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post #31 of 115
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Originally Posted by sierraalphahotel View Post

The LT20 is a nice compact unit. Should suit even those of us with quite small rooms with mere 3 metre listening positions? If the quoted price of an active LT-20 does indeed include the amps, then it really would be great pricing (this would seem to good to be true).

Peter,

How are these for music blu-rays, say compared to an equivalent PMC set-up?

Sean

After a couple of weeks of breaking in I played the jeff beck Nadia and one song from blow by blow that are part of the blu-ray filmed in a London basement with an ada processor. It sounded sooo sweet and alive with incredible surround soundstaging (if that term exists) plus with only 2 of the dual VOLT 15 subs (that i bespoke commissioned) going and I can frankly say that this was the most realistic, emotionally involving blu ray music experience I have ever, tear to the eye good.

Then I cranked it up and there was no change in the tonal balance, imaging and musicality of these speakers. Mark my words just as I predicted that Imax would switch to Barco, this is the ideal Dolby Atmos loudspeaker.

I had heard about breakin in speakers but this proved the point. In the beginning you could hear the ATM's sounding very ribbonny, after the break-in them ATM's begin to sound like Esotars on steroids. My reference tweeter.
Edited by CINERAMAX - 12/18/13 at 3:20pm
post #32 of 115
Ah you must be talking about Jeff Beck live at Ronnie Scott's. A must have blu ray. Seriously good mix down. And yes it sounds truly amazing thri the Ada processors. And dare I say it even better thru the Datasat.

Really must get a listen to these Quested speakers.
post #33 of 115
I am looking forward to getting a set of Questeds to try in my theater. Can't wait!smile.gif
post #34 of 115
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In the trinnov system in Moscow once the overhead speakers were placed the game changed. Playing ironman three house destruction scenes the system became completely holosonic, with sounds panning overhead.

post #35 of 115
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Originally Posted by CINERAMAX View Post

In the trinnov system in Moscow once the overhead speakers were placed the game changed. Playing ironman three house destruction scenes the system became completely holosonic, with sounds panning overhead.


Hi Peter!

Thanks for the updates :-). How do you suppose the smaller LT speakers you used as overheads in Moscow would fare as the main LCR channels in a smaller space?

Kind regards,

Sean
post #36 of 115
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LT-10's

There is nothing small about them big bad boys. They probably work great. Some even theorize they have smoother dispersion than the lt-20 because of the simpler driver arrangement.

Now they are best matched with the quested amps for maximum spl.

Here are pictures of the plynth made out of 5/8' plywood and laquered black, no hard edges. It about the size of a medium igloo ice chest.







It has holes to pour buckshot in it but I decided against procuring such item in that particular country.;-)

You could clearly hear the ambient sounds and even helipans flying overhead. For those that attended the HK next generation processor demos a few years back, this is exactly that. Uncannily like the HK lexicon demos of 2008/2009.
Edited by CINERAMAX - 11/29/13 at 11:36pm
post #37 of 115
Hi Peter smile.gif

the LT-10's are really great. I've got an LCR row for testing in the cinema and a pair of soft dome midfield monitors in the living room.
Quested's are very unique in combining ultra precision studio monitoring with lifelike sound. I also heard active LT-20's in a direct comparison - phenomenal!

Thanks again for pushing me in that direction wink.gif
post #38 of 115
Hi Norm:

Glad to hear from you again. I am looking at the LT8 or LT10's for my sides and back ear level. Peter, the picture makes the LT10 look much bigger than the dimensions I have which are 15"Wx23.62"Hx12.2-"D.
Edited by LJG - 12/1/13 at 10:30am
post #39 of 115
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My Pleasure Norm,

Hi Lon, Must be the wide angle lens. Those dimensions seem right.:-)
post #40 of 115
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post

Hi Norm:

Glad to hear from you again. I am looking at the LT8 or LT10's for my sides and back ear level. Peter, the picture makes the LT10 look much bigger than the dimensions I have which are 15"Wx23.62"Hx12.2-"D.

