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post #61 of 617
6/26/12 at 5:59pm
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

The Terminator and T2, except for the few extra swear words and a little bit of the sex scene in the first film, would be given PG-13 ratings today. I've seen more violent and gory PG-13 films than these!
The only thing I don't like about the Gary Rydstrom remix of the original film is Arnold's gun sound effect when he shoots the first Sarah Connor and Sarah's roommate. If they just fixed that one item! All they need is a recording of that model of gun and silencer used and then punch it up a bit.
Other than that, it is a pretty decent re-working of a tinny, low budget, mono track. And Brad Feidel's score is in stereo.
He tied the first film with the second using T2's laser canon sound effects during the future war scenes.

First of all, you would need to take a chainsaw to T1 to get an R. It is littered with hard R scenery and language.

Secondly, the audio remix of T2 is missing pieces of music. It is insanely noticeable.
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post #62 of 617
6/29/12 at 10:23am
If the T1 remix at least paid attention to the original track, then I could perhaps stomach it. But, as Matt said, it's missing music, and in the process of completely replacing the foley and effects they've missed out some effects too. There's this eerie sort of scraping sound that plays over the main title sequence, that's gone. Reese racking his shotgun as he awakes from his nightmare is virtually imperceptible, and when the Terminator sprays that room in the copshop with his automatic rifle one of the plods gets off a shotgun blast that no longer has a sound effect attached to it!

As for the '15' rating over here, it was re-certified at '15' for the SE DVD released in 2001, so I don't know where this '18' Blu-ray rating has come from. I also reckon it's a placeholder unless, as others have said, the extras have bumped it up.
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post #63 of 617
7/4/12 at 9:43am
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Recently we informed you in advance exclusively on that 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment on 31 August 2012 finally James Cameron's sci-fi action flick "Terminator" (USA 1984), published by Arnold Schwarzenegger in the lead role, for the first time in this country in high definition on Blu-ray disc. Meanwhile, Fox has given all the details on Premiere HD and now it is known that fans can look forward to a very special release.
"Terminator" its Blu-ray debut is in a special edition Steelbook celebrate (see picture). On the Blu-ray disc contained the movie in a remastered version with German DTS-HD Master Audio is located 1.5 soundtrack. The bonus material will include some featurettes and deleted scenes in total 7. In detail, this information can now be found in our film-DB. Since the film is not indicated in the meantime, he will appear with a G-rating of 16 years to Blu-ray. The FSC logo, which must necessarily be placed on the front of the cover is, but then surely secured only through a sticker that can be removed after purchase.

German press release details

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post #64 of 617
7/4/12 at 10:28am
What is a 1.5 track? Seems like a typo to me.
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post #65 of 617
7/4/12 at 10:39am
1.5 might mean mono track with sub.
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post #66 of 617
7/4/12 at 10:43am
Mono track with 5 discrete sub channels or simply a typo.wink.gif

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post #67 of 617
7/4/12 at 11:05am
At least the remix wasn't as bad as the one Universal did for Spielberg's "Duel." They completely left off the truck's dinosaur roar sound effect when it plunges into the ravine.
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post #68 of 617
7/4/12 at 12:05pm
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Originally Posted by KenToizumi View Post

1.5 might mean mono track with sub.

That is how I took it, at least we have the new transfer confirmed
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post #69 of 617
7/4/12 at 12:49pm
I hope they have replaced the .45 gun sound....I really don't like the one on the DVD "remastered" version.

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post #70 of 617
7/4/12 at 7:06pm
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Originally Posted by KenToizumi View Post

1.5 might mean mono track with sub.
That would be "1.1".
If it's a "typo" it's probably "5.1".
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post #71 of 617
7/4/12 at 7:11pm
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Mgm when left well alone can be excellent with cat titles but with Cameron and Lowry Involved.......? M
Back-in-the-day Lowry could do no wrong (even when they erased rain).
Now days you've got the 'Cameron (the director) Is Always Right' crowd.
It's a case of two rights make a wrong! biggrin.gif
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post #72 of 617
7/4/12 at 10:07pm
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Originally Posted by BIG ED View Post

Back-in-the-day Lowry could do no wrong (even when they erased rain).

Off-topic I guess but which title did Lowry erased rain?
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post #73 of 617
7/4/12 at 10:35pm
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Originally Posted by wuther View Post

Off-topic I guess but which title did Lowry erased rain?
Citizen Kane.
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post #74 of 617
7/5/12 at 10:25am
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Originally Posted by mhafner View Post

Citizen Kane.

