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post #31 of 268
I bought this set at my local Costco a week ago for $1499 (plus tax). I was thinking it would be cool for all my hi def mkv content (equal amounts of 720p and 1080p content) streamed from my Xtreamer sidewinder 3 but.. alas.. most of it just does not scale correctly and the zoom options make the films just look wrong. The 3D effect on Avatar is certainly nice, better actually than my 2 year old 55" Sony Bravia HX800 with active 3D. I am definitely a fan of passive 3D if for nothing else than the glasses don't suck to wear for more than 5 minutes.

This set is going back though and I am going to replace it with the 65in VIZIO Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D.. I can get the same size widescreen image as the 58" cinemawide and i really don't mind the letterboxing given that all the content scales correctly. Looking forward to trying out the new Halo 4 on it too smile.gif. Sams Club has the 65" Vizio in stock for $1489 right now and they have the same 90 day return policy as Costco so it's a pretty safe bet..
post #32 of 268
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Originally Posted by spartann71 View Post

I was thinking it would be cool for all my hi def mkv content (equal amounts of 720p and 1080p content) streamed from my Xtreamer sidewinder 3 but.. alas.. most of it just does not scale correctly and the zoom options make the films just look wrong.

bummer. that's what I wanted to use it for. Sounds like I should look at something else. Thinking about picking up a 50" or 60" vizio. They look pretty nice and good price too. Thanks for the semi-review. Did you ever try hooking up a computer to it? Curious as to how it looked.
post #33 of 268
I didn't hook up a PC to it.. thought about hooking up the Mac Mini that I used to use for a Plex client but decided it wasn't worth the effort since I really don't like this TV anyway. On my way out right now to pick up the Vizio 65" 240hz Theater 3D set from a Sam's Club, their selling it for $1489 right now.. pretty good price for a 65" 3D set. Nice to have the same 90 day return policy there as Costco has since we might see some significant additional price drops on these sets in the January / February time frame when they start rolling out the new year's models. Ultimately I want to hang a 70" or 80" passive 3D set in my media room but right now they are just to much $$ for me to stomach smile.gif..
post #34 of 268
$999 for Black Friday. Kinda wish I would have waited but I snagged a 55" Samsung that I can't return for $800.
post #35 of 268
i was looking at this TV for PC gaming only, using a 42 westinghouse right now and want to get into 3D gaming anyone tried this set with a PC ? at 999.00 its pricy for just the PC but a it is not much more then the new DELLs
post #36 of 268
I guess this is not that popular. I just came back from my local Costco and saw that it finally got some in stock. These were slashed to $999 and there were still 8 units left.

The new 70" Vizio's were marked at less than $1500 and there still were 3 units. There were a whole bunch of the new 60" Vizio's as well.

These, I think, are great prices and am a bit surprised that so many were left over.
post #37 of 268
Wow got to the end of this and am hoping I dont regret buying this. Got the last one on Amazon for $1070 shipped from Tiger Direct. It of course has not gone out yet so not too late to cancel. I only wanted it for movies but even that soulds challenging. I remember when these we announced and thought WOW. Now I am concerned.
post #38 of 268
looks like the TV is exactly what I want a strictly movie TV, almost everything out there is in Cinemascope per the thread below

http://www.avsforum.com/t/839910/list-of-2-35-1-oar-media
post #39 of 268
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Originally Posted by rx2man View Post

Wow got to the end of this and am hoping I dont regret buying this. Got the last one on Amazon for $1070 shipped from Tiger Direct. It of course has not gone out yet so not too late to cancel. I only wanted it for movies but even that soulds challenging. I remember when these we announced and thought WOW. Now I am concerned.

How did you end up paying $1070? Did Amazon charge tax and/or shipping?

