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post #31 of 1066
I hope the manual is wrong about the 50.4 and it does have SubEQHT as I want to upgrade my 50.1 to the 50.4, but only if it has the SubEQ HT.
http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/own_manuals/DTR-50.4_En_web.pdf?CFID=1910118&CFTOKEN=82980253&jsessionid=f03099bb4108804218b72c296c184735531b
That's the link to the manual. Page 6 lists the XT32 but no mention of SubEQ HT and page 14 states that the signal from both subwoofer connections is the same signal which would mean that if SubEQ HT was on board it would be useless as there are not two independant subwoofer preouts to manage.

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post #32 of 1066
The 50.4 is up on Audyssey website now.
http://www.audyssey.com/products?field_multeq_flavor_value%5B%5D=MultEQ+XT32&pid=All&ptype=All
post #33 of 1066
I hope the new onkyo line from the 1010 to 5010 has it. Otherwise i will be looking at the new Denon 4520 when it comes out in October. Or a 3009 or 5009 model. What a disappointment.

Wonder why the feature set lists it and the manual does not??? Weird.

Although reading about subeqht on audysseys website, they don't seem to give the impression that it is that significant????

Yamaha has also updated their ypao software and sub calibration is now available in the aventage line, the new 3020 looks ok.
post #34 of 1066
I want a new Onkyo receiver and am considering the new 3010 or 5010....now would it be worth the $ to jump to the 5010 over the 3010??? Would you notice a difference in sound quality compared to the 3010?? Or would you guys just save some money and get the 3009 or 5009??? Thanks and any info greatly appreciated.

Some of the difference in the 3010 compared to the 5010.....I was curious if having gold plated speaker posts would increase the sound quality or does having that not mean much??? and 32 bit DACS?? also the toroidal transformer?? worth the upgrade??
Edited by Stylz25 - 7/5/12 at 11:48am
post #35 of 1066
I have to be perfectly honest. I may consider keeping the 3009 until the following year if the 3010 and 1010 do not have SubEQ. I liked the 818 (there is a difference for those of us with multiple subs though it can be remedied by manual effort) but out of principle alone I might boycott this year. I can't come up with a logical reason why they would omit it for these models. eek.gif

Before a decision is made I will make sure of course (if they do or do not have it). Reading the links above (thank you btw smile.gif) it is looking very doubtful!
post #36 of 1066
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

I have to be perfectly honest. I may consider keeping the 3009 until the following year if the 3010 and 1010 do not have SubEQ. I liked the 818 (there is a difference for those of us with multiple subs though it can be remedied by manual effort) but out of principle alone I might boycott this year. I can't come up with a logical reason why they would omit it for these models. eek.gif
Before a decision is made I will make sure of course (if they do or do not have it). Reading the links above (thank you btw smile.gif) it is looking very doubtful!

So if you were me would you save $ and just go with say the 5009 joerod?? Not sure yet if the new Onkyo's have a huge sound quality diff and cant wait to read your 3010 review
post #37 of 1066
Audyssey have confirmed that the 1010, 3010 & 50.4 do not have SubEQ HT. I would love them to have as I would be most likely buying the 50.4 if it did.
The links are above where Chris from Audyssey have said this as well as the link on the audyssey website which shows the 50.4 & 818 do not have SubEQ HT.

I don't know if it is possible, but I would love a firmware update that gave these receivers this feature.
Looks like I'm waiting for the DTR/DHC80.4 or Denon 4520, or just go with the 5010.
post #38 of 1066
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Originally Posted by Stylz25 View Post

So if you were me would you save $ and just go with say the 5009 joerod?? Not sure yet if the new Onkyo's have a huge sound quality diff and cant wait to read your 3010 review

I am actually in the same boat as you. The sound differences are minimal at best and the video processing is identical. The lack ofnSubEQ on the 3010, 1010 and 818 leave the 3009 as the front runner. For you I would grab a discounted 5009 and not look back! smile.gif
post #39 of 1066
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

I am actually in the same boat as you. The sound differences are minimal at best and the video processing is identical. The lack ofnSubEQ on the 3010, 1010 and 818 leave the 3009 as the front runner. For you I would grab a discounted 5009 and not look back! smile.gif
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Originally Posted by bucket23 View Post

Audyssey have confirmed that the 1010, 3010 & 50.4 do not have SubEQ HT. I would love them to have as I would be most likely buying the 50.4 if it did.
The links are above where Chris from Audyssey have said this as well as the link on the audyssey website which shows the 50.4 & 818 do not have SubEQ HT.
I don't know if it is possible, but I would love a firmware update that gave these receivers this feature.
Looks like I'm waiting for the DTR/DHC80.4 or Denon 4520, or just go with the 5010.

