or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Video Components › Home Theater Computers › HTPC - Mac Chat › JRiver Media Center on Mac
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

JRiver Media Center on Mac

post #1 of 46
Thread Starter 
EDIT -- We've released an audio only Mac Version. More on our forum:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=31.0


I've just started a poll on our site, asking if people are interested in a Mac version.

POLL: Would you buy MC on OS X ?

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Edited by jriver - 11/20/13 at 11:00am
post #2 of 46
I probably would. But I don't want to register for you site just to vote.
I think it would be a great idea - certainly itunes can be improved upon.
Step 1 - put in a real database engine so large libraries can be easily handled
post #3 of 46
Thread Starter 
Thanks. We think we have the best database available for media files. Here's how it stacks up against iTunes:
http://www.jriver.com/speed.html
post #4 of 46
You would get a bunch of Mac customers with one of your features alone: Blu-ray playback, if you can do it directly, without having to transcode/rip the Blu-ray disk first.
post #5 of 46
if your software was available for Mac,then I would have kept my Mac-mini.
Returned it after 2 weeks due to my frustration at not having a software
Solution such as yours.
post #6 of 46
I have both PCs AND Macs in my household. The only reason I continue to have PCs is to natively run JRiver Media Center. So yes... I would buy a Mac version of JRiver Media Center in a heartbeat! Please bring it on! smile.gif
post #7 of 46
Absolutely. But only if it can play Blu-ray iso's from my network server and bitstream the lossless audio to my pre-amp via hdmi.
post #8 of 46
If it could play Blu-ray iso's I would absolutely buy it.

3D Blu-ray iso's and I'd probably even pay you in advance : )

The lossless audio would be nice, but not a deal killer for me.
post #9 of 46
I'd get it as soon as it was available... just for audio management. Any video solutions would just be gravy.
post #10 of 46
Thread Starter 
Early Bird Licenses are available now:
http://www.jriver.com/mac.html

Expect First Look (Still Rough) versions by February 22.
post #11 of 46
Quote from www.jriver.com :
"6. It will be audio-only for the first year."

I very much doubt many Mac users will pay $49.98 or even $24.98 (Early Bird) just for an iTunes alternative.
Although I would love to see a native replacement for Front Row on OS X, I use it 99% for videos, so your initial version falls short of my goal, sorry.
post #12 of 46
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the feedback. We intend to add video in the future.
post #13 of 46
Better to wait until it is video capable than to release a half baked product into the market and milk customers for a half completed product.

Remember-many mac owners are fully aware that video codec support is one area that OSX falls short on and is the hardest to implement in a paid for product, so luanching a product and asking customers to pony up dollars with the "promise" of it materializing in the future is problematic. How many times have folks here been bit by the un-materialized CE manufacturers promise of future (un-finished) functionality for it only to become vaporware. That behavior out of the industry leaves a bad taste in ones mouth. Remember the saying: "Fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me"?
post #14 of 46
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your advice. We're far enough along, that failure is not an option. We will release a First Look player on February 22.
post #15 of 46
Yeah, without video, don't expect Mac users to buy it.

For me, the only way I'd switch from Plex to JRMC on my OS X machines would be if it offered me something that Plex doesn't.

Namely:

1) Improved playback -- I still feel that MPC-HC w/ MadVR on my Windows HTPC's provides better video playback than Plex on m OSX machines.
2) better music organization with playlists
3) DTS-MA and TrueHD playback -- THIS WOULD BE THE DEAL-MAKER FOR ME. That being said, no one has been able to do this yet.

Get me those 3 things and I'd buy it in a nanosecond.
post #16 of 46
Thread Starter 
We're still on track for a release this Friday. It will be music only, still unfinished, with some bugs left, but it already imports and plays well on 10.7 or above.
post #17 of 46
Thread Starter 
An alpha build of JRiver Media Center for Mac is now available on our Mac board:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=31.0
post #18 of 46
I had never heard if this product before. But -

2/21/13 they wrote on their website forum -
Quote:
"PRICE
It's $24.98 at this time. We expect to raise the price by $5 each month until it reaches $49.98. Do not buy it unless you're willing to take a chance. We will not offer refunds."

Paying to try an Alpha build? No thanks.
post #19 of 46
Thread Starter 
Sure. Thanks for the feedback.
post #20 of 46
I was excited to read about the release for the mac as I'm trying to get my parents on board with the far superior HTPC experience. And then I read it was audio only with lots of bugs. and you have to pay for it.

Sorry but that is pretty ridiculous, in my opinion!

I use Jriver on a windows 7 asrock vision HT and really like it a lot, but still think itunes on the mac is a better music player especially for browsing through a very large library on a tablet or phone app. why would anyone waste their time with jriver on the mac...to play FLAC files?

when you get up to $50 do you plan on having video? I'll continue paying attention to Jriver for the MAC if that is a goal but otherwise will write it off and look elsewhere for my parents.
post #21 of 46
Quote:
And then I read it was audio only with lots of bugs. and you have to pay for it. Sorry but that is pretty ridiculous, in my opinion!

