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post #451 of 617
Steely blue is the general color scheme, but the green creeps in pretty often in the night scenes.
I saw an original print of it after this whole teal witchunt began and was looking out for it; it's definitely there in sufficient quantities for some folks to whinge about.
post #452 of 617
Well, when JC oversees the new transfer it'll ALL be teal. And 3D. And 1.78.
post #453 of 617
Hopefully yes. It was already 1.33 on LD so I don't see a problem for an alternate 1.78:1 aspect ratio.
post #454 of 617
Hopefully no.
post #455 of 617
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post #456 of 617
Obviously same transfer as recent UK release ...?
post #457 of 617
It'll likely be same everything. We may get lucky and the original sound will be included, but that is not likely.
post #458 of 617
Cover art is truly awful - he looked so much better on the original poster...
post #459 of 617

Can someone tell me which terminator releases to buy???!!

WTF?? There are so many released versions and none are spectacular transfers?? I've gotten a headache reading the various threads on this topic. Can someone tell we which T1 and T2 releases are best or if I should just wait for 4k. smile.gif
And F all those studios that release crap bluray transfers.
post #460 of 617
Thread Starter 
T1 new version as the encode is miles better as long as you don't mind colour timing changes.
T2 are all world wide from the same exact crap master, but the skynet has dnr, but all the extras.
Edited by dvdmike007 - 12/26/12 at 2:49pm
post #461 of 617
So wait it out? smile.gif
post #462 of 617
Thread Starter 
For T2 yes, for T1 no its not going to change to the original timing nor get the mono track
post #463 of 617
Nuts... T2 was $5 at future shop
post #464 of 617
Thanks for the response.
post #465 of 617
Currently the only place to get the remastered T1 is overseas. If you want the new T1 now, that's what you need to do... import. If not, wait until... what is it, February?
post #466 of 617
Is there a new T2 coming soon too?
post #467 of 617
Thread Starter 
Yes at some point the Reliance (ugh) remaster is finished
post #468 of 617
I'll wait till Feb 19th to see if there's an improvement.
post #469 of 617
been waiting forever like everyone else for a remastered release. i am also baffled as to why the mono track will not be included (reportedly, would love to be wrong) - my dvd has it.

i dunno, i guess I should be relieved they weren't gonna wait another year just so they could time it with a "30th anniversary" rolleyes.gif

EDIT - just to clarify, Im not saying that the 5.1 is illegitimate and shouldnt have happened. Only issue I had was some of the sound effects didnt sound as good. Maybe this soundtrack will have the best of both worlds - the music of the 5.1 and the sound effects/foley of the mono. But just as best practice, there shouldnt be too much difficulty including the mono track.
Edited by huskie2000 - 2/3/13 at 11:05am
post #470 of 617
The only problems I have with the remaster are the over emphasis on teal and the T-800's pistol sounding like a squeaking dog's toy. If they had fixed that ONE sound effect, toned down the teal, and mixed the sound stems into 7.1 discrete, this would have been a pretty stellar restoration.

And then we'll find out that James Cameron had nothing to do with this transfer... and the NEXT one will be supervised.

Since there are no special extras on a separate disc... no deluxe treatment... I'll wait 'til this version is in the bargain bin to pick it up.
post #471 of 617
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

I'll wait 'til this version is in the bargain bin to pick it up.

I doubt it will be a long wait.
post #472 of 617
post #473 of 617

Irregardless of the review, the heavy teal bias is quite noticeable. It ain't cold steel or electric blue as in Adam Greenberg's T2 cinematography... it's the typical digital intermediate look of today's modern films. Over done to the extreme.
post #474 of 617
I'd call something like this an overdone to the extreme digital intermediate look: http://images3.static-bluray.com/reviews/930_3_1080p.jpg
The new Terminator is still within the realm of what's achievable through the normal analog process, regardless of whether that's the correct look or not.
Speaking of Adam Greenberg... I saw an old 35mm print of Near Dark a while ago, which he shot, and that movie is loaded with tealish tones, looking uncannily like this transfer sometimes.
Edited by 42041 - 2/17/13 at 10:52am
post #475 of 617
NOT a fan of "Modern Video Revisionism" at ALL!!
And this releases sucky color scheme is sicking/madding on many levels.

However...
I am still going too buy it!
Ugh, the detail is just too good too pass up unfortunately.

Just I will not be "lOOking" at this as the 1984 "The Terminator" I've luv'd too watch for decades.
I'll "lOOk" this as "2013's The Terminator RemasterED w/o the OST & w/SciFi Colors!!!
Welcome too JC's world thru cheap tintED glasses.
post #476 of 617
Review up with comparison screens to the Sony release. The difference in opening logos (I'm guessing) made it impossible to get the exact frames, but they're close enough for color timing purposes:

http://www.doblu.com/2013/02/23/terminator-remastered-bluray-review/

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post #477 of 617
May be different... definitely greater detail... but the color timing shift to a teal push isn't exactly better IMHO.
post #478 of 617
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

May be different... definitely greater detail... but the color timing shift to a teal push isn't exactly better IMHO.

Yeah, its a tough one. The detail is quite incredible. The softness of the original disc, which was definitely an older master, is impossible to miss now. I just don't see why the original color timing was so offensive originally.
Edited by Gamereviewgod - 2/24/13 at 7:16am
post #479 of 617
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Yeah, its a tough one. The detail is quite incredible. The softness of the original disc, which was definitely an older master, is impossible to miss now. I just don't see why the original color timing was so offensive originally.
Because it was "original" ( = boring in JC's little film room world) & if JC has any opportunity too change anything... he will!
post #480 of 617
We've seen time and again that the impetus for a successful filmmaker to go back and revise their earlier work is nearly irresistible, but we've also seen how rarely they have any real oversight of a home video transfer, so it might not have been Cameron's call at all.
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