Amazon charges tax for my state so I ended up getting mine directly from Tiger Direct which did not. I got a free shipping to boot. biggrin.gif

I am psyched. This is one cool TV.
post #40 of 268
Should have posted this a couple days ago. If you're in the 20603 area code, Costco has them for $999 11/26 only. Only 1 left I could see.
post #41 of 268
It's still 999 on vizio.com website, so I'm pretty sure they're still on sale at Costco etc.
post #42 of 268
I currently own a 16:9 set and to fell the screen from 2.35/2.40 DVDs and Blu Rays I’ve been using the LG BD690 Blu Ray player’s zoom function that works pretty well-it doesn’t over magnify the image to the point that I’m missing the top and bottom of the picture like some other players.

I would think that this method would work with the Cinemawide set.

Has any owner of the Cinemawide found that to be the case?

Thanks,
post #43 of 268
So i was able to pick one of these up on amazon during the 999.99 sale. Ive hooked it up and replaced my LG LED TV, and i must say that im impressed with the tv so far. The picture quality is amazing when it comes to blu ray movies. Watching regular HD tv programs on this tv isnt bad, doesnt bother me. Even when stretched out it still looks pretty good.

Pros:
-Excellent BluRay picture quality
-Speakers are actually pretty good, although i will be adding a sound bar soon.
-Nice bezel on tv
-Price tag
-Yahoo fantasy football app



Some Cons:
-No YouTube App
-Remote inconsistent with pairing up to tv
-No MLB.Tv App
-Screen is pretty reflective
post #44 of 268
I saw this TV at Costco during black Friday and really liked what I was seeing. However I waited on it as I wanted to do some research on it. Most of what I read is "Mixed" and almost decided against it because its so non standard and it will have to scale pretty much everything in some fashion. Also for 16:9 material its really only a 46" TV. Hard to except that after having a 60" display in my home theater. I debated it and debated it. Read it was a limited production run of only about 1,000 units. I went back and looked at it 3 times. Always excited to see it but then turned away as just to funky and non standard. Against my better judgement I decided to buy it today during my 4th visit to give it a try. I am kind of torn between really excited and wondering if I should just go with a larger 16:9 display?

Problem is my home theater is kind of an odd set up in a condo and my seating position is about 8' back. With my 60" 16:9 display its about perfect with CinemaScope 2.35:1 material providing the envelopment I desire but I find it a bit fatiguing with regular 16:9 1.85:1 material. So I hope this set creates the envelopment I desire and a less fatiguing on regular 16:9 material. It really helps that all I do on my Home Theater is watch movies. I don't have cable or satellite service and most of my movies are 2.35:1 but a sizable amount of 1.85:1 material.

One thing I am concerned about is the rare mixed aspect ratio films like The Dark Knight?

These films are pretty rare and that might just be the only one in my collection. On a regular 16:9 TV it will letterbox the CinemaScope stuff and open up for the IMAX shot stuff and really provide the desired affect. On this TV it will likely shrink the picture to a 16:9 aspect or worse pillar box it and you will completely loose any desired larger affect!

Hopefully this TV works out. Its basically purchased on trial witch I hate to do. I seem to like it about as much as I hate it at the moment. At least the price is not to bad at the moment. I would have never paid original MSRP for this thing.
post #45 of 268
Got this over Black Friday weekend at Costco for $999 (plus tax and shipping). It'll be here in a couple of days, and I'm still debating whether I've done a bonehead thing. Since Vizio was selling it for $2,500 mid-year (and Costco just raised the price back to $1,299 after Black Friday Weekend) it seems like a pretty good deal for a cinephile person like myself that watches a ton of anamorphic content. I don't plan to ditch my 47" Olevia 747i yet (though it's getting up there in age and will have to be replaced in a few months) so they can sit side-by-side. Plus, if the televisioninfo.com take that this is the best passive 3D TV out there is accurate, for a thousand bucks it's worth it for a 3D-loving cinephile like me.

Will report in a few days if I can get my damn PS3 to update (it won't let me for some reason) so that it can playback 3D BD's.
Edited by dad1153 - 12/1/12 at 10:53pm
post #46 of 268
Hello all,

I recently had the opportunity to connect this television to a htpc running Windows 7 Media Center. My local Costco in Enfield, CT has this television on the sales floor and currently has a stock level of three of these. They have a demo of the unit using Blu-Ray as a playback source and the picture looks amazing viewing 21:9 content. Mike Guilmette who is responsible for the television department at the Enfield location has been INCREDIBLE!

