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post #31 of 181
Just to be clear, the tour rules:

1) You are responsible for paying the shipping charges to the next person. Amounts will vary, of course, with locations and carriers (FedEx, UPS, etc). The weight of each box is 43lbs.

2) You are responsible for buying 2 new large size (18" x 18" x 24") U-Haul boxes ($6) to replace the 2 shipped U-Haul boxes that the previous person bought.
post #32 of 181
How does one sign up for this tour?
post #33 of 181
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Originally Posted by cacophonix View Post

How does one sign up for this tour?

Contact AJ.
post #34 of 181
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Originally Posted by cacophonix View Post

How does one sign up for this tour?

Cool, you are in Dallas? I'm in Oklahoma City.

I might drive to Dallas in 2 weeks. biggrin.gif
post #35 of 181
Yup ... i'm in plano.

I've emailed AJ to put me on this list. Would be awesome if you can bring the speakers when u come down here cool.gif
I heard these at LSAF a couple of months back, and really liked them. I bought the integrated amp that he had in his room (yaqin hybrid). I have a fairly difficult room in the sense that i have not been able to integrate subwoofers here. So i think these speakers may be the answer, but i'd like to audition them inhouse before buying.
post #36 of 181
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Originally Posted by cacophonix View Post

Yup ... i'm in plano.
I've emailed AJ to put me on this list. Would be awesome if you can bring the speakers when u come down here cool.gif
I heard these at LSAF a couple of months back, and really liked them. I bought the integrated amp that he had in his room (yaqin hybrid). I have a fairly difficult room in the sense that i have not been able to integrate subwoofers here. So i think these speakers may be the answer, but i'd like to audition them inhouse before buying.

Cool. That would save me the shipping cost and save you one step since the 2 U-Haul boxes are new and not shipped. biggrin.gif
Edited by AcuDefTechGuy - 7/11/12 at 9:32am
post #37 of 181
Will these be at Capfest?
post #38 of 181
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Originally Posted by AcuDefTechGuy View Post

Cool. That would save me the shipping cost and save you one step since the 2 U-Haul boxes are new and not shipped. biggrin.gif

Sweet! I've PM'd you with my contact info.
post #39 of 181
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Sweet! I've PM'd you with my contact info.

I guess we are still waiting for AJ to approve this.
post #40 of 181
Zaph sure likes the Q100 http://www.zaphaudio.com/blog.html

Looks like our good luck in the field is being borne out by science.
Paul
post #41 of 181
Would anybody be able to post an in-room frequency response measurement with these speakers.
post #42 of 181
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Originally Posted by pslate View Post

Zaph sure likes the Q100 http://www.zaphaudio.com/blog.html
Looks like our good luck in the field is being borne out by science.
Paul

Trying really hard to understand this post!
post #43 of 181
This is a brief review with more to come. Before my wife threatened to turn me from a rooster to a hen (old movie quote) if I bought anymore speakers, I purchased AJ's Soundfield 1 Monitor (along with some Pioneer/TAD bookshelfs). I compared these several weeks ago but while the Soundfields could play to very respectable levels, the PioneerTad promptly blew out one of the bass drivers. Andrew Jones himself said it was the result of abuse, but I really didn't think it was that loud and to the Soundfield's credit, not a hint of strain on them.

First the speakers are quite heavy, but came well packaged and survived the trip from (where is your location AJ, oh, I remember "take a guess"). In any event, the cabinets are nice and mine are cherry. I do not care for the grills however, as I have never met a magnefic grill I have liked. That said, I don't use the grills anyway so I don't care. My initial reaction was that they were just a tad bright, but detailed with no harshness. This was playing Dave Alvin's CD 11//11 which I love. AJ actually recommends aiming the speakers slighly in front of the sweet spot and I found this perfect with the brightness gone and the imaging depth greatly improved. I listened to Carrie Rodriguez wonderful recent CD recording of "Big Love" and it sounded great, balanced presentation with great bass for a bookshelf (or for a full range speaker for that matter). That brings me to what I think is the innovative aspect of this speaker. Essentially you get to dial in your own bass by using the amp in the back. You can do it by ear or by measurements. To those who don't think that position for the bass is where the mains are you can add a sub or two and either cross over or do as Geddes does and use the mains for bass as well as sub(s) to get the full advantage of smoothing bass out from multiple sources.

