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post #301 of 323
No, it doesn't mean that at all. 1080p24 3D from a BD player takes less bandwidth than 1080p60 2D.
post #302 of 323
several months ago I moved my HT equipment to another location to accommodate my second sub (SVS PB12 Plus) that meant to purchase a new HDMI cable, so I purchased a Monoprice 30 Ft Ultra slim HDMI cable with RedMere Technology. My TV is a 62" Toshiba DLP purchased in 2005, the lamp is not even a year old. Since I have used this cable the picture quality has deteriorated, it is much darker even when the lamp is on high bright mode there is not much difference. I was wondering if I chose the right cable for its length, or is it the TV lamp that is getting weaker? My HT receiver is a Denon 4311CI
post #303 of 323
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Originally Posted by sailordotcom View Post

several months ago I moved my HT equipment to another location to accommodate my second sub (SVS PB12 Plus) that meant to purchase a new HDMI cable, so I purchased a Monoprice 30 Ft Ultra slim HDMI cable with RedMere Technology. My TV is a 62" Toshiba DLP purchased in 2005, the lamp is not even a year old. Since I have used this cable the picture quality has deteriorated, it is much darker even when the lamp is on high bright mode there is not much difference. I was wondering if I chose the right cable for its length, or is it the TV lamp that is getting weaker? My HT receiver is a Denon 4311CI
HDMI technology can be blamed for a lot of problems, but the one you describe isn't one of them. I think it's probably the lamp. At least what you describe is exactly what lamps do as they age.
post #304 of 323
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Originally Posted by Colm View Post

No, it doesn't mean that at all. 1080p24 3D from a BD player takes less bandwidth than 1080p60 2D.

Oh ok, great! smile.gif . So what content would a standard tech 35ft cable not work on then, exactly?

ps. the 35ft cable I got works fine with my receiver, projector and blu rays.
post #305 of 323
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Originally Posted by sailordotcom View Post

several months ago I moved my HT equipment to another location to accommodate my second sub (SVS PB12 Plus) that meant to purchase a new HDMI cable, so I purchased a Monoprice 30 Ft Ultra slim HDMI cable with RedMere Technology. My TV is a 62" Toshiba DLP purchased in 2005, the lamp is not even a year old. Since I have used this cable the picture quality has deteriorated, it is much darker even when the lamp is on high bright mode there is not much difference. I was wondering if I chose the right cable for its length, or is it the TV lamp that is getting weaker? My HT receiver is a Denon 4311CI

Remember, the HDMI cable just sends digital information (bits). Those 1s and 0s don't change over time but your bulb does. Some bulbs can go in as little as 6 months particularly after a move where humidity got in or there were some bumps. Check the TV section of the AVSForum for more help with bulbs.

On the HDMI side, I think our standard answer #1 may be of help to you,

There are only two types of HDMI cables. They are High Speed (also known as Category 2) cables and Standard Speed (also known as Category 1) cables. Each type has a few options. These two types of cables were defined by the HDMI Org to simplify cable selection for a consumer. Both types of cables have the same pinouts.

High Speed HDMI cables are capable of handling any HDMI signal currently used or planned. Standard Speed HDMI cables are guaranteed to be able to send 1080i and 720p images. Standard Speed cables may be able to handle high bandwidth signals such as 1080p/60, 1080p/24 2D or 1080p/24 3D, but it is not guaranteed. High Speed cables have passed tests to show that they can handle 1080p/60, 4K, etc.

http://www.hdmi.org/learningcenter/faq.aspx#49

The cable does not "know" what it is sending. It is a dumb cable. If only takes bits from one end of the cable to the other. The only thing you have to make sure is that the cable has enough bandwidth to send the signals you want without bit errors. Bit errors will show up as obvious screen defects such as lines, sparkles or screens that change to a solid color or even no picture at all. Bit errors do not cause loss of resolution or loss of contrast, color or anything else that is usually considered "picture quality".

So, for 1080p/24 3D or 1080p/60 2D you would want a High Speed HDMI cable and try to use ones that either provide the certificate online or have great user reviews, such as Monoprice or Blue Jean Cables or some of the others you'll find in this forum's archives. One warning is that some companies claim to have high speed cables that are not. Make sure you check reviews or see their certification. Sometimes they certify a shorter cable for high speed and then claim that longer cables are also covered. The longer cables are not. The maximum length for a certified passive High Speed cable is just over 25 feet. Look at a Redmere technology active cable or converting to Cat 6 for longer runs requiring a high speed HDMI cable.

The HDMI Org has stated that passive High Speed HDMI cables will work with HDMI 2.0 equipment. Monoprice's website shows Redmere cables that are reportedly compatible with HDMI 2.0. However, there is no way for a consumer to test compatibility at this time since HDMI 2.0 devices are not yet available.

