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post #31 of 92
Installed Plex and Plex server yesterday. Most of the things I tried errored out, a lot of the Plex Channels did not work or worked partially.
I did want to say at least netflix works but then neflix failed to start and I hard rebooted the box. When playing around, the box often hangs for 10 seconds or so and you don't really know what it's doing.

This looks like a product under development with major features not working at all. Mine is going back, I'm happy to tolerate a certain level of imperfection as an early adopter, but it's just not useful enough right now to use at all.
post #32 of 92
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Originally Posted by stepmback View Post

Do think the updates will increase performance (ie speed) or is that hardware/memorey driven?

Ya know, it's kinda difficult to say, but I have to imagine that even if it is a memory or hardware problem, they will be able to optimize it a bit more. I'm gonna stick it out, it's just $100 and the product has potential.
post #33 of 92
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Originally Posted by hmcewin View Post

I, too found the wifi range very poor. My Roku player sitting next to the Vizio never got a hiccup while the Vizio was buffering or crapping out entirely. This thing needs some serious work on the software.

Glad I'm not the only one to notice that. smile.gif
post #34 of 92
Can someone help me out because vizio could not even answer my question? Is the costar connected to play store or not? I dont care about via apps I want play store apps. Is this basically an android media server?
post #35 of 92
I see google play store, not sure if that is what you wanted to check
post #36 of 92
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Originally Posted by hmcewin View Post

I, too found the wifi range very poor. My Roku player sitting next to the Vizio never got a hiccup while the Vizio was buffering or crapping out entirely. This thing needs some serious work on the software.

Same here. I decided to stick to the Roku HD I got for less than half the price.
post #37 of 92
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Originally Posted by csrini1 View Post

I see google play store, not sure if that is what you wanted to check

If you can see it then it probably works. Have you installed any apps from play store? Are you familiar with android devices..... does costar appear like an android tablet with some vizio or Google TV overlay?
post #38 of 92
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Originally Posted by WVUTampaAlum View Post

If you can see it then it probably works. Have you installed any apps from play store? Are you familiar with android devices..... does costar appear like an android tablet with some vizio or Google TV overlay?

yes, I have installed some apps and they worked(though not the same way they work on google tv atleast). This is exactly the same as google tv for me, except the onlive stuff, which does not work yet anyways.
post #39 of 92
Awesome. Do you know if you can side load apps? Anyone try to load XBMC?
post #40 of 92
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Co-Star got new firmware update – here
post #41 of 92
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Originally Posted by rdb4133 View Post

Same here. I decided to stick to the Roku HD I got for less than half the price.

How could you possibly compare a Roku Player to the features of the Co-Star!?

First off, the Co-Star has an Ethernet port the Roku does not, and if you want any type of decent streaming, Ethernet blows wi-fi away any day of the week. The Roku, or any Wi-fi streamer can, at best, stream 720p, theoretically it could do 1080p, but good luck with that.. The Vizio Co-Star, over Ethernet can stream Full HD 1080p! Plus the Co-Star has wi-fi if you don't know how to run a simple Ethernet cable.

The Co-Star has a remote control that has a keyboard and touchpad! Plus you don't have to change TV Inputs on the Co-Star to bring up its menu's, everything is displayed right on what your currently watching! Then there's Google TV, Internet with flash, Play Store, Games, hopefully soon XBMC.

You say you saved $50 with a Roku? I'm sorry, but with Roku's pathetic features compared to a $100 Co-Star, you unfortunately got ripped off.
Edited by copotica - 8/25/12 at 2:00am
post #42 of 92
Except, from reading the post here, the Roku works and the Co-Star doesn't.

I was keeping an eye on this because of the price but, no 5.1 for Netflix = no sale for me. Plus, all the other bugs being mentioned here really make it seem like everyone who bought one are beta testers.
post #43 of 92
After the firmware update this morning Netflix is now 5.1 Dolby Digital Plus.
post #44 of 92
With this kind of product, it's always a tough decision whether to release w/o some features and provide incremental improvements, or hold back until the product is "perfect" (hint.. it never is).

