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post #571 of 1066
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Originally Posted by Stylz25 View Post

I am still contemplating whether upgrading my current Onkyo 807 to the Onkyo 5010 is going to be worth the $$ to upgrade to? The 807 has MultEQ.....will I notice a vast improvement to MultEQ XT32?
I think the 5010 has 10 more watts per channel and separate transformers for audio and video but is all that worth it or no?
I guess the big question I want to know is will I even notice a difference in sound quality and clarity??
Thanks for anyone that has any input. smile.gif

Anyone with more info/experience?

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post #572 of 1066
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Originally Posted by TazExprez View Post

The 3010 and 5010 have Audyssey Pro and it appears to be available in all regions. The 3009 and 5009 have disclaimers saying that it is only available on EU and Asian models, while the 3010 and 5010 do not have any disclaimers.

AFAIK, they only have Audyssey XT32 with the Bass EQ...but are Pro ready.
post #573 of 1066
+1

Pro ready = able to connect to PC with Pro Installers kit ($550 + $150 license=$700) installed.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1346723/the-audyssey-pro-installer-kit-thread/0_100
post #574 of 1066
Anybody know about the Onkyo 1010?

It doesn't even show it on Audyssey's website even though it's XT32 and Sub EQ HT equipped.confused.gif
post #575 of 1066
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Yes cybrsage, I will add more on my paragraphs next time. I promise. smile.gif
And you summed it up nicely. I actually have a 5010 here now I'm using with a Parasound A51 and I am loving DTS NEO: X with Blu ray. And Dolby with DSX for sports (like football)... smile.gif

Hello Joe,

Always been a fan of your inputs on Onkyos, thanks for keeping us updated on all that there is to them, you have been really helpful, specially to people like me, that because of our location can't really audition all the gear that we purchase, you have always described the gear accurately and properly.. I want to ask for a special favor, can you please publish a picture of the TX-NR5010 on your setup? I want to know how does it look with other equipment at it's side, on a real environment.

Also, as you posted on your last review, you have tried over 20 Onkyos yourself, maybe you can give me a straight suggestion, as I'm still undecided if getting the 5010 or going for Denon's 4520, as reliability on it's components it's the main deciding factor for me. Because of my location I won't be able to have it fixed for any of the bugs, main boards failures or anything that may be present like the 08's series or the low end series for the 2012 models. I'm really concerned that if I pull the trigger and have this delivered to me, 3 months after using it, it starts presenting issues, on Onkyo's last 3 years of production, including 2012, I've read a lot about that.

I know that Denon has it's issues too, but they seem to be a little more manageable, don't you think?

I'm currently still using a TX-NR906, and this has been my 3rd Onkyo purchase since 2000. All of them are still going strong with no issues at all

Any input, thoughts and pictures are welcome

Thanks in advance
Edited by romeo_214 - 9/12/12 at 9:39am
post #576 of 1066
I will post a pic this afternoon when I get in. As for reliability all companies have issues from time to time. My first 4311 did not work out of the box. I have also had two Onkyos that had trouble but that is out of a lot and a couple years apart. It's great to read your Onkyos are still going strong. smile.gif
post #577 of 1066
Thanks Joe,

I know that you're, like me, an Onkyo fan, and by any means don't want to bash them, just as I told you before, I have read a lot of issues over the past years right here on this forum..

So I'll just ask straight up, if you could choose between the Onkyo TX-NR5010 and the Denon 4520ci, not based on cost, but on reliability itself based on what both companies have shown so far, what would you choose?
post #578 of 1066
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Originally Posted by romeo_214 View Post

Thanks Joe,
I know that you're, like me, an Onkyo fan, and by any means don't want to bash them, just as I told you before, I have read a lot of issues over the past years right here on this forum..
So I'll just ask straight up, if you could choose between the Onkyo TX-NR5010 and the Denon 4520ci, not based on cost, but on reliability itself based on what both companies have shown so far, what would you choose?

