.00. Lowest price I've seen so far. If anyone is still interested, of course.......
post #251 of 381
Well I finally got my 55LM9600 from Future Shop:) I checked the light bleed immediately and discovered I could only barely see it in a completely dark room while wearing the 3D glasses. Had to really, really look for it. So I'm happy! It was built in September with software 04.20.18. And I can turn both TruMotion and Local dimming off . The blacks look close to my Pioneer Kuro. Which I was surprised, it's much better then what some people have said. Now to calibrate it and add my Darbee Darblet. So far with just my Oppo BDP103 Blu ray player everything looks fantastic.
post #252 of 381
Does the 55LM9600 have the same remote as the 8600 with scroll and voice input?

Also, is it dual core?


Thanks
post #253 of 381
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Originally Posted by musical123 View Post

Does the 55LM9600 have the same remote as the 8600 with scroll and voice input?
Also, is it dual core?
Thanks

Yes, it's the next model up from the 8600 and comes with scroll, voice and dual core. Main difference is 400hz as opposed to 200hz on the 8600.
post #254 of 381
Thanks

Couple more questions:

I saw the 8600 and hated Tru-Motion, but it allows you to turn it off. Does the 9600 have Tru-Motion and can you turn it off?

Overall does the 9600 have better picture over the 8600?

Any other concerns - should I get the 9600 or 8600?


Thanks again
post #255 of 381
The 9600 allows you to turn off tru motion and also create a user setting for de-judder and de-blur. SJ
post #256 of 381
I'm about to head to the store right now and buy this TV. I've been struggling for a couple of weeks between the LG 55LM7600 and the Panasonic TC-P55GT50 but in the end I was ready to go for the LM7600 mostly because I don't want to be paranoid about IR while gaming and the passive 3D sounds like a friendlier 3D experience. Then I saw a pretty nice price this week on the LM9600 so I started reading through everything I can find on it. I really really want to like this set but I'll admit some of these comments have me worried. I currently have a 5 year old Sony Bravia KDL-40XBR5 and it has the flashlighting and even some clouding but I never really stare at the black screen to see those things (although admittedly, when I first bought the set I did). I guess my biggest concern is this input lag I keep hearing about which until I stumbled across that in the FlatpanelsHD Review. I wouldn't have even known to check that in a set before buying if I had not read that either. lol. Some say it's still present in recent reviews, some say no. Anyway, I'm heading out the door now to take my chances on a good one and when I come back I guess I'll officially be part of the small 9600 family. Wish me luck!!
post #257 of 381
Good luck. And keep us posted.
post #258 of 381
Ok guys I've been home with my new 55LM9600 for over an hour now.

While reading through the forum I laughed when Adamdot78 gave us the easy way to tell the build date by serial number and then Adamdot78 said "easier than September 2012?" Truth be told though, Adamdot78 gave some really useful info because the serial number is on the outside of the box but I did not see a manufacture date on the outside so I knew I had a July build without even opening it. My store only had that one in stock so even i wanted to try to go back for an exchange for a later build, it wasn't happening tonight, so I tore the box open and put the stand on.

When I turned it on for the first time I did notice some flashlighting at the corners. Maybe that's not the right word for this set because I came from a Sony Bravia XBR5 and the flashlighting was definitely more of a flashlight pattern wheras these were just kind of lighter spots in uneven patterns. Anyway, I didn't think it was too bad and I remember after calibrating the Sony the flashlighting was at a very acceptable and non distracting level, so I was wasn't worried and was pretty confident that I could minimize that through settings posted here.

I let it update twice to get me to the current version.

My Xbox 360, My PC, and My PS3 all route through a home theater system via HDMI right now and then out to the TV in HDMI 1. (I will have to change this later and at least connect my PS3 directly to the TV because my theater system, Sony HT-IS100, is not 3D ready as I researched that prior to buying the LM9600. For now though, that's how it's staying since I don't have any 3D content anyway) I have my cable box on HDMI 2 with and optical cable running back to the theater system for cable box sound.