I remember seeing a video about the early PC days, and it was hilarious how little the first PCs actually did. Ultimately, the community of users will drive this product. Be patient, stay positive and feedback your constructive criticism. To come on a forum like this and say the product is "horrible" has very little value.
post #45 of 92
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Co-Star Netflix App 5.1 Dolby Digital Plus (5.1DD+) audio settings - here.
post #46 of 92
For what it's worth, I've spent the past few days with the Co-Star and put up my thoughts on my often neglected site: http://www.technobabble.co/vizio-co-star-review/
post #47 of 92
Good job.. a very balanced and helpful review!
post #48 of 92
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Originally Posted by pusta View Post

For what it's worth, I've spent the past few days with the Co-Star and put up my thoughts on my often neglected site: http://www.technobabble.co/vizio-co-star-review/

Good Job smile.gif
post #49 of 92
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Originally Posted by copotica View Post

How could you possibly compare a Roku Player to the features of the Co-Star!?
First off, the Co-Star has an Ethernet port the Roku does not, and if you want any type of decent streaming, Ethernet blows wi-fi away any day of the week. The Roku, or any Wi-fi streamer can, at best, stream 720p, theoretically it could do 1080p, but good luck with that.. The Vizio Co-Star, over Ethernet can stream Full HD 1080p! Plus the Co-Star has wi-fi if you don't know how to run a simple Ethernet cable.
The Co-Star has a remote control that has a keyboard and touchpad! Plus you don't have to change TV Inputs on the Co-Star to bring up its menu's, everything is displayed right on what your currently watching! Then there's Google TV, Internet with flash, Play Store, Games, hopefully soon XBMC.
You say you saved $50 with a Roku? I'm sorry, but with Roku's pathetic features compared to a $100 Co-Star, you unfortunately got ripped off.

Wow, Ethernet is better than Wi-Fi? Thanks for letting us know that!

Come on man, in this day and age, with Wireless N pretty much the norm, more people are doing Wi-Fi streaming and not having performance issues. We have the Vizio Co-Star in our upstairs bedroom, where our Dish DVR is, and we don't have wiring in there for Ethernet. That said, in that room we have an XBOX 360, connected via Wi-Fi that works PERFECTLY, even in online gaming, and streams like a champ, with the little $50 wireless N adapter that Microsoft makes for it. Why can't Vizio, in a box designed with streaming and Wi-Fi obviously in mind, make it connect as well? The reception is not only weak, it is quite weak, weaker than my PS Vita, IPad, and XBOX 360. Something is amiss with the Wi-Fi on this thing, it almost seems unstable, like it can't hold a fast connection.

Anyway, yeah, it's got a keyboard and touchpad!!!!! But for all it's features, the guy might be happier with the Roku because it works and streams like a pro. That says something to me.

I'm sticking it out with this device and I'm optimistic it improves substantially, but it's a bit disappointing that a device this hyped up by Vizio, is a little bit of a letdown.
post #50 of 92
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Originally Posted by pusta View Post

For what it's worth, I've spent the past few days with the Co-Star and put up my thoughts on my often neglected site: http://www.technobabble.co/vizio-co-star-review/

Good review!
post #51 of 92
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Originally Posted by copotica View Post

How could you possibly compare a Roku Player to the features of the Co-Star!?
First off, the Co-Star has an Ethernet port the Roku does not, and if you want any type of decent streaming, Ethernet blows wi-fi away any day of the week. The Roku, or any Wi-fi streamer can, at best, stream 720p, theoretically it could do 1080p, but good luck with that.. The Vizio Co-Star, over Ethernet can stream Full HD 1080p! Plus the Co-Star has wi-fi if you don't know how to run a simple Ethernet cable.
The Co-Star has a remote control that has a keyboard and touchpad! Plus you don't have to change TV Inputs on the Co-Star to bring up its menu's, everything is displayed right on what your currently watching! Then there's Google TV, Internet with flash, Play Store, Games, hopefully soon XBMC.
You say you saved $50 with a Roku? I'm sorry, but with Roku's pathetic features compared to a $100 Co-Star, you unfortunately got ripped off.

Hey genius, you do know that you can get an older model Roku with an ethernet port?
post #52 of 92
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Originally Posted by rdb4133 View Post

Hey genius, you do know that you can get an older model Roku with an ethernet port?