Mike allowed me to bring in my media center and connect it to the television. I was trilled. I am currently running the PC with an ATI Radeon HD 5450 video card with a maximum resolution of 2560 x 1080 from the DVI port, since the card's HDMI port is not capable of displaying 2560 x 1080.

However as you can see, despite the television's native resolution of 2560 x 1080, my video card only detects that the television is capable of displaying 1920 x 1080 or standard HD. Auto detection in the Radeon Control panel makes no difference. Where am I going wrong? The television does not have a DVI input so I am connecting the htpc through a DVI to HDMI cable. The television recognizes that the signal is DVI but does not display to the video card's full resolution. If I understand correctly the maximum resolution for VGA is a mere 2048x1536 which leaves that option out, and leaves allot to be desired in the quality department.

I am I missing something here or is this television incapable of accepting inputs at its native resolution? I could swear that Vizio listed the supported resolutions on a per input basis for this unit, but these specs have been since removed from the site. A recent call to Vizio has left these questions unanswered. The television is certified HDMI 1.4 and my card is certified HDMI 1.3. Don't know the version of the cable. Might try changing it out. Other then the cable, why the resolution drop?

Any help would be great.

Hats off to Mike at my local Costco, who in my opinion, is more knowledgeable and willing to extend a helping hand, then Vizio's own tech team. If it were not for Mike's help I would not be even this far along.

Eric

post #47 of 268
I got this TV set up tonight. I got a bit of a headache setting it up since the remote did not work and the owners manual mentioned nothing about it. However After turning the TV off and back on again I got a setup screen instructing me to push a few extra buttons on the remote for 5 seconds and it will start working. Also took some time to set up the WiFi connection and read the annoying terms of service for some of the internet stuff. I did a quick hand calibration and got it looking pretty darn good without going into detail with a test disc. 2.35:1 CinemaScope material on Blu Ray is simply stunning. It is what this TV was built for. Since it has to scale I would say its not as sharp as what you would get on a regular 16:9 display but its pretty close. I found myself actually preferring the slightly softer look from the scaling. Up next I tried regular DVD's and found that this display did a very good job and perhaps one of the best LCD's I have seen for DVD material.

One major concern and unfortunately one I did not think about was how the display handled subtitles? This is important because my wife has to use them. I was concerned that during the scaling process for 2.35:1 films it would cut them off. However in the 2 Blu Ray's I tried and 1 DVD the subtitles were displayed correctly. So far its early to break out the champagne but right now it appears this TV puts them in the proper place somehow. Not really sure how it does it but so far it was working correctly. If I find a movie with subtitles outside of the viewable area this TV will have to go back for sure since my wife relies on them. English is her 2nd language and she is also partially deaf.

My only real complaint with it so far is how it handles non anamorphic DVD's. No matter what I tried both with my DVD player and every zoom option on the TV I could not get it to blow up CinemaScope non anamorphic DVD's so they fill the entire screen. I know the loss of resolution would be brutal but it would be nice to at least have the option to do it. Best I could do is regular 16:9 mode with letter boxing on the top and bottom but at this point it looks to be about the same size as a 24" LCD screen. Really not happy about the lack of scaling abilities here. I know non anamorphic DVD's are bottom of the barrel old school but some movies were never released any other way. On all my other 16:9 displays I can zoom it to fill the entire screen just like an anamorphic DVD. Its not ideal but depending on the video quality of the disc it is often tolerable.

Another issue is the auto mode is a tad slow. One movie it took about 5 seconds to switch to full screen from a pillar box mode and it briefly during the opening credits switched back to 16:9 pillar box mode for a second or so like it was confused.