I can't say in fairness to Denon since the 4520 has not been released yet. There are many, many Onkyo units sold each year and most never post here. The ones that do are usually the ones that are having an issue. I wouldn't think that represents a large amount of the actual owner base. Most owners that are happy are just enjoying their unit. smile.gif
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I had an RN 3008 model (already sold), but still with me till I get the RN 5010. It's pretty good and I didn't have any trouble with it. I decided for the 5010, because I have a 11.1 set up, an with the 3008 I lost the rear surround speakers. I like the AVR 4810 I had (but had to sell for issue of incompatibility with my new projector) , and tested the AVR 4311, that I had to return because of the soundfall bug. I read and posted in the When do the 2013 Denon's come out thread and read that the 4520 is even lighter than the 4311. Less than 17 kilos. I don't know anything about the 4520's performance cause it's not out yet and certainly there are no reports. Joerod certainly can give a more solid and technical advice.
post #581 of 1066
JoeRod - Will you be comparing the Onkyo 5010 with the Denon 4520?
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Originally Posted by tkroeker View Post

JoeRod - Will you be comparing the Onkyo 5010 with the Denon 4520?

Definitely will. smile.gif
post #583 of 1066
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post


I like how you keep your 5010 "Gangsta" with the tags still on it.

I have thoroughly enjoyed all of the information that you have shared on your subjective experiences with these units. A big thank you for taking the time to do this.
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Definitely will. smile.gif

Looking forward to that comparison, until that, I'll wait a little more for my next purchase.... What is gonna be?? eek.gifconfused.gif
post #585 of 1066
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Originally Posted by btinindy View Post

I like how you keep your 5010 "Gangsta" with the tags still on it.
I have thoroughly enjoyed all of the information that you have shared on your subjective experiences with these units. A big thank you for taking the time to do this.

Haha-I still need to remove them. biggrin.gif

And you are most welcome. smile.gif
post #586 of 1066
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Originally Posted by romeo_214 View Post

Looking forward to that comparison, until that, I'll wait a little more for my next purchase.... What is gonna be?? eek.gifconfused.gif

Final Jeopardy theme music is playing. smile.gif
post #587 of 1066
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Are you pressing the CBL/SAT button on the front panel?


JD, thank you for the help. Given where my 5010 was sitting, there was not enough light on the portion of the front panel to see any lettering on those switches, they just looked like trim or decorative elements. So, while performing the factory reset, I had been pushing down the equivalent button on the remote. Once you identified things, I accomplished the reset, started things all over, and finally, after the firmware update, and the factory reset, I now have everything up and running, I set it up for 11.1, XT32 ran great, and all is well. Thanks, very much, to everyone for their help with my issues, especially JoeRod.

Also, Joe, I am impressed with the way the 5010 is driving the two sets of 4ohm speakers I have connected to it. I think the money was well spent for the amplification. It even holds up well against my external Sunfore amps, at least so far.


John
Edited by John Clark - 9/14/12 at 10:04am
post #588 of 1066
One other question. I have initially been using the 5010 with my Comcast HD DVR as a source. It based on the front panel indicator, where it highlights the channels being outout, it seems to be in 9.1 mode. The rears are nout playing. I've only initially looked at the manual, which, being either online, the cd via the pc, isnt easy for me to access when the home theater is on the first floor, my pc is on the third floor, and I do not own a laptop. Also, the knee surgery I had yesterday has understandably seriously limited my movements and I am more or less confined to my home theater room. I've gone into the setup repatedly, and walked through the modes it has, but have not found how to set the AVR to output in 11.1 for the cbl/sat output. What am I missing?

I would actually like to set it up for 11.1 reproduction for all sources, since this system is not used for stereo or music playback, except for an occasional BD Music disc, etc.


Any help from those more experienced with the unit would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


John
post #589 of 1066
Awesome news John! Glad you got it going. smile.gif

As for your question certain modes only do 9 channels. Audyssey DSX my favorite for sports does not do the backs. I have to select DD PLII Movie + DSX to get 11 channels. Experiment with the sound modes. DTS NEO: X gives 11 channels as well. smile.gif
post #590 of 1066
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Originally Posted by waltie View Post

I had an RN 3008 model (already sold), but still with me till I get the RN 5010. It's pretty good and I didn't have any trouble with it. I decided for the 5010, because I have a 11.1 set up, an with the 3008 I lost the rear surround speakers. I like the AVR 4810 I had (but had to sell for issue of incompatibility with my new projector) , and tested the AVR 4311, that I had to return because of the soundfall bug. I read and posted in the When do the 2013 Denon's come out thread and read that the 4520 is even lighter than the 4311. Less than 17 kilos. I don't know anything about the 4520's performance cause it's not out yet and certainly there are no reports. Joerod certainly can give a more solid and technical advice.