It's an alpha release for the cut rate price of $24.98, and JRiver has taken great pains to warn anyone considering it that it will be a long road to an eventual finished product and that even the audio only alphas and betas will not work seamlessly for the first year. That's hardly ridiculous, it's downright gentlemanly and transparent. It's completely up to you whether to support the product and company now. In return for $24.98 you essentially wager that JRiver will continue to develop the product and that eventually you'll get something that rivals the full featured Windows version. If you're not interested in paying $24.98 now and waiting for something that looks like a Mac app should, you can wait and pay $49.98 later. You'll end up in the same place, with the same full featured version; in the former instance JRiver will have earned the interest on your $24.98 for 12 months or so, in the latter you'll have the option to spend $49.98 12 months from now.

There's no way you should consider this for your parents, and the owner of JRiver would probably be the first person to tell you that! If your parents are brand new to HTPC and would like to watch a video, obviously they need something else. Start them off with iTunes and an Apple TV, get them conditioned with baby steps.
Quote:
why would anyone waste their time with jriver on the mac...to play FLAC files?

Supporting FLAC natively will attract some people to JRiver, no doubt. Not me, because my library is ALAC, and there are other very good OS X audio players that already offer FLAC playback plus a whole lot more that work and look like Mac apps should..right now. I suspect a greater hope for JRiver on the audio side is for those who find iTunes a little unwieldy with very large libraries of music because JRiver is both player and manager--it can manage files itself instead of piggybacking on top of iTunes file management like other OS X audio players do. The much greater hope for a JRiver in OS X around here is that it can eventually do what the Windows version can with audio AND video, in other words that it can eventually supplant XBMC or Plex.

Some people like getting in on the ground floor of a product, helping to work through bugs and suggesting changes. Think of paying $24.98 right now for a JRiver OS X version like it is a kickstarter campaign...you're being asked to invest in a product to help get it off the ground with the full knowledge that it might not turn out to be what you want it to be.
post #22 of 46
Thread Starter 
chefklc,
Great post. Thanks. You've said it better than I could.

nycmtber,
Here are a few reasons people seem interested in our Mac version.

1. Apple supports Apple formats and a few others. JRiver supports almost all audio formats.

2. We have a very strong audiophile following. Many of them use Mac's. More here:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Audiophile_Info

3. JRiver Media Center is significantly faster than iTunes.
http://jriver.com/speed.html

4. DLNA -- the Mac version doesn't yet support it, but it will soon.

5. DSD -- a high end audio format. JRiver is a leader here. More about DSD:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/DSD_Format

And so on ...

I don't expect you to bet on JRiver. I just wanted to give you an idea of why some people have. And for that, we are extremely grateful.
post #23 of 46

I bought it and it sucks :(

 

Maybe it will get better, crashed my computer several times :( MacBook Retina display, Processor  2.7 GHz Intel Core i7 16GB Ram, 750GB of SSD!

 

I sure hope there will be substantial improvement otherwise I waisted $25!!!

post #24 of 46
Thread Starter 
Are you using this build?
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=78632.0

There were a few crashes on earlier builds.

If you still see a problem, please post the details on our forum.
post #25 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by jriver View PostAre you using this build? http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=78632.0

There were a few crashes on earlier builds. If you still see a problem, please post the details on our forum.

 

I did and it froze the laptop, I will wait until next month, also the interface is way to WINDOWS for me thanks. :(

 

Is there a manual it seems very counter intuitive to many other software I have used!

post #26 of 46
Thread Starter 
I don't think we have had that problem reported by anyone else. I have a Retina and it runs fine on it.

If you had a lot of files, it might take some time to import. You could try modifying the import settings under Tools/Import/Auto Import. Choose a folder and edit it. Import only a single file type and only one directory with just a few files.

Try letting it go for a couple of hours if your library is large.

Follow the Support link on our site to find out your options.
post #27 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by jriver View Post

I don't think we have had that problem reported by anyone else. I have a Retina and it runs fine on it.

If you had a lot of files, it might take some time to import. You could try modifying the import settings under Tools/Import/Auto Import. Choose a folder and edit it. Import only a single file type and only one directory with just a few files.

Try letting it go for a couple of hours if your library is large.

Follow the Support link on our site to find out your options.

I have 550 CDs and about 50 HD files 24/192!

 

what is the link?

post #28 of 46
Thread Starter 
The 55 CD's (about 5500 files) aren't the problem, but it's possible one of the HD files is.

What format are the files you're using?

Here's support:
http://www.jriver.com/support.html
post #29 of 46

Flac for high resolution

post #30 of 46
still wondering if video is an eventual goal?

FWIW, my MC18 is constantly crashing on my windows 7 machine recently...slowly getting worse and worse. lagging when browsing and constant restarts required~!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: HTPC - Mac Chat
AVS › AVS Forum › Video Components › Home Theater Computers › HTPC - Mac Chat › JRiver Media Center on Mac