Specifically, the Citizen Kane DVD, not the Blu-ray. It was one of the very first titles they worked on, and even Lowry admit that they blew it.
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post #75 of 617
7/5/12 at 10:49am
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Specifically, the Citizen Kane DVD, not the Blu-ray. It was one of the very first titles they worked on, and even Lowry admit that they blew it.
At least they didn't erase paratroopers and airplanes....
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post #76 of 617
7/5/12 at 11:27am
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Originally Posted by Nays View Post

What is a 1.5 track? Seems like a typo to me.
Whoever copied the text from bluray-disc.de to Google Translate did not bother to correct the mistake (or any of the grammatical non-sense). Google Translate simly though it was a date and switched it from European format to US format. You can see the original (German) text here: http://www.bluray-disc.de/blu-ray-news/filme/33636-terminator-digital-restauriert-mit-deutschem-hd-sound-und-im-steelbook-auf-blu-ray-disc
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post #77 of 617
7/5/12 at 11:28am
Also the 2004 Star Wars DVDs, those were a mess.
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post #78 of 617
7/6/12 at 9:31pm
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Originally Posted by Nays View Post

What is a 1.5 track? Seems like a typo to me.
It's a special mix made just for bass-lovers. :-)
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post #79 of 617
7/7/12 at 1:15am
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Specifically, the Citizen Kane DVD, not the Blu-ray. It was one of the very first titles they worked on, and even Lowry admit that they blew it.
It doesn't really matter.
The BD shows so much grain that looks like rain that it has a negligible overall effect on the presentation.
Heck, it often looks like it's raining indoors...biggrin.gif
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post #80 of 617
7/7/12 at 4:45am
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

It doesn't really matter.
The BD shows so much grain that looks like rain that it has a negligible overall effect on the presentation.
Heck, it often looks like it's raining indoors...biggrin.gif

Yeah if only Cane looked like To Dnr a Mockingbird then it would be fine.
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post #81 of 617
7/7/12 at 5:01am
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Originally Posted by wuther View Post

Yeah if only Cane looked like To Dnr a Mockingbird then it would be fine.
They could combine all kinds of techniques and we could get things like:

"Citizen Patton"...

...or "Out of Xanadu"

...or "Predibud"
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post #82 of 617
7/7/12 at 6:53am
And of course Orange & Tealing Cane would be best.
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post #83 of 617
7/7/12 at 10:18am
At this point, if Terminator comes out with that same sh*tty remix I will be forced to make my own BluRay by combining it with the laserdisc's robust PCM mono sound. It'll be a royal pain, but worth the effort.
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post #84 of 617
7/7/12 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by Matt_Stevens View Post

At this point, if Terminator comes out with that same sh*tty remix I will be forced to make my own BluRay by combining it with the laserdisc's robust PCM mono sound. It'll be a royal pain, but worth the effort.

I nearly did it then my pc died frown.gif
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post #85 of 617
7/9/12 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by Fredrik View Post

I hope they have replaced the .45 gun sound....I really don't like the one on the DVD "remastered" version.

Dear Lord that's heinous! I'm really glad I've never owned Terminator or T2 since the LaserDisc days, since all of these sound effects changes would just grate on me incessantly. I can't imagine they would keep using those botched changes in a definitive Blu-ray edition, but maybe I'm just being optimistic.
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post #86 of 617
7/10/12 at 9:59am
What's wrong with the Terminator 2 soundtrack?
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post #87 of 617
7/10/12 at 12:21pm
Nothing. Unless you happened to see it in 70mm CDS in 1991 or whatever. I first saw it on VHS, many times over, and the subsequent SE LD/DVD/Blu-ray releases all sound like the T2 I know (though Studio Canal's 7.1 remix and derivations thereof are shite). So I'm all right, jack.
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post #88 of 617
7/10/12 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by Geoff D View Post

Nothing. Unless you happened to see it in 70mm CDS in 1991 or whatever. I first saw it on VHS, many times over, and the subsequent SE LD/DVD/Blu-ray releases all sound like the T2 I know (though Studio Canal's 7.1 remix and derivations thereof are shite). So I'm all right, jack.

Even tho there was a remix for near field HT on the SE laserdisc onwards? they all sound exactly the same? Cameron must have some placebo on the go from Rydstrom then
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post #89 of 617
7/11/12 at 3:25am
I didn't say that they sounded exactly the same. I don't have total recall like so many folks on here claim to do when remembering what they saw/heard 20 years ago. I said that every home version I've ever seen (aside from the Studio Canal remix) sounds like the T2 I know. This is not the case with The Terminator, for which I MUST have the mono audio.
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post #90 of 617
7/11/12 at 8:52am
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Originally Posted by Geoff D View Post

(though Studio Canal's 7.1 remix and derivations thereof are shite).

I have the Studio Canal HD DVD, which has a 5.1 track. I don't recall anything about it sounding much different than any other 5.1 mix for the movie I've seen. Does the SC Blu-ray have a different mix, and if so, what's wrong with that one?
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