Originally Posted by Josh Z
Blue, green, and teal are three separate colors. The streetlights you mention would appear green if photographed on film that wasn't timed for them.
I have no illusions that previous video transfers were totally accurate in terms of color (they certainly had their share of issues all around), but at least you can see that most scenes were photographed with a range of colors - some blue, some red, some this or that - whereas the new disc just slathers everything over with teal. Furthermore, it's always the exact same shade of teal, from scene to scene to scene. It looks digital
, with no natural gradations or variations. That's just not the way that movies ever looked prior to Digital Intermediates.
Teal is a mixture. The color spectrum of those lamps contains plenty of both constituent colors: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/HG-Spektrum_crop.jpg
and the precise color balance would tend vary from shot-to-shot in older films, since analog color timing doesn't seem to be a particularly precise art. Sometimes it would lean more towards blue, sometimes more towards green, resulting in various tealish shades, generally something like this: http://images.static-bluray.com/reviews/5772_4_1080p.jpg
. There's a scene in The Deer Hunter
where De Niro is in a phone booth at night, and on 35mm the ambient street lighting is very much the color of that image, and his face is lit with a warm orange light and it looks like something straight out of that teal-and-orange guy's blog, 100% analog.
Even The Terminator 2, which I've seen on 35mm very recently, while tending towards very blue lighting in the night material, the green component often pops up in various shots, and the Cyberdyne facility sequence looks like something out of the Aliens blu-ray... and the current master really doesn't do a great job of rendering the color.
And regarding the Terminator blu-ray, to my eyes a lot of the material in this new transfer looks quite neutral and varied on its own. If you compare it to the old transfer, it's cooler/marginally greener overall, but most of the glaringly teal stuff is what's lit up by fluorescent lighting. I'm not saying that's how it looked, since I don't know, but it's within the range of analog possibilities.Edited by 42041 - 2/28/13 at 11:32am