Finally I listened to Bill Frisell's excellent John Lennon tribute album. It sounded excellent as well and I never felt I was listening to a bookshelf. Just a well designed full range speaker. Well done AJ from where ever the heck you are :-)
Edited by Randy Bessinger - 7/23/12 at 11:54am
post #44 of 181
Interesting about the Pioneers, was that the EX series? S2 or S4? I would have thought them to be fairly robust, almost bought them myself.
post #45 of 181
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Interesting about the Pioneers, was that the EX series? S2 or S4? I would have thought them to be fairly robust, almost bought them myself.

And how much did the Pioneer EX speakers cost? biggrin.gif
post #46 of 181
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And how much did the Pioneer EX speakers cost? biggrin.gif
S4 and I will have to check. They were a close-out from Audio Video Logic and I must say that while I was reluctant to buy with cashier check, the dealer was superb at getting the repair handled. I give them an A+ in service.

Just checked 2700 so twice as much as AJ's speakers (plus 100)
post #47 of 181
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S4 and I will have to check. They were a close-out from Audio Video Logic and I must say that while I was reluctant to buy with cashier check, the dealer was superb at getting the repair handled. I give them an A+ in service.
Just checked 2700 so twice as much as AJ's speakers (plus 100)
Yeah, their payment options scared me too, but they have good feedback. The prices on them are very good, I almost bought the S2s and and S7. I imagine the replacement drivers are priced accordingly in relation to the MSRP. Did you get stuck with the bill?
post #48 of 181
I'm inFLA. Tampa (not the bay, or I'd be in a boat or swimming all the time)
post #49 of 181
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Originally Posted by saeyedoc View Post

Yeah, their payment options scared me too, but they have good feedback. The prices on them are very good, I almost bought the S2s and and S7. I imagine the replacement drivers are priced accordingly in relation to the MSRP. Did you get stuck with the bill?
No, I didn't.
post #50 of 181
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Originally Posted by RicardoJoa View Post

Hi AJ, can the bash amp from the soundfield work with 220v?

Hi Richard
Answer: No....but the new Yung amp which replaced it sure can.smile.gif (I know, I know, need to update website).
What's going on out there in LA why you need 220?
Btw, the Yung also has a variable phase control (unlike the BASH, which is 0, 180 switch only)...which means you have some rudimentary EQ capability as well. By adjusting the XO frequency and slowly inverting the phase, you could create a notch in the response that might somewhat attenuate a modal hump.

cheers,

AJ
post #51 of 181
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Originally Posted by AJinFLA View Post

Hi Richard
Answer: No....but the new Yung amp which replaced it sure can.smile.gif (I know, I know, need to update website).
What's going on out there in LA why you need 220?
Btw, the Yung also has a variable phase control (unlike the BASH, which is 0, 180 switch only)...which means you have some rudimentary EQ capability as well. By adjusting the XO frequency and slowly inverting the phase, you could create a notch in the response that might somewhat attenuate a modal hump.
cheers,
AJ

Currently residing in asia.
There are a few review about the monitor but im still quiet not sure how these differ from other speakers.
post #52 of 181
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Originally Posted by RicardoJoa View Post

Currently residing in asia.
There are a few review about the monitor but im still quiet not sure how these differ from other speakers.
Well, for one thing, they are one of the coolest speakers around because I make them.
Other than that, there really is no night and day difference. They are a "bookshelf" sized speaker meant to perform similar to larger, floor standing type speakers. They do this by having an active, high displacement subwoofer driver and ample power, to compensate for the much lower enclosure volume.
The design is also sealed, with a slower less steep roll off than a ported speaker. The active amplification further modifies the response to compensate for typical room gain reinforcement, while also allowing output control, so that they can be placed either near to boundaries (like a room corner) and not sound boomy, or well out into the room and not sound thin. The controlled directional point source nature of the mid/treble means that reflections in every direction of the polar field will have "carbon copy" type spectral origins, which tends to reduce the variability of the SQ room to room, again allowing placement relatively close to boundaries without severe adverse effects.
Most (all?) users tend to not have any form of room "treatments" (which I again reiterate, is not something to be shunned by audiophiles or studiophiles), yet still seem to enjoy the spatial reproduction, so they might be appealing in that sense. Or not.