Right now the jury is still out on this display. It certainly seems to work very well with CinemaScope material playing on Blu-Ray's. Unfortunately not everything is in this format. I have already started missing the 16:9 display it replaced. The simple ability to scale non anamorphic DVD's and other modes such as dot by dot etc etc added to the functionality of regular 16:9 displays. Plus as I feared 16:9 is the golden standard and anything outside of that range is bound to have some limitations. I got another 88 days to decide but right now I am having a bit of buyers remorse and thinking maybe this TV should go back and stick with the more standard 16:9 display. I won't need 88 days but I will play with it for a few weeks and decide after that. I don't know it may grow on me and on paper its still cool but in the real world I feel its just to much of a non standard sort of display.

I have not tried the 3D yet witch I heard is another bonus on this player. I simply need to hook in a 3D Blu Ray player into the system. 3D is not a high priority but because it supports it I might as well try it out. I am excited that it has a passive 3D engine. The loss of resolution bothers me a little with passive 3D but I found the 3D itself to be Superior over most active systems. My findings are pretty unscientific and source material has a lot to do with what you see and how you see it (passive or active) but it seemed in my limited viewings that passive had a cleaner, brighter and more depth to the 3D field. Since this TV is really just a super wide 46" TV in theory from 8" away the loss in resolution should not be as noticeable as say a larger passive 3D 16:9 display.
post #48 of 268
Well, I noticed there is one problem with the auto mode. I was watching an anamorphic DVD and the TV cut in and out of 21:9 mode several times. I thought perhaps the HDMI cable was bad so I swapped it out but it still cut in and out which is really irritating and distracting. Tried it with Blurays and noticed that it did with it as well. Vizio should really give us the ability to "lock in" the 21:9 mode. mad.gif
post #49 of 268
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

Got this over Black Friday weekend at Costco for $999 (plus tax and shipping). It'll be here in a couple of days, and I'm still debating whether I've done a bonehead thing. Since Vizio was selling it for $2,500 mid-year (and Costco just raised the price back to $1,299 after Black Friday Weekend) it seems like a pretty good deal for a cinephile person like myself that watches a ton of anamorphic content. I don't plan to ditch my 47" Olevia 747i yet (though it's getting up there in age and will have to be replaced in a few months) so they can sit side-by-side. Plus, if the televisioninfo.com take that this is the best passive 3D TV out there is accurate, for a thousand bucks it's worth it for a 3D-loving cinephile like me.

Will report in a few days if I can get my damn PS3 to update (it won't let me for some reason) so that it can playback 3D BD's.

Can't wait for your input regarding standard definition content and how well it stands up to the 747i.  biggrin.gif

post #50 of 268
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Originally Posted by longhaul747 View Post

If I find a movie with subtitles outside of the viewable area this TV will have to go back for sure since my wife relies on them. English is her 2nd language and she is also partially deaf.

There is no set-in-stone standard for where the subtitles go when showing an anamorphic movie; most encoders put the subtitles in the picture area, not not all. You will definitely run into some anamorphic movies with subtitles out of the viewing area in 21:9. The questions then will be if there are too many of these movies for you or your wife to tolerate, and whether the one's you really like are worth the TV return hassle.
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Originally Posted by apostate 
Well, I noticed there is one problem with the auto mode. I was watching an anamorphic DVD and the TV cut in and out of 21:9 mode several times. I thought perhaps the HDMI cable was bad so I swapped it out but it still cut in and out which is really irritating and distracting. Tried it with Blurays and noticed that it did with it as well. Vizio should really give us the ability to "lock in" the 21:9 mode.

This is a complaint noted on the already-linked reviews in this thread to CNET.com and TVInfo.com. It would be a deal-breaker of if the picture came out of 21:9 several times and the user had to manually switch it back to 21:9 every time, but the TV re-activates 21:9. It's experimental technology on a one-of-a-kind HDTV display so I'm willing to cut Vizio a little slack. If it gets too annoying though, back to Costco it goes.
post #51 of 268
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

Will report in a few days if I can get my damn PS3 to update (it won't let me for some reason) so that it can playback 3D BD's.

