TX-NR3010 / 5010 Info - Page 8

99¢ off list price!

I was hoping it would ship with AirPlay though... what is Onkyo waiting for?

My 3010 is working fine. So that's one out of two. Your odds just got better.

Honestly testing it wouldn't have done much good. I mean it worked fine for 6 hours..until the amp (i assume) crapped out. At least the HDMI stuff worked flawlessly. For the first 30 minutes i only had my front speakers hooked up...Klipsch klf-30 and had them bi-amped. They sounded really good! I was about to eliminate my outboard pro-audio amp which is 300wpc @ 8 ohms,,,thats how good it sounded. I then realized you cant bi-amp and run front wide and/or height speakers. Also, I didnt hear any clicking like the 3007 and it seemed to sync the hdmi signals quicker. The remote is basically the same as the 3007 so that was easy to adjust to. The menu and overlay graphics were very nice.

The bass with XT32 was much fuller than with the 3007. I kept my front speakers crossed at 40hz as Audyssey had set instead of raising it to 80hz so I could just focus on the LFE level in KungFu Panda. The fireworks were awesome and I didnt feel the need to raise the sub level like I had with the 3007. Had I had time, I would have liked to raise the fronts to 80hz to see how the bass was with the subs carrying the load. Instead the wife wanted to watch Get the Gringo. The first thing I noticed with this movie is Mel Gibsons voice. It just sounded RIGHT and very clear. Before this i was just going through several scenes I liked from various movies. The Neo:x to me sounded at least as good as Audyssey DSX which I love....maybe better but i needed more time to demo.

Though I am thoroughly disappointed in this whole fiasco, I am extremely excited about the possibilities with the 3010. It sounded VERY good....noticeably better than the 3007 and the HDMI stuff worked like you always thought it should even when the amp pooped out. If my unit was just an early fluke (Onkyo said I may have had the first 3010 shipped) you guys are in for a treat.

The big question I have been asked by about 10 people now is: would you take a 5009 or a 3010 for about the same money??? I know my answer and will have it out shortly.

Or....would you take the 3009 at $1320 or the 3010 at $2300?

I know what I did and I hope I made the right decision.

That's an easy one.

For about the same money? If it were me I'd take the 5009. No question.

If users report that the 3010 is anything short of spectacular, I may in fact do that, pending the outcome of my 818 experience.

With 11.4 capability makes the 3010 worth it this time around next year

I would drop the 818 for a 5009 in a heartbeat (I actually did)

Yup, the 5009 would be a wise choice. You get higher end parts (chassis, toroidal transformer, 192/32 and gold plated Hdmi inputs- )...

wow...no hesitation on Onkyos part...they are cross shipping me out another 3010 tomorrow. I have got nothing but excellent support from Onkyos staff. I really look forward to the reviews.....what an awesome sounding piece.

I don't honestly have much experience with Amazon's pricing on just released AVR's, but seriously, list price? How long does this typically last? I wasn't exactly expecting the normal full discounts upon release, but, as noted before, I am in need of replacing a failing unit, and must have 11.2 capability, but there is no way at all I will pay anywhere remotely close to that kind of price.


John
Edited by John Clark - 8/1/12 at 9:58pm

I'm in agreement with just about everything you said - I have those same questions. (When will the prices come down?) And 11.2 is a must for me, too.

One more I'll add - how much "better" is the 5010 versus the 3010? (i.e. why should we as consumers think it is worth $700 more?)

Onkyo's pricing is higher right now to dealers an distributors because they want to move the last of the 3009s and 5009s. Also most places didn't sell the 3009 and 5009 too much below list last year. They are only where they are now because Onkyo dropped their cost in hopes to move the rest. This is why it is an easy year to get pretty much the same for a lot less. Unless you want 11 channels.

Same question every year. The Toridal transformer, chasis, 192/32, gold plated inputs are not much to justify that much of a price difference. Especially if you are just using it as a pre pro. That is why it is a good question about would you take a 5009 for the same price as a 3010 these days.