First thing I did after the updates, was turn the Xbox 360 on because this will be on most of the time. (I even have a cable card hooked up to my computer and I watch TV through the Windows Media Center using XBox, so between, gaming, Netflix, and live or TV from the Media Center, my XBox is on for 90% of my TV usage.) Leaving the input at HDMI 1, I immediately put the picture mode to Game and started playing around. I did not use any professional tests, but I did not notice any lag time at all with my movements on the controller and what was happening on the screen so if there is some going on it's negligible and certainly wouldn't take away from my experience. (however when I get shot and killed online playing Halo, I may still blame the dumb TV just so the blame goes somewhere!!) I was then going to start dialing in settings for game mode but when I looked at the settings on the review at FlatPanelsHD (http://flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1338560188) they were using expert1. So, being concerned about potential lag I renamed my HDMI to PC because I thought I read in these pages that it helps and then proceeded to calibrate as best I could to the recommended FlatPanelsHD setup. I think there might have been a setting that wasn't available (maybe because of the PC name of the input?) and I think there might have been a color setting at 50 that I didn't see mentioned in that review so I left it alone. I then checked response time again with my controller and I noticed no lag at all with the input named as PC and picture mode as Expert 1. I then checked the screen again with dark screen and the flashlighting/light spots were almost gone and hardly a bother to at all.

So far I am very happy with this set and look forward to sharing more of my experience here. That's all for now; I have a new LM9600 to play with.

P.S. I really don't like the remote and will definitely be buying the one I saw posted somewhere in these pages or maybe another forum.
post #259 of 381
Since my PC is hooked up to my TV (albeit through a Sony HT-IS100 Home theater system) I decided to try the lag test through FlatPanelsHD. I actually posted results earlier but stupid me was pausing before taking the picture so of course I saw no lag in the picture lol. Anyway, this is my photo. I tried for 26 minutes to take one that actually showed numbers instead of blur but my camera phone just doesn't have a fast enough shutter speed so this is the best I could do. This picture was taken with the input label named PC but my picture mode is on Expert1 (not game). Maybe that number says 100ish on my TV and maybe that says 150ish on the computer screen but honestly it's hard to tell in any pic I took. When moving my mouse around I don't see anything funny going on and it feels responsive to me so maybe for people like me that like to play video games for fun and not professionally or something, this is fine. Like I said, my experience playing last night was great on this new TV and if anything, I felt like it was more responsive than my 5 year old Sony KDL-40XBR5 so no complaints.

As a side note: you can see that even with 1920 x 1080 selected as my monitor resolution, that it does not take advantage of the full screen as is evident by the black bars around the picuture. My last 40 inch TV did take advantage of the full screen so maybe this screen is too big and it's a limitation of my graphics card (ATI Radeon 4870 x 2 I believe) Anyway, I suppose I could zoom in but it was just something I noticed.





Edited by ASiani - 12/22/12 at 7:57am
post #260 of 381
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Originally Posted by ASiani View Post