I don't know how your trying to update the ps3, but you can download the ps3 firmware update on the internet, put it on a usb flash drive and install it manually. Just google for the ps3 firmware download file. Please post your thoughts on the 3d.
post #52 of 268
Is this DLNA capable? My Media widget doesn't see my Serviio at all. Cnet review says yes to DLNA but Vizio website flip-flopped back to No DLNA for Cinemawide. mad.gif Wish Vizio would make up their mind about DLNA. Apparently non-existent 50" Cinemawide is capable of DLNA but existing 58" Cinemawide isn't??? rolleyes.gif
post #53 of 268
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Originally Posted by Apostate View Post

Well, I noticed there is one problem with the auto mode. I was watching an anamorphic DVD and the TV cut in and out of 21:9 mode several times. I thought perhaps the HDMI cable was bad so I swapped it out but it still cut in and out which is really irritating and distracting. Tried it with Blurays and noticed that it did with it as well. Vizio should really give us the ability to "lock in" the 21:9 mode. mad.gif

I do not own the Cinemwide and I'm just curious.

From what you are saying, when the set's aspect ratio display mode is set to auto, the pictures display cuts in and out of 21:9 mode. According to user's manual of the set, if you were to manually select the display mode to either Normal, Zoom 1, or Zoom 2 at the resolution of 1080i or 1080p, would that eliminate the aspect ratio switching problem?

Thanks,
Alex
post #54 of 268
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Originally Posted by alexp120 View Post

I do not own the Cinemwide and I'm just curious.
From what you are saying, when the set's aspect ratio display mode is set to auto, the pictures display cuts in and out of 21:9 mode. According to user's manual of the set, if you were to manually select the display mode to either Normal, Zoom 1, or Zoom 2 at the resolution of 1080i or 1080p, would that eliminate the aspect ratio switching problem?
Thanks,
Alex

The problem is that viewing "Cinemascope" image under Normal mode would result in pillar-boxing which combined with black bars in the image result in "picture window" image, i.e., black bars on all four sides. Zoom 1 and Zoom 2 are not straight zoom. Those modes distort the image while zooming. For example, in Zoom 2 mode, the black bars will disappear but the image will be stretched out, resulting in "fat" people and objects.

Only mode that keeps correct proportion while eliminating the black bars is auto mode, which in my case, is not stable. Vizio really should give us the ability either to lock the 21:9 mode and/or give a straight zoom that doesn't distort the picture.
post #55 of 268
Been putting this television through it's paces....

I used cnet's calibration numbers and it made a good picture even better. Here soon I will put my own calibration disc and fine tune it but here lately what I find on the net usually is very satisfactory for me. For CinemaScope 2.35:1 material this TV is certainly impressive and still produces that WOW factor! Its just awesome putting in a blu ray and some of the trailers are Flat and then it opens up for the CinemaScope stuff really opening up that widescreen and larger feeling usually only reserved for the real cinema. For regular 16:9 material this display is not so much a big deal. I am now getting used to the size and no longer bothered by the smaller 16:9 screen and its just something you have to except with a display like this. Its not what we are used to at home but its how it has been in many cinemas for decades. 1.85:1 (Flat) is supposed to be considerably smaller and offer less impact then 2.35:1 (Scope) films or really the reverse. CinemaScope is supposed to offer a considerably larger and more impact then Flat films. With standard 16:9 displays its the opposite of how it really should be. Interestingly we have a cinema in town that operates like a 16:9 display in the smaller houses. The masking goes down for Scope films creating a smaller picture vertically then flat films witch appear almost over sized and back in the 35mm film days always out of focus. Always felt cheated in this style of auditorium that the industry calls "Wall to Wall" screens. The Academy Standard calls for a 21:9 screen give or take and the masking goes in sideways for Flat presentations just like how it is on the Vizio Cinemawide.