cheers,

AJ
post #53 of 181
I have a package on the way...
post #54 of 181
My turn with the audition pair, very impressed so far. These do not sound like a small monitor at all.

More tomorrow, looking forward to an extended listening session.
post #55 of 181
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Originally Posted by Del Cosmos View Post

Trying really hard to understand this post!

I think he meant it in the sense that it isn't "luck" why listeners think they sound good in a wide variety of rooms ("in the field"). It's the applied science of acoustics and psychoacoustics of loudspeakers and rooms. Paul can correct me if I misconstrued his intent.
I can't tell you how ecstatic I am when I attend show after show and confirm, just like on these forums, how few people have even the slightest grasp of this.
http://www.dagogo.com/View-Article.asp?bShowUnpublished=&hArticle=1064&PageOfArticle=2
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue62/capital_audiofest.htm
(the last paragraph is particularly amusing).
Now I just need a large enough army of kool-aid drinking fanboys, to be boisterously loud enough to penetrate even the thickest of skulls.biggrin.gif

cheers,

AJ
post #56 of 181
Plopped these down onto some 24" stands spaced wide and toed in, gave a quickie subjective tune to the built in subs (I am running the crossovers wide open, only the gain has been adjusted thus far), AVR set to Pure Direct. Right off the bat last night, I could tell the Soundfield Audio Monitor 1's are something special. I lost two hours of sleep staying up late! Imaging is great, within a nice, wide soundstage. Tonight I dialed the sub gain back a bit and let my CD player spin for a few hours of listening. I'll say now that these speakers are a very easy recommendation to any music lover.

I didn't bother putting anything special into my 5 disc universal disc changer, just rolling with what was already in there. Some pretty bass heavy CD's: Best of Corvus Corax, A Perfect Circle "Thirteenth Step", White Zombie "Supersexy Swingin' Sounds", Soundgarden "Badmotorfinger" and I am especially enjoying The Crystal Method "Vegas".

The 8" powered subs are quite capable, and I am hearing more information coming through the KEF coincident drivers than I have heard on anything else I have had in my home, or 99% of anywhere else for that matter. Gonna have to try some of my Hi Rez SACD and DVD-A recordings. I do miss the dynamics of my current setup, but that consists of 1" waveguided compression tweeters, 10" midrange/midbass drivers and dual 18" subs, so comparison is not fair, it is just my personal point of reference. However the SAM1's will surprise with dynamics, and delivers peaks strain free. The first thing that struck me about them is how smooth they are. Harsh is not in the SAM1's vocabulary. It's easy to hear into the music, lots of detail with no smearing.

Having some fellow audio enthusiasts over in a few nights, plan on dialing the subs in with Trinnov Room EQ via the Sherwood/Newcastle R-972 and REW measurements.

Hard to imagine getting more for the money than the SAM1's deliver, nothing comes to my mind. Overall, a very good job, AJ. Makes me drool thinking about listening to the 1812 Overtures.
post #57 of 181
tess: What size room are you dealing with? As for the 1812 lots of positive feedback came out of Capfest 2012.
post #58 of 181
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Originally Posted by Del Cosmos View Post

tess: What size room are you dealing with? As for the 1812 lots of positive feedback came out of Capfest 2012.

12'x16', open to one side, so not symmetrical. Directivity designs work well for me because of this.
post #59 of 181
Thanks. That's pretty much my scenario as well. I'm about 12x20 but the HT area is squeezed into half of that.
post #60 of 181
Right on AJ!

Getting speakers that perform well in your room, is a whole lot better than getting your room to conform to your speakers. I been though that already!!
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