Hi Lon!

great to hear from you too smile.gif The LT-10's are a good choice, you will be surprised!
The combination with Quested amps is strongly recommended, they sound warm like tubes.
This is important for the AMT performance in the LT-10 as they have no midrange driver.
There are some Hip-Hop producers in L.A. and they use them for mastering eek.gif
post #41 of 115
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Well looks like Lon, Jeff and Curt get to test the lt-8's...We are trying to incorporate them into an atmos retrofit to Skoll.

I have never claimed to be a 2 channel audiophile but have instead since a very long time when I started Pairing Martin logan monoliths and sequels to fosgate steered surround processor i have been grooming myself for this 3d holosonic high accuracy surround which I will define as the Enhanced Atmos base (as achieved in Moscow). that is what Lon and Jeff will be able to achieve. A new chapter in the history of home cinema.

I have promised perfomance improvement specs of x2 Skoll=Albiorix and x2 Albiorix=Europa. Whereas I thought we would use Raidho diamond speakers and d'agostino amps, I am going to mash up things a bit , since the Atmos situation at Europa requires a myriad of bespoken cabinets, that I will source the diamond woofers and have Roger experiment with them ( a Quested diamond coated woofer prototype). I am still going to try keep the d'agostinos in there if I am to radically improve on the LT series. And remember that I am insinuating in no uncertain terms that Dolby Atmos will be enjoyed tenfold with these speakers over any other horn deign.
Edited by CINERAMAX - 12/5/13 at 4:09am
post #42 of 115
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Originally Posted by Nicksbass View Post

Hi Peter smile.gif

the LT-10's are really great. I've got an LCR row for testing in the cinema and a pair of soft dome midfield monitors in the living room.
Quested's are very unique in combining ultra precision studio monitoring with lifelike sound. I also heard active LT-20's in a direct comparison - phenomenal!

Thanks again for pushing me in that direction wink.gif


ANOTHER THREE HORNS BITE THE DUST, watch me follow your lead at Skoll.
post #43 of 115
Looking forward to it and Lon's thoughts as he's first on the demo tour. Thanks!smile.gif
post #44 of 115
Jeff:

You are going to Love the Trinnov, it is light years ahead of anything available right now. All the speakers disappear, it is sound stages and image locations. I really can't wait to add the four ear level speakers. If the LT8's are anything close to the reports than I'll have 4 by years end.
post #45 of 115
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With 114 db the lt-8 is the best loud-speaker I've heard for surround, also does not need the break in the lt-20's needed .
post #46 of 115
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Originally Posted by LJG View Post

Jeff:

You are going to Love the Trinnov, it is light years ahead of anything available right now. All the speakers disappear, it is sound stages and image locations. I really can't wait to add the four ear level speakers. If the LT8's are anything close to the reports than I'll have 4 by years end.

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Originally Posted by CINERAMAX View Post

With 114 db the lt-8 is the best loud-speaker I've heard for surround, also does not need the break in the lt-20's needed .



I can't wait to get all in my theater.

It's such a long process testing and trying out things. But I am excited that you've been so captivated by it. I've been checking out the technology on line and hearing it a few times over the past at CEDIA in person. I knew this was a unique technology in a sea of room correction commonality. Really pumped to try out the Questeds in home with the Trinnov. Between Peter and Curt, it's turning out to be quite fun.
post #47 of 115
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Helicopters: WwZ is really good to convey this 3d soundstage thing, you really need to hear the gutting of ironman 's home scene with the height channels doing or surpassing what Harman was doing with the overhead channels in their 11.1 system demos . Everyone was flored by those demonstrations a couple years ago, what this is way better. When the Ironman house comes crashing over you.
Edited by CINERAMAX - 12/6/13 at 6:13pm
post #48 of 115
I am only operating the Trinnov in 2D processing because of my existing speaker setup, when I add the 5 speakers it will be full 3d processing. But even in 2 D the front imaging is expanded width wise beyond my Theater walls, probably 4 feet wide each side is the imaging I get.