Would you Joe?

If I didn't need 11 speakers (which I don't) or need to use the zones (newer models work with digital inputs so no need for red/white cables).... If one were using it in a dedicated room you get the same exact video processing and with better parts in the 5009. Not to mention multichannel inputs which after speaking with Onkyo yesterday those are most likely gone for good. More about my conversation in my Compariaon/Review coming soon.

really looking forward to that review.

It's the top. Looks more like a "steel cage" whereas the other units aren't as fancy.

Great news in the bolded text above as I make extensive use of zones 2 and 3 but I have a few questions please. Can HDMI signals be output to zones 2 and 3 or just optical? Will this work for Dolby digital signals or just stereo? Does this work for zones 2 and 3 or just 2 - I thought I remembered reading in the online manual that this worked for zone 2 but I didn't think it did for zone 3? If you could test this while running your tests this weekend I would be most grateful:)

 

Does the video processing play any role in BR or HDTV viewing? 

I too am waiting for your review. I remember a few weeks ago when you mentioned thinking about selling your 3009 because you liked your 818 so much. Now you say this and it makes me feel no need to switch to the xx10 models (I have connection so could xx10's for great price but xx09 out of stock). I am adding a second sub so the xx10 models are more attractive. I have roughly 2 weeks for my return to switch from the 818 to a xx10 model. I have been very happy with my 818 and yes I will have to be the 3rd to say my wife also noticed the difference with XT32. But please don't tell anyone my center channel was out of phase or she might think I'm an idiot. Funny thing was Audyessey XT never caught it but when I used the XT32 it kept telling me to check speaker wire. Anyway I only have a 5.1 setup but since I'm switching to a 5.2 setup I really think your review could be important but the question for me is going up 5 or 10 watts and adding SubEQ XT will that be worth the $$$. Markus has done his best attempt to show mer how to figure out placement of two subs without the SubEQ XT so I will try while waiting your findings. Gosh I feel like everyone here knows so much about this stuff and I am such a newb yet I have been doing this site for 6 years. My first HDTV was the Pioneer Elite Pro 710 and an Onkyo 989 receiver and I have been following this site since 2006.

Not in Blu ray as that should be passed through. With HDTV sending in 1080i and having all the units do 1080p is amazing.

No worries.

I also like the 818 but find life much easier using aReceiver with SubEQ. Bass is tighter. Sure I could dial in the 818 like the old days but that takesawhil to get close to the excellent results I get from the other models. I can't spend your money but I know I would either grab a 3009 (or possibly a 5009) for much cheaper than the newer ones coming. That would solve it. If you don't mind spending a little more than the 1010 would be a decent switch from the 818 mainly because you get SubEQ. No point in spending a lt more for the 3010 or 5010 unless you have an urge to spend....

Review/Comparison should hit by this weekend...

Yes, the 5009 is more like a collector's item. It seems to have "more" than the newbies as well. I was laughing when I saw that even the HDMI ports were gold! Anyway with multichannel inputs (not that many use those these days) it is possibly the last of this type for a long time. And unless you had the units hanging around the top is something that most would not notice.

Hello,
I agree with Joe about the 5009. Just yesterday I listed my TX-NR3008 to get either a 3009 or 5009. I am doing this to get HQV Vida/Marvell Qdeo primarily. There is nothing on the 3010 or 5010 that is of much importance to me and the things that have been omitted I do. (Legacy Video Inputs/MCH Analog Input) Also, I just cannot see myself running an 11.4 setup. I have enough trouble properly setting up a 5.2 Martn Logan Electrostatic Speaker array. (Vantage/Stage/Vista/Descent i/Depth)
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A few requested to see a pic of the top of the 5009. Looking!

I will be doing Neo:X 9.2. From what I have heard about DSX, I really doubt I will like it. Having voices occasionally appear in the heights would REALLY bother me. The 3010 seems to be the perfect machine for me.