Not to mention the still current Roku2 XS with ethernet. Priced same as Co-Star.
post #53 of 92
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Originally Posted by pusta View Post

For what it's worth, I've spent the past few days with the Co-Star and put up my thoughts on my often neglected site: http://www.technobabble.co/vizio-co-star-review/

Excellent review!
post #54 of 92
Anyone got a shipping address for vizio returns? they are giving me a lot of trouble returning the thing. Several attempts to get through to someone who can issue return authorization have failed or resulted in no response. Really poor customer support experience with them.
post #55 of 92
I don't offhand, but have you tried chat.vizio.com for their live chat with support? I used it when my order was lost and they were very helpful.
post #56 of 92
A couple of quick questions for those of you that have the new Co-Star.

Can this be hooked up using an AVR .... ie. Comcast Box -> Co-Start -> AVR -> Tv ?
With the Logitech Revue you couldn't do that ( HDMI problems ) but you can with a Tivo just not with a Comcast box..

Also, does the C0-Star pass through the video signal as is or are you stuck with a set resolution ?

Thanks,
Mikef5
post #57 of 92
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Originally Posted by Mikef5 View Post

A couple of quick questions for those of you that have the new Co-Star.
Can this be hooked up using an AVR .... ie. Comcast Box -> Co-Start -> AVR -> Tv ?
With the Logitech Revue you couldn't do that ( HDMI problems ) but you can with a Tivo just not with a Comcast box..
Also, does the C0-Star pass through the video signal as is or are you stuck with a set resolution ?
Thanks,
Mikef5

Yes, I have mine set up Dish DVR>CoStar>AVR>TV.

You can select the resolution 1080p, 1080i, 720 p and auto. The image it presents is very sharp. I keep mine on Auto and projecting on a 110" sreen it presents an excellent image.

I like the Co Star except for the Wi Fi hookup. It is unreliable even within 10 ft. of the router. I also used cat5 wire and still had difficulty streaming Netflix. I have a Roku xs and a PS3 sitting right next to the Costar that have no problem streaming anything I select. Of the devices, Costar, PS3 and Roku, the Roku is the most solid and reliable both on cat 5 and wireless. Have not decided whether to keep or return the Costar.

Not impressed with the apps available. If Google does not take care of this, I do not see any Google TV being successful.

Hope this helps.

Henry
post #58 of 92
I tried contacting them a few times, but have only received canned answers, pointers to tech support, or refusal to take it back. All their responses appear to be geared towards getting the user to give up and not return the device. I promise you I'll never buy a product from them again.
post #59 of 92
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Originally Posted by hmcewin View Post

Yes, I have mine set up Dish DVR>CoStar>AVR>TV.
You can select the resolution 1080p, 1080i, 720 p and auto. The image it presents is very sharp. I keep mine on Auto and projecting on a 110" sreen it presents an excellent image.
I like the Co Star except for the Wi Fi hookup. It is unreliable even within 10 ft. of the router. I also used cat5 wire and still had difficulty streaming Netflix. I have a Roku xs and a PS3 sitting right next to the Costar that have no problem streaming anything I select. Of the devices, Costar, PS3 and Roku, the Roku is the most solid and reliable both on cat 5 and wireless. Have not decided whether to keep or return the Costar.
Not impressed with the apps available. If Google does not take care of this, I do not see any Google TV being successful.
Hope this helps.
Henry
Thanks for the input Henry.
Dish also worked with the Logitech Revue but not with a Comcast box and the Auto feature for resolution on the Logitech didn't work either, nice to see it works with the Co-Star.
I should just dump all my Comcast boxes and go strictly with Tivo's, especially now that they work with Comcast's VOD.
I think maybe I should wait on the Co-Star until it matures a little more, not good if the Wi-Fi is as bad as people are saying. Again, thanks for the info.

Laters,
Mikef5
post #60 of 92
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Originally Posted by MartinK View Post

I tried contacting them a few times, but have only received canned answers, pointers to tech support, or refusal to take it back. All their responses appear to be geared towards getting the user to give up and not return the device. I promise you I'll never buy a product from them again.

Why don't you sell it on eBay for a small profit? smile.gif
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