Here is an example of what can be done. My center speaker is below the screen, my side and rear speakers are near the cieling. Curt as an experiment brought the center channel image from below the screen upward using the side and rear high speakers. It is really phenomenal what can be accomplished.
post #49 of 115
So have the speakers shipped yet from overseas?


Jeff
post #50 of 115
They were all set to go out today, so I should have them in hand early next week.
post #51 of 115
I don't suppose anyone in Australia has a set of LT-10's?
post #52 of 115
Great!

So much for the local high end boutiques to try things out locally (or at least see them) in the neighborhood. Speakers coming from overseas on trial... the new norm:D.

But I am really thrilled to get the Trinnov and these speakers in for an evaluation in my room. From Lon's experience, things should be decidedly improved.

I'm looking forward to your experience with these, Lon.
post #53 of 115

Jeff,

 

Vintage King Audio in Detroit (Ferndale I think, so not too far from you) carries Quested.  I'm not sure if they stock the LT series.  I've been interested in the LT-8's myself but haven't got around to giving them a call.

post #54 of 115
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Originally Posted by b curry View Post

Jeff,

Vintage King Audio in Detroit (Ferndale I think, so not too far from you) carries Quested.  I'm not sure if they stock the LT series.  I've been interested in the LT-8's myself but haven't got around to giving them a call.

Hmmm... I had no idea. Thanks.
post #55 of 115
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Great!
So much for the local high end boutiques to try things out locally (or at least see them) in the neighborhood. Speakers coming from overseas on trial... the new norm:D.
But I am really thrilled to get the Trinnov and these speakers in for an evaluation in my room. From Lon's experience, things should be decidedly improved.
I'm looking forward to your experience with these, Lon.

Not a good idea. I had the ESS 1B (??) speakers that used the original Heil AMT ribbon many years ago and would sit transfixed in front of the speaker in amazement; wonderful to see a come-back of the extremely transparent and fast Heil ribbon tweeter, but if you've never heard speakers with ribbon tweeter before, I would suggest to have an audition. Ribbon drivers are amazingly airy and ultra smooth; but they have a signature sound of their own that you want to test before buying, and as long term a test as possible because over time you would hear this "signature" better (to my ears, "cold" or "metallic," for lack of better description).

Hybrid-type speakers (ribbon treble, dynamic mid and bass) could have problems with integration of the ultra fast ribbon tweeter to the woofer. For example, the Quested model that matches 10 inch woofer with the tweeter might have a hole in the middle where treble crosses over to bass, so you may like the one with 8 inch woofer better than 10; the Quested model with the midrange driver (3 way vs. 2 way) is more than likely the one with the least "hole in the model," etc.
Also, in a multi-channel system, another apsect to be mindful of is IMHO it's not a good idea to mix and match new ribbon speaker to your current system of dynamic speakers if you worry about matching timbre of the speakers. They are going to sound very different.

These tweeters are destined to become more popular. If you can't hear Quested, at least look for Martin Logan dealers and have a listen - these you probably could bring home for auditioning. There is also a review in my all time favorite rag tongue.gif here http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/ess-connoisseur-series-amt-450-loudspeaker/ .
post #56 of 115
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Originally Posted by cannga View Post

Not a good idea. I had the ESS 1B (??) speakers that used the original Heil AMT ribbon many years ago and would sit transfixed in front of the speaker in amazement; wonderful to see a come-back of the extremely transparent and fast Heil ribbon tweeter, but if you've never heard speakers with ribbon tweeter before, I would suggest to have an audition. Ribbon drivers are amazingly airy and ultra smooth; but they have a signature sound of their own that you want to test before buying, and as long term a test as possible because over time you would hear this "signature" better (to my ears, "cold" or "metallic," for lack of better description).