As much as I like it the jury is still out. Just because it works how it should be to meet Academy Standards this sort of thing makes for a very odd display at home. For me it really helps that all I do is watch movies on my home theater but one day that could change. Another issue is size. I did say I am getting used to it but this thing is really just an ultra wide 46" TV. Kind of hard to get used to after owning a 60" 16:9 display. To honest I am not so sure I have gotten used to it just me continuously saying this is how it really should be. Its really not that big of a TV even at 58". My home theater is fairly small in a narrow living room in a condo unit and I can easily accommodate a 71" version of one of these or even possibly larger. I just feel if such an effort was to be made to produce a 21:9 display they should have maybe set the sizing standard at 55" when in 16:9 mode. I believe if my voodoo math is correct the 71" version that has yet to be would be about the size of a 55" set in 16:9 mode. At this size you would really have that theater like feeling and not feel so deprived when watching Flat 16:9 material. I sit 8 or 9' back witch is not really all that far either. Of coarse being a flip flopper it would be nice to see a smaller version while I am at it. It would be cool to have one about the size of a 32" TV with an extra 6" on each side for a bedroom unit. I really don't think these 21:9 displays are really all that special and actual cost to produce and sell is not that bad for the niche market. I would like see more of then available at least as an online option. I can certainly see brick & mortar retailers not being interested in them....TO FUNKY!!

Another issue I am having is mine is also a bit buggy. Really don't understand what is happening but on 2 of the 4 movies I have tried it cut out of 21:9 mode and for few seconds give or take ran in 16:9 mode letter boxed giving me a 24" TV. Luckily it only lasted a few seconds before bouncing back to 21:9 mode. It was pretty darn annoying and I am trying to think what would cause it to do that? Only thing I can think of is some odd data on the disc confusing the TV for a few seconds. Probably could easily be solved if you could force the 21:9 mode for the material that supports that size. Really silly it does not have this ability especially since this TV caters to people who know what to do. Also one time I lost the signal completely for a few seconds. I have never had this happen with my blu ray players in the rack on any other display. Really I thought this sort of bug was fixed a few years ago. HDMI drop outs used to be kind of common but it has pretty much been put to bed now or at least I thought it has. Interestingly the last time I had an HDMI drop out was with a 47" Vizio back in 2008. Took that back on on a Samsung and never had a single drop out with that display.

Another issue I am having is for some darn reason its not saving my log in info for my wireless internet. In order to prevent people from hacking to my internet my password is a bit long and complex. Annoying yes but most devises save this information and you only need to log in once. Also still a bit annoyed I can't blow up my non anamorphic DVD's. I might be able to manually re-size them using the sizing option in one of the video sub menu's but I doubt it has the range. I am trying not to let this one bother me to much as I plan to replace these annoying DVD's when the blu ray versions come out if ever.

So far all subtitles seem to be in the picture and not being a problem but the jury is still out on this one.

As much as I like this TV I am still leaning towards returning it and going for a larger conventional 16:9 display. Its really the standard and I like one to one pixel mapping available on most standard 16:9 displays worth a darn. Also if it is truly buggy in its current form then it will not be worth having even if it does help recreate the cinema experience at home. I doubt Vizio really cares and I doubt we will see any sort of update for it. Looks to me like its being liquidated now as an idea that should have never been. If I could afford it and had the room I would keep it around just for the novelty of it but it would have to go back so I can get another replacement.
post #56 of 268
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Originally Posted by longhaul747 View Post

Been putting this television through it's paces....