Ok guys I've been home with my new 55LM9600 for over an hour now.
While reading through the forum I laughed when Adamdot78 gave us the easy way to tell the build date by serial number and then Adamdot78 said "easier than September 2012?" Truth be told though, Adamdot78 gave some really useful info because the serial number is on the outside of the box but I did not see a manufacture date on the outside so I knew I had a July build without even opening it. My store only had that one in stock so even i wanted to try to go back for an exchange for a later build, it wasn't happening tonight, so I tore the box open and put the stand on.
When I turned it on for the first time I did notice some flashlighting at the corners. Maybe that's not the right word for this set because I came from a Sony Bravia XBR5 and the flashlighting was definitely more of a flashlight pattern wheras these were just kind of lighter spots in uneven patterns. Anyway, I didn't think it was too bad and I remember after calibrating the Sony the flashlighting was at a very acceptable and non distracting level, so I was wasn't worried and was pretty confident that I could minimize that through settings posted here.
I let it update twice to get me to the current version.
My Xbox 360, My PC, and My PS3 all route through a home theater system via HDMI right now and then out to the TV in HDMI 1. (I will have to change this later and at least connect my PS3 directly to the TV because my theater system, Sony HT-IS100, is not 3D ready as I researched that prior to buying the LM9600. For now though, that's how it's staying since I don't have any 3D content anyway) I have my cable box on HDMI 2 with and optical cable running back to the theater system for cable box sound.
First thing I did after the updates, was turn the Xbox 360 on because this will be on most of the time. (I even have a cable card hooked up to my computer and I watch TV through the Windows Media Center using XBox, so between, gaming, Netflix, and live or TV from the Media Center, my XBox is on for 90% of my TV usage.) Leaving the input at HDMI 1, I immediately put the picture mode to Game and started playing around. I did not use any professional tests, but I did not notice any lag time at all with my movements on the controller and what was happening on the screen so if there is some going on it's negligible and certainly wouldn't take away from my experience. (however when I get shot and killed online playing Halo, I may still blame the dumb TV just so the blame goes somewhere!!) I was then going to start dialing in settings for game mode but when I looked at the settings on the review at FlatPanelsHD (http://flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1338560188) they were using expert1. So, being concerned about potential lag I renamed my HDMI to PC because I thought I read in these pages that it helps and then proceeded to calibrate as best I could to the recommended FlatPanelsHD setup. I think there might have been a setting that wasn't available (maybe because of the PC name of the input?) and I think there might have been a color setting at 50 that I didn't see mentioned in that review so I left it alone. I then checked response time again with my controller and I noticed no lag at all with the input named as PC and picture mode as Expert 1. I then checked the screen again with dark screen and the flashlighting/light spots were almost gone and hardly a bother to at all.
So far I am very happy with this set and look forward to sharing more of my experience here. That's all for now; I have a new LM9600 to play with.
P.S. I really don't like the remote and will definitely be buying the one I saw posted somewhere in these pages or maybe another forum.

A couple of questions... Two years ago I bought the LG Infinia 55LX9500. While not a "perfect" tv, I do like it very much. No problems what so ever. The only minor complaint I might have is very slight "banding" visible during panning scenes with a white background. Do you see any such banding on yours? Also, I see you are from Phila and you said you bought it locally, can you tell me which store had the best deal on your 55LM9600? I am thinking of getting another LG 55". Also, I don't know if you tried this yet, but if I were to connect my cable box via HDMI cable to the LM9600 and then use optical from the tv to the Home Theater sound system, do you know if the tv will pass Dolby Digital 5.1 out to the Home Theater sound system? Thanks.
post #261 of 381
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Originally Posted by knobe View Post

A couple of questions... Two years ago I bought the LG Infinia 55LX9500. While not a "perfect" tv, I do like it very much. No problems what so ever. The only minor complaint I might have is very slight "banding" visible during panning scenes with a white background. Do you see any such banding on yours? Also, I see you are from Phila and you said you bought it locally, can you tell me which store had the best deal on your 55LM9600? I am thinking of getting another LG 55". Also, I don't know if you tried this yet, but if I were to connect my cable box via HDMI cable to the LM9600 and then use optical from the tv to the Home Theater sound system, do you know if the tv will pass Dolby Digital 5.1 out to the Home Theater sound system? Thanks.

I haven't watched any movies yet. I did watch some Netflix last night and all I remember thinking was that it was a really good standard definition picture but I will pay attention to panning in light scenes and see I notice any banding. Edit: I put some show on oil drilling on because they were showing a lot of sky shots and light scenes and notice no vertical banding.

In answer to your question, as someone else posted above, the going price on Amazon last night was $2049. Since the local Big Box stores are price matching with Amazon for the holidays, I went online and saw they had on in stock in Princeton, NJ so I took a ride out there last night. Sure I had to pay almost $150 more because of $.07 sales tax in Jersey but I have off the next 5 days and kind of wanted to bring it home last night so I did. BTW the people at the store totally freaked out when I told them what the price match was.