Edited by alk3997 - 1/3/14 at 9:10am
post #306 of 323
^^^^^ first Standard Answer #1 for the year. Yes, I am keeping count biggrin.gif
post #307 of 323
Excellent! Hope you noticed the new paragraph (at the end).
post #308 of 323
Damn! I missed that. So this should be Standard Answer #1.1 then? Blue on black is hard for me to read frown.gif
post #309 of 323
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Originally Posted by sailordotcom View Post

several months ago I moved my HT equipment to another location to accommodate my second sub (SVS PB12 Plus) that meant to purchase a new HDMI cable, so I purchased a Monoprice 30 Ft Ultra slim HDMI cable with RedMere Technology. My TV is a 62" Toshiba DLP purchased in 2005, the lamp is not even a year old. Since I have used this cable the picture quality has deteriorated, it is much darker even when the lamp is on high bright mode there is not much difference. I was wondering if I chose the right cable for its length, or is it the TV lamp that is getting weaker? My HT receiver is a Denon 4311CI

I had one of the 62inch toshiba, time for a new bulb
post #310 of 323
those lamps sure don't last long, I had one which only lasted a couple of months, they say 10,000 hours, they must mean minutes lol, well I want to purchase a new TV this coming summer, probably will go with 4k technology. thanks for all your help and comments. cheers and Happy New Year.
post #311 of 323
Why 4K? There is a good discussion in one of the TV forums about whether the improvements in 4K are actually visible to the average person.
post #312 of 323
can you give me a link to the thread?
post #313 of 323
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Originally Posted by sailordotcom View Post

can you give me a link to the thread?

Not exactly OT but here it is:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1496104/consumer-reports-asks-and-answers-is-uhd-worth-buying-now
post #314 of 323
thanks alk
post #315 of 323
I have the RedMere 60 foot product ID 9173, in October mine stopped working. I was running it through a Denon 3313 and then tested it with a direct connection from my cable box to my display and still nothing. It lasted about 14 months and Monoprice sent me a new one promptly and covered the shipping of the deflective one back. Just yesterday the replacement went out, so I'm going to send this one back for replacement but now that this is my second cable I'm wondering if anyone has found a better solution for a 60 foot HDMI cable? I'm concerned this is going to continue happening, I hope not and maybe I've just been unlucky but thought I'd ask.

My configuration is that I have a wiring closet with all my components and run my cables up through 2 inch PVC pipes to the attic and back down through PVC to my Panasonic 65VT50 in my living room, so there's no bends or tight corners causing any tension on the cable and once connected it's never touched. I also have all my componenrts(AVR, cable box, ect.) in the wiring closet on a UPS.

Thanks for any advice.
Edited by jreedar - 1/11/14 at 3:11pm
post #316 of 323
You have conduit installed so what about something like CAT-6 to HDBaseT?
post #317 of 323
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

You have conduit installed so what about something like CAT-6 to HDBaseT?

Thanks I hadn't researched those before but it sounds like reliable solution, which is just what I'm looking for.

I've found these Atlona brand receiver and transmitter:

transmitter:
http://www.firefold.com/mobile/at-hdtx

receiver:
http://www.firefold.com/mobile/at-hdrx-hdbaset

Is there a HDBaseT transmitter/receiver you have used or recommend?
post #318 of 323
Using CAT with an Extender pair is a better long term plan than any ‘active’ HDMI cable – if the Extender pair ever become ‘obsolete’ it will be simple enough to swap them out without having to pull in new cable.

Have a look at our HD70STPEX model – it is HDBaseT-lite with PoC, you only require a PSU at the Transmitter to simplify the install at the Display end of the cable run.

http://www.octavainc.com/HDMI_extender_HD70STPEX.html

Joe
post #319 of 323
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Originally Posted by Joe Fernand View Post

Using CAT with an Extender pair is a better long term plan than any ‘active’ HDMI cable – if the Extender pair ever become ‘obsolete’ it will be simple enough to swap them out without having to pull in new cable.

Have a look at our HD70STPEX model – it is HDBaseT-lite with PoC, you only require a PSU at the Transmitter to simplify the install at the Display end of the cable run.

http://www.octavainc.com/HDMI_extender_HD70STPEX.html

Joe

Thanks for the info. Will this work well when the HDMI input is out of a AVR(Denon 3313), the example shown shows the HDMI input coming directly from the HD set top box, so just wanted to ask since my implementation will be from an AVR to the HDBaseT transmitter. If this is possible then this looks perfect for my situation.

Also can this unit be used to split the output to multiple outputs? I saw this product: http://www.octavainc.com/HDMI_extender_LAN_HDDSX.html#HDDSXspec but it didn't keep the same video resolution as the HD70STPEX model.

Thanks.
Edited by jreedar - 1/13/14 at 7:10am
post #320 of 323
It's the same signal and the extender has power provided to it. So, it will work just as well.
post #321 of 323
HDMI is so complex and you rely on some many variables in each piece of kit it would be impossible to say there will never be a system where you hit a problem – what I can say is we have many customers with AVR’s using the HD70STP-EX and our software team are pretty good at resolving connectivity issues when we do hit a snag.

The HD70STP-EX is a Point to Point extender – we have a Multi-Zone/Multi-Source Matrix version available and will likely release a Distribution Amp version at some stage.

The HDDSX is HD over LAN and better suited to Commercial applications as it employs motion jpeg compression.

Joe
post #322 of 323

Hi Joe,

 

Apologies for hijacking this thread. The HD70STP-EX looks exactly what I am after for the same purpose.

Will it work with wall plates? i.e. direct shielded cat6 runs (20m) terminating onto wall plates, or does it HAVE to be direct cables to each unit.

Can it be paired with a splitter also?

 

Thanks

post #323 of 323
The Tech boys in Taiwan say 'always go direct' - the real world requires that our customers often run them via wall plates and include them in some fairly complex Switching and Distribution wiring plans.

Joe
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