I used cnet's calibration numbers and it made a good picture even better. Here soon I will put my own calibration disc and fine tune it but here lately what I find on the net usually is very satisfactory for me. For CinemaScope 2.35:1 material this TV is certainly impressive and still produces that WOW factor! Its just awesome putting in a blu ray and some of the trailers are Flat and then it opens up for the CinemaScope stuff really opening up that widescreen and larger feeling usually only reserved for the real cinema. For regular 16:9 material this display is not so much a big deal. I am now getting used to the size and no longer bothered by the smaller 16:9 screen and its just something you have to except with a display like this. Its not what we are used to at home but its how it has been in many cinemas for decades. 1.85:1 (Flat) is supposed to be considerably smaller and offer less impact then 2.35:1 (Scope) films or really the reverse. CinemaScope is supposed to offer a considerably larger and more impact then Flat films. With standard 16:9 displays its the opposite of how it really should be. Interestingly we have a cinema in town that operates like a 16:9 display in the smaller houses. The masking goes down for Scope films creating a smaller picture vertically then flat films witch appear almost over sized and back in the 35mm film days always out of focus. Always felt cheated in this style of auditorium that the industry calls "Wall to Wall" screens. The Academy Standard calls for a 21:9 screen give or take and the masking goes in sideways for Flat presentations just like how it is on the Vizio Cinemawide.

As much as I like it the jury is still out. Just because it works how it should be to meet Academy Standards this sort of thing makes for a very odd display at home. For me it really helps that all I do is watch movies on my home theater but one day that could change. Another issue is size. I did say I am getting used to it but this thing is really just an ultra wide 46" TV. Kind of hard to get used to after owning a 60" 16:9 display. To honest I am not so sure I have gotten used to it just me continuously saying this is how it really should be. Its really not that big of a TV even at 58". My home theater is fairly small in a narrow living room in a condo unit and I can easily accommodate a 71" version of one of these or even possibly larger. I just feel if such an effort was to be made to produce a 21:9 display they should have maybe set the sizing standard at 55" when in 16:9 mode. I believe if my voodoo math is correct the 71" version that has yet to be would be about the size of a 55" set in 16:9 mode. At this size you would really have that theater like feeling and not feel so deprived when watching Flat 16:9 material. I sit 8 or 9' back witch is not really all that far either. Of coarse being a flip flopper it would be nice to see a smaller version while I am at it. It would be cool to have one about the size of a 32" TV with an extra 6" on each side for a bedroom unit. I really don't think these 21:9 displays are really all that special and actual cost to produce and sell is not that bad for the niche market. I would like see more of then available at least as an online option. I can certainly see brick & mortar retailers not being interested in them....TO FUNKY!!

Another issue I am having is mine is also a bit buggy. Really don't understand what is happening but on 2 of the 4 movies I have tried it cut out of 21:9 mode and for few seconds give or take ran in 16:9 mode letter boxed giving me a 24" TV. Luckily it only lasted a few seconds before bouncing back to 21:9 mode. It was pretty darn annoying and I am trying to think what would cause it to do that? Only thing I can think of is some odd data on the disc confusing the TV for a few seconds. Probably could easily be solved if you could force the 21:9 mode for the material that supports that size. Really silly it does not have this ability especially since this TV caters to people who know what to do. Also one time I lost the signal completely for a few seconds. I have never had this happen with my blu ray players in the rack on any other display. Really I thought this sort of bug was fixed a few years ago. HDMI drop outs used to be kind of common but it has pretty much been put to bed now or at least I thought it has. Interestingly the last time I had an HDMI drop out was with a 47" Vizio back in 2008. Took that back on on a Samsung and never had a single drop out with that display.

Another issue I am having is for some darn reason its not saving my log in info for my wireless internet. In order to prevent people from hacking to my internet my password is a bit long and complex. Annoying yes but most devises save this information and you only need to log in once. Also still a bit annoyed I can't blow up my non anamorphic DVD's. I might be able to manually re-size them using the sizing option in one of the video sub menu's but I doubt it has the range. I am trying not to let this one bother me to much as I plan to replace these annoying DVD's when the blu ray versions come out if ever.

So far all subtitles seem to be in the picture and not being a problem but the jury is still out on this one.

As much as I like this TV I am still leaning towards returning it and going for a larger conventional 16:9 display. Its really the standard and I like one to one pixel mapping available on most standard 16:9 displays worth a darn. Also if it is truly buggy in its current form then it will not be worth having even if it does help recreate the cinema experience at home. I doubt Vizio really cares and I doubt we will see any sort of update for it. Looks to me like its being liquidated now as an idea that should have never been. If I could afford it and had the room I would keep it around just for the novelty of it but it would have to go back so I can get another replacement.