Right now I have my cable box hooked up exactly like yours and my Home Theater is only detecting 2.0 stereo sound so I need to figure out why and get back to you but I can't imagine this TV doesn't output cable box sound in DD.

Edit: I unplugged the optical cable from the TV and put it in the back of the cable box instead and now my receiver is showing 5.1 for cable so either the TV won't do it or I'm missing a setting that will allow the DD to pass through.
Edited by ASiani - 12/22/12 at 7:47am
post #262 of 381
Is there a way to calibrate this magic remote? When I point at the screen the curser is waaaay to the right and somewhat low.

Edit: Ok I see you just have to move the remote to the edge of the screen to get it to line up.
Edited by ASiani - 12/24/12 at 9:01am
post #263 of 381
Well it's pretty quiet around here but just to update my expierience it turns out my uneven backlighting was more annoying than I first thought even after adjusting some settings. Rather than take the chance and gamble on another panel I decided it was officially time to give plasma a try. I just swapped for a TC-P60GT50. I got 5 more inches of TV and another $150 back in my pocket. Good luck everyone!
post #264 of 381
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Originally Posted by ASiani View Post

Is there a way to calibrate this magic remote? When I point at the screen the curser is waaaay to the right and somewhat low.
Edit: Ok I see you just have to move the remote to the edge of the screen to get it to line up.

Also, if you point the remote to the center of the screen and shake it side-to-side a few times the cursor will center on the screen automatically.
post #265 of 381
New update available 04.31.30
post #266 of 381
Hello everyone.

I am thinking about buying the LM9600 thru amazon.

My Sony XBR4 and my sound system bit the dust (due to a power surge) and I think after seeing the television in a few stores I've been sold on it.

Couple of quick questions for the people on this thread.

Only thing I will be using the television for is playing ps3 games, watching blurays and cable via a wall connection (not a cable box)

I won't have a sound system for a few months. No one here in the stores in my town can answer this question.

Are the speakers that are built into the TV semi decent? Are they back firing or down firing? One guy a Fry's told me the TV was basically a big sub-woofer with two tweeters and the sound is funneled out / projected from the back of the TV to you.

Also should I go with the maximum 5 year extended warranty or just the 1 year manufactures warranty?
post #267 of 381
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Originally Posted by ThePhantomMoose View Post

Hello everyone.
I am thinking about buying the LM9600 thru amazon.
My Sony XBR4 and my sound system bit the dust (due to a power surge) and I think after seeing the television in a few stores I've been sold on it.
Couple of quick questions for the people on this thread.
Only thing I will be using the television for is playing ps3 games, watching blurays and cable via a wall connection (not a cable box)
I won't have a sound system for a few months. No one here in the stores in my town can answer this question.
Are the speakers that are built into the TV semi decent? Are they back firing or down firing? One guy a Fry's told me the TV was basically a big sub-woofer with two tweeters and the sound is funneled out / projected from the back of the TV to you.
Also should I go with the maximum 5 year extended warranty or just the 1 year manufactures warranty?



I would say that the stock speakers are somewhat decent, though I may eventually get a soundbar. I usually watch all sorts of sports, and only keep the volume at 8 or 9. The speakers are back-firing. As for the extended warranty....that's your call. Several places offer a 5-year warranty, at prices that vary greatly. I believe Amazon has a fair price on the warranty. I bought this TV with a 5-year warranty back in July all for $2700, and thought I got a steal. Should have been a little more patient. Good luck & have a happy New Year.
post #268 of 381
Speakers are not that great but you could survive for couple months till you get your sound bar. Warranty is always a good thing to have.
post #269 of 381
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New update available 04.31.30

For which country? I can't find any info on it...do you know what is updated?
post #270 of 381
Thanks for all the replies.

One other question.

Does the TV come with both a magic wand and a regular remote or do I have to go out a buy a regular remote?
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