Hybrid-type speakers (ribbon treble, dynamic mid and bass) could have problems with integration of the ultra fast ribbon tweeter to the woofer. For example, the Quested model that matches 10 inch woofer with the tweeter might have a hole in the middle where treble crosses over to bass, so you may like the one with 8 inch woofer better than 10; the Quested model with the midrange driver (3 way vs. 2 way) is more than likely the one with the least "hole in the model," etc.
Also, in a multi-channel system, another apsect to be mindful of is IMHO it's not a good idea to mix and match new ribbon speaker to your current system of dynamic speakers if you worry about matching timbre of the speakers. They are going to sound very different.

These tweeters are destined to become more popular. If you can't hear Quested, at least look for Martin Logan dealers and have a listen - these you probably could bring home for auditioning. There is also a review in my all time favorite rag tongue.gif here http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/ess-connoisseur-series-amt-450-loudspeaker/ .

I presume you have NEVER heard other implementations from Selah audio, Legacy Audio, Salk, etc to name a few. You need to get out more and listen to better speakers out there cool.gif
post #57 of 115
You have presumed wrong.
post #58 of 115
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Originally Posted by cannga View Post

Not a good idea. I had the ESS 1B (??) speakers that used the original Heil AMT ribbon many years ago and would sit transfixed in front of the speaker in amazement; wonderful to see a come-back of the extremely transparent and fast Heil ribbon tweeter, but if you've never heard speakers with ribbon tweeter before, I would suggest to have an audition. Ribbon drivers are amazingly airy and ultra smooth; but they have a signature sound of their own that you want to test before buying, and as long term a test as possible because over time you would hear this "signature" better (to my ears, "cold" or "metallic," for lack of better description).

Hybrid-type speakers (ribbon treble, dynamic mid and bass) could have problems with integration of the ultra fast ribbon tweeter to the woofer. For example, the Quested model that matches 10 inch woofer with the tweeter might have a hole in the middle where treble crosses over to bass, so you may like the one with 8 inch woofer better than 10; the Quested model with the midrange driver (3 way vs. 2 way) is more than likely the one with the least "hole in the model," etc.
Also, in a multi-channel system, another apsect to be mindful of is IMHO it's not a good idea to mix and match new ribbon speaker to your current system of dynamic speakers if you worry about matching timbre of the speakers. They are going to sound very different.

These tweeters are destined to become more popular. If you can't hear Quested, at least look for Martin Logan dealers and have a listen - these you probably could bring home for auditioning. There is also a review in my all time favorite rag tongue.gif here http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/ess-connoisseur-series-amt-450-loudspeaker/ .

Hi

We will measure for this and see. But all speakers have some sort of sonic signature and I'm OK with that. Dynamics are #1 but I am hoping for a less fatiguing sound than horns, too. Going to try them out and have Curt optimize them for my room via Trinnov and then make a Decision.

As far as the speed of the high freq driver, we can measure for that, too.

Thanks
post #59 of 115
What Jeff said, we have the tools, and we have them in place in our rooms, that is why we demo in house.
post #60 of 115
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Originally Posted by cannga View Post

Ribbon drivers are amazingly airy and ultra smooth; but they have a signature sound of their own that you want to test before buying, and as long term a test as possible because over time you would hear this "signature" better (to my ears, "cold" or "metallic," for lack of better description).

Hybrid-type speakers (ribbon treble, dynamic mid and bass) could have problems with integration of the ultra fast ribbon tweeter to the woofer. For example, the Quested model that matches 10 inch woofer with the tweeter might have a hole in the middle where treble crosses over to bass, so you may like the one with 8 inch woofer better than 10; the Quested model with the midrange driver (3 way vs. 2 way) is more than likely the one with the least "hole in the model," etc. .

If you read through my posts I did say in the beginning that the speakers when new were showing their pedigree. Ie sonic signature. After break in it all goes out the window and you can very easily confuse these for Esotars, which are totally non metallic sounding. Except the esotars would have to have a massive coil and bigger drivers to reach these spl's.
Edited by CINERAMAX - 12/7/13 at 12:46pm
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