 

I'm sure if enough owners of this set ban together, Vizio should release a firmware update for it.  I would tell you and others thinking of returning this set to hang in there but only you can measure your level of tolerance for things like this.  I'd probably return it also. frown.gif

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I tried the Cnet settings but the picture looked yellow-tinted. The "movie" setting came pretty close color-wise according to Disney WOW Bluray. Using WOW, I managed to calibrate "brightness" well on the spot. The "contrast," on the other hand, is way off. I can't make the "stars disappear" (Disney WOW uses "star" chart to illustrate the correct setting). Can anyone give insight into correctly calibrating the "contrast"? Is there anything that I should turn off on both TV and Bluray? It's kinda strange since the reviews seem to tout the contrast ability of the TV.
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Anyone have sound issues? I noticed that every now and then the sound (connected via HDMI) distorts... kinda like as if losing signal. Also the sound via AV (composite) cut out completely once. I had to restart the TV to get the sound back. Is this the harbinger of bad news? mad.gif I thought Vizio improved their quality in general and hoped they paid a little more attention to their Cinemawide line, it being their top of the product line (XVT).

I am thinking I should go get that extended warranty from Squaretrade. rolleyes.gif
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Anyone have sound issues? I noticed that every now and then the sound (connected via HDMI) distorts... kinda like as if losing signal. Also the sound via AV (composite) cut out completely once. I had to restart the TV to get the sound back. Is this the harbinger of bad news? mad.gif I thought Vizio improved their quality in general and hoped they paid a little more attention to their Cinemawide line, it being their top of the product line (XVT).
I am thinking I should go get that extended warranty from Squaretrade. rolleyes.gif

On mine if i am running a Blu Ray through my receiver I do not loose audio but have lost the picture for a second or 2 at a time during drop outs. When I am going direct through another HDMI input I loose the audio as well as video when the dropout occurs. I have not lost audio only during a drop out but then I have only watched 6 movies so far.

I would say I average 1 drop out per movie and it seems pretty random. Rewind the movie and the drop out does not occur in that same spot again. No difference on input or if the device is direct or through a receiver. Definitely a bug that needs addressing. I am sort of in denial hoping it just sort of goes away forever or perhaps when I install the Oppo 103 Blu Ray player I am about to order but I think the bug rest inside the TV.

I do think this TV is pretty cool for the novelty of it but I am now wishing I pretended I never saw it and picked up a regular 16:9 display. I am now starting to check out other displays in anticipation of taking this one back. For the longest time I have had my targets set on a Sharp 70" display but they seem to have somewhat weak processing and really it might be to big especially for full 16:9 stuff. I used to love large displays but I now I am far sighted (or is it near sited) and I find large displays very fatiguing and I can't focus on the picture. Its bad enough now that I prefer smaller displays set farther away and its pretty severe now. I am most comfortable with my 43" plasma in my bedroom witch is 10' back. Far cry from what I used to want. So I must be careful not to go to big now. This is one reason why I am not so bothered by the 58" Cinemawide. Best of both worlds when it comes to my eyes is my current thinking!

I am looking at the Samsung 7000 series 60" display sold at Costco. I have always really liked Samsung LCD displays and I know I will be happy with that one. It was a 60" Sharp I had before the Vizio Cinemawide. It was perfect for CinemaScope films but a tad large for 16:9 material. I have a 52" Samsung in the garage boxed up not currently being used. I may just use that for a while until I get my next display all figured out.

For right now I am trying to work with the Cinemawide set and it is growing on me but mostly because of the bugs its likely going back. To crazy busy right now to do it but probably early January I will no longer have it.
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This is starting to get a little scary. I've been following this thread since I purchased the TV from Costco on cyber Monday for $999. At the moment, it's somewhere floating in the pacific ocean on its way to Honolulu. We'll see. At least they refund shipping.
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