Thanks for the info! smile.gif Now I need to find a great deal on a 5009 and in Canada......im still waiting to see if the 3010 and 5010 have subeq ht!

Is it worth the $ to jump from my current 807 to say the 5009 or 3010 in terms of sound quality?? Will I notic a difference??
Edited by Stylz25 - 7/5/12 at 6:28pm
post #40 of 1066
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Originally Posted by bucket23 View Post

Audyssey have confirmed that the 1010, 3010 & 50.4 do not have SubEQ HT. I would love them to have as I would be most likely buying the 50.4 if it did.
The links are above where Chris from Audyssey have said this as well as the link on the audyssey website which shows the 50.4 & 818 do not have SubEQ HT.
I don't know if it is possible, but I would love a firmware update that gave these receivers this feature.
Looks like I'm waiting for the DTR/DHC80.4 or Denon 4520, or just go with the 5010.

Please provide link. Was on audysseys website and the 1010, 3010, and 5010 don't appear.
post #41 of 1066
The Onkyo **10 models aren't on Audysse website yet, which is why I went straight to Chris from Audyesse to see if he had some info, which he did.
The link to the Audysee forum question where I asked Chris is "https://audyssey.zendesk.com/entries/20953442" just scroll to the bottom of the page.
Edited by bucket23 - 7/8/12 at 2:36am
post #42 of 1066
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Originally Posted by bucket23 View Post

The Onkyo **10 models are on Audysse website yet, which is why I went straight to Chris from Audyesse to see if he had some info, which he did.
The link to the Audysee forum question where I asked Chris is "https://audyssey.zendesk.com/entries/20953442" just scroll to the bottom of the page.

I was on audysseys website and the 1010 the 3010 don't appear on there, at the bottom of your link he stated the 5010 has subeqht. Perhaps the 3010 and 1010 do as well, he may not have stated it yet??? One thing if you look at the rear panel on the back of the 1010,3010,5010 onkyo shows sub 1 and sub2 this is what they have done in the past when subeq ht was a feature. I would interpret this as 2 separate sub channels and not an internally y-connected sub output as in the 818. The Integra 50.4 did not have this on its rear panel, even though in the feature set on their site showed it with subeqht. confused.gif

Can't see a .4 receiver at that price point not having it. As well as what would be the justification of the 1010's $700 over the 818 if it did not have subeq ht??

If they don't have it, then Onkyo is going to lose a lot of market share i believe this year. I for one won't buy if subeqht is not present at that price point, although one could add an atimode 8033 i guess, but that is an expensive option.
Edited by sonic debauchery - 7/6/12 at 4:01am
post #43 of 1066
Point blank ask Chris if the 1010 and 3010 have it. Simple as that. smile.gif
post #44 of 1066
I've already asked CHris and he has already said. Have a look at the link where I asked my question to Chris, I asked if the 1010, 3010 and 5010 have SubEQ HT. He said that the 5010 has it.
post #45 of 1066
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Originally Posted by bucket23 View Post

I've already asked CHris and he has already said. Have a look at the link where I asked my question to Chris, I asked if the 1010, 3010 and 5010 have SubEQ HT. He said that the 5010 has it.

But in that link Chris does not say the 1010 and the 3010 do not have SubEQ. Either way if the 3010 does not have SubEQ then the value of the 3009 just went up. I'm amazed that Onkyo seems to be going in the wrong direction with their new AVRs. To eliminate the 7.1 analog input from the 3010 and the 5010 as well as the possibility of no SubEQ in the 3010 is not moving forward IMO. The 3008 and the 3009 both have SubEQ so why would Onkyo remove it from the 3010?

Bill
post #46 of 1066
If they have removed it and this is confirmed (Chris said the 5010 had it but did NOT say the 3010 or 1010 did or didn't) then I will have to admit the 3010 is a downgrade from the 3009. And if that is the case I will happily "live" with the 3009 until the 3011 hits... smile.gif
post #47 of 1066
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And if that is the case I will happily "live" with the 3009 until the 3011 hits... smile.gif

At the rate Onkyo is going maybe the 3011 will only have XT wink.gif.

