Originally Posted by FL335i
Guys, Fiddled with it more tonight. Hands down the best setup is running 2-channel sub, 120 on the LPF,120 on the front speakers, 80 on the center, XT32 on Movie, no re-eq, +8 on bass all around & +8 on Treble all around on the home menu. I bumped the subs and center +2db. Best sound I've been able to extract. I tried running no sub, just speaker wire going to the towers, set the fronts to full range (automatically does that when switch the sub off) and I litterally had no bass. Sounded terrible. Even after turning the amps up. Sticking with this setup. At least I have more control over the bass anyway. But seriously guys, this is the best I've ever heard using my speakers and either the 608 or 5009. I can now at least sleep easy knowing it's not getting any better unless I get new speakers. I think the key here is XT32 does wonders with two subs. Just my 2 cents. The bass is very vibrant. When I ran the towers in full range and no sub, and XT32 it sounded like my 1990's 12" Pioneer 3-way floor speakers. Loud, full but very flat and not tight. Thanks for the help everyone.
I think the ace in the hole in this situation was XT32. It's smarter than people. lol. After almost a week of trying different things I come to only within 1 or 2 adjustments of where XT32 put me when I first set it up! Lower the front towers from 150 to 120, bump the center & subs +2. Enjoy.
1. Audyssey XT32 doesn't have a "Movie" mode. Dolby PLIIX has a Movie modes. Is that what you mean?
2. The LPF of LFE only affects the LFE Channel. How can you set the LPF of the Center Channel to 80 Hz? Do you mean the crossover?
3. XT32 doesn't correct *below* the crossover it sets. Therefore, if it set the crossover to 150, and you lower the crossover, you are not getting any correction below the original crossover point. More importantly, Audyssey sets the crossover just above the -3 dB point of the speakers. It actually *measures* the in-room -3 dB point, so it may well be different than the manufacturer's specified -3 dB point. Therefore, if it found a -3 db point just below 150 Hz, you're not getting full response down to 120 Hz. This is likely why you need to run the bass at +8. I suggest you reset the crossovers to 150 and turn the bass back down.
4. I can't imagine why you need +8 on the treble. Audyssey's "target curve" has a 3 dB rolloff above 10 kHz, but +8 is way over-correcting for that. I suggest you turn down the treble, (and the bass), and try turning up the Master Volume Control. That should also help with dialogue intelligibility, and you may be able to lower the 2 dB you added to the Center Channel.
5. I assume you're running the "subwoofers" on the line level inputs. Before you run Audyssey, you want to "gain-match" the subs. The easy way to to do this is just to ensure they are both set to the same level on their amps. There is a more rigorous way to do it, which, if you're interested, you can read about here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1282064/two-subs-gain-matching-vs-level-matching