Hello,
The TX-NR3008 actually represented a pretty big step forward in reliability. It had a redesigned HDMI Board (007 HDMI Board Replacements benefited from the redesign) and mine has been rock solid. If it were not for the Serial/IDE Cable fiasco, I truly believe folks perceptions about the x08 Series would be much different. Quite onerous that a $2 Cable brought many x08's to their knee's.

I have always used my 3008 strictly as an SSP and it has been flawless. I am heavily contemplating getting a 5009/5010 as I am intrigued by HQV Vida/Marvell Qdeo, but the 3008 does offer all of the essentials with XT32/SubEQ HT, a heavily revised version of HQV Reon VX allowing 1080p/24 Upsampling, all manner of Audyssey Modes, and only really lacking DTS Neo:X.
Cheers,
AD
post #591 of 1066
JoeRod: will you be so kind as to inform me as if to get the DTS Neo X 11:2 (in my case) I have to choose DD PL II movie or whatever other add. The manual says in this mode you can use THX . Have you tried that?. Thank you once again.
post #592 of 1066
I will give THX a shot for tv shows. For sports it seemed to tame things down some whereas DSX heads in the opposite direction.
post #593 of 1066
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Awesome news John! Glad you got it going. smile.gif
As for your question certain modes only do 9 channels. Audyssey DSX my favorite for sports does not do the backs. I have to select DD PLII Movie + DSX to get 11 channels. Experiment with the sound modes. DTS NEO: X gives 11 channels as well. smile.gif


Joe,


I've also been using Audyssey DSX for sports with great results. I'll keep experimenting, but a couple more questions. So there isn't an actual Audyssey mode for 11 channels? Also, is DTS Neo X applicable to signals not broadcast in Neo? And what 11.1 channel format is best applicable to watching Blu Ray movies? Thanks.


John
post #594 of 1066
Blu ray movies hands down DTS NEO: X. smile.gif
post #595 of 1066
John: As Joerod said you will have to combine certain modes to DSX (DPL II movie), according to him will give you 11.2. In the case of Neo X, very probably, you'll have to do the same. In my Denon AVR 4810, I had to add dpl or dts surround modes to obtain 11.1 set up. I think All Stereo mode will go 11 (1/2) also. Good luck and enjoy your toy.
post #596 of 1066
Actually with DTS NEO: X you don't need to add anything. All 11 speakers always show up and ready to go. smile.gif
post #597 of 1066
That's really good news!!!
post #598 of 1066
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Blu ray movies hands down DTS NEO: X. smile.gif


Watched Sherlock Holmes - Game of Shadows tonight in 11.1 and the surround sound was just spectacular! I'm also shocked by how much greater the clarity of the dialog (and the overall sound) is versus my 886 pre-pro.


John
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

As for apps and such have you tried O Remote? smile.gif



Joe,


I checked O Remote, it looked great, had very good reviews, andI was all set to download it to my iPad2 for use with the 5010 in place of the woefully cheap and inadequate supplied remote. However, I discovered the fact that you must have the AVR networked to use it, and my router is three floors and about 85 feet away from the 5010's location. This is really unfortunate since I just can't stand the standard remote. I hadn't tealized how much this AVR's not having Air Play would complicate things.

I also really don't feel like dropping $250-300.00 on something like a Harmony 1100 remote just to be able to effectively use the receiver. I'm extremely happy with the sound quality, the amplification, the features, the Audyssey/XT32 of the 5010 and especially the 11 channel sound performance. It's just disappointing to run into an issue like this. Especially as I've not currently come up with any solution to resolve it.


John
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