Bill
post #48 of 1066
Thread Starter 
Anybody who's thinking about the 3009 / 5009 should check out Amazon prices and free shipping... At the current prices they will probably not be available NIB too much longer...
post #49 of 1066
That's a great point. Once they're gone they're gone! This might be even a bigger loss if the 3010 does not have SubEQ. eek.gif
post #50 of 1066
Looks if this is true like Onkyo is trying to spread the features a bit in theyre different price points to justify the difference. It is a shame they waited so long to make 11 + channels available when Dennon has been doing it since the 4810. Other than that and a few issues which did occur each model year, I find with what I am hearing I will stick with my 3009, as it has (fingers crossed) given me no issues and worked and sounded outstandingly since I purchased it last fall. If anyone is thinking of getting one of these at some of the great pricing I would not hesitate too long. For me to really get what I want and maintain what I have I would have to jump; to the 5010 and It would be hard to justify the cost at this time. Audessey xt32 with sub eq is amazing.
post #51 of 1066
Anyone know a Canadian site I could get a 5009 for at a discounted price like amazon.com??? the 5009 on amazon.com does not ship to Canada!! noooooooo lol
post #52 of 1066
I just asked Chris and he confirmed that the 3010 & 1010 do not have Sub EQ HT as previously stated. https://audyssey.zendesk.com/entries/20953442
post #53 of 1066
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Originally Posted by bucket23 View Post

I just asked Chris and he confirmed that the 3010 & 1010 do not have Sub EQ HT as previously stated. https://audyssey.zendesk.com/entries/20953442

Great work! So I guess Onkyo has decided it is only important in their 5010? eek.gif I am officially canceling my 3010 Review (since it will be very much like the 818 with slightly better sound which may or may not be noticable to most). I may do a "Take" on it down the road but with Onkyo being lazy or cheap I don't see the point in supporting the 3010 with trying to justify how it is "better" than the previous years model. I am sticking with a 3009 as a pre-pro and my next Review will be a Denon 4520. Again thanks Bucket23. smile.gif

My Wife will be happy to hear this. Especially since now we are expecting and since she was sentenced to bed rest we have been watching a lot of movies. Reviewing a 3010 won't interrupt time in the theater. cool.gif
post #54 of 1066
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I just asked Chris and he confirmed that the 3010 & 1010 do not have Sub EQ HT as previously stated. https://audyssey.zendesk.com/entries/20953442

 

That sucks!!!!!!!  I'm in the process of buying a JTR CapS sub and was planning on using the Sub EQ to see how my room sounded with that 18 incher and my current Velo DD15.  The 5010 will be about 3K, and from what I've seen the Denon 4520 will be $3.5K if it stays at conversion price from 2300 pounds.  That's a heck of a premium to get both DTS 11.x and Sub EQ.

post #55 of 1066
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That sucks!!!!!!!  I'm in the process of buying a JTR CapS sub and was planning on using the Sub EQ to see how my room sounded with that 18 incher and my current Velo DD15.  The 5010 will be about 3K, and from what I've seen the Denon 4520 will be $3.5K if it stays at conversion price from 2300 pounds.  That's a heck of a premium to get both DTS 11.x and Sub EQ.

Grab a 4311 or the 3009.

Bill
post #56 of 1066
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Grab a 4311 or the 3009.
Bill

I was just going to say the same. smile.gif
post #57 of 1066
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post


Grab a 4311 or the 3009.
Bill

 

Those are stand out choices, I'll hold out to see if Onkyo gets it's head out of its posterior and sees the light!

post #58 of 1066
So this unit does 4k Upscaling, but will it do 4K pass through and processing for when 4k actually arrives? I don't want to fork out lots of $$$ to have to upgrade in the next year or so when this feature becomes standard.
post #59 of 1066
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Originally Posted by Bender907 View Post

So this unit does 4k Upscaling, but will it do 4K pass through and processing for when 4k actually arrives? I don't want to fork out lots of $$$ to have to upgrade in the next year or so when this feature becomes standard.

That's a good point otherwise we are constrained to 4K players with dual hdmi outputs,the extra cabling and having to switch inputs.

post #60 of 1066
My Panasonic dual hdmi output blu ray has just died for the second time so I am now stuck with compressed audio via optical from the ps3 to Onkyo 805 for 3d movies. Could upgrade to a current 3d compatible receiver but would rather wait for 4k compliance which cant be far off if 4k up scaling is here.
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