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post #211 of 272
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post

even though I have a new PS3 and changed internet service providers in the last six weeks or so, I still can not get any Amazon HD video to load up (the error message says it can't check the speed of my connection). It is obviously a Amazon app issue. I think I will drop Amazon Prime early next year if it isn't fixed for me by then.

My Amazon Prime is working perfectly. Try deleting the app and reinstalling, or maybe call their support, because it seems to only be on your PS3.
post #212 of 272
Man, I have a 40 gb that sounds like a hair dryer when I play games in my bedroom. Plus $50 in gamestop gift cards. I might go trade it in.
post #213 of 272
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Originally Posted by TornadoTJ View Post

My Amazon Prime is working perfectly. Try deleting the app and reinstalling, or maybe call their support, because it seems to only be on your PS3.

I've deleted the app countless times since the service launched. It never works despite having two different internet providers and two different PS3s. I stream videos from other services fine. It is only Amazon that gives me problems, and only on my PS3. Amazon streaming works fine on my PC, but unfortunately they don't allow HD streaming on computers.

I've long ago contacted Amazon about all of this and while they claim to be aware of the problem and say it will be fixed (so there must be others affected), as of now there still seems to be an issue.
post #214 of 272
Question:
I want to take advantage of Gamestop's deal, to get a new PS3.
I have an original "fat" 80GB PS3, in perfect working order. I put a 120GB HHD in it, and I can't find the original HDD to put back in. I called Gamestop and asked if this would be an issue. They said that they would label it as "defective" and deduct it from the price. Should I just try and sell it on Craigslist, or take the price Gamestop is going to give me?
Edited by ElectronicTonic - 10/13/12 at 5:46pm
post #215 of 272
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Hard to say. Check out the prices on Ebay and see if the promotion will bring a better deal to you. Remember... trade in some games too for extra money to go towards the system. I'm mad at myself for forgetting a separate shelf with at least four more games I could have traded in for credit. I guess I can still do it for a future purchase though. We'll see; that was my first time in GameStop for years.
post #216 of 272
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post

Anything purchased before November 2011 will retain the 5 dload limit regardless of how many times you deactivate/reactivate systems. The newer rule only applies to purchases after that point.

Say with five PS3 consoles for several years and have bought stuff from PSN before Nov.2011. All five the PS3 consoles are activated with the same PSN account. For DL games bought after Nov.2011, how do I choose which "two" systems get to play the DL games? The way I understand is it's not the DL game itself that is locked to the system but the entire PSN account.
post #217 of 272
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Originally Posted by ElectronicTonic View Post

Question:
I want to take advantage of Gamestop's deal, to get a new PS3.
I have an original "fat" 80GB PS3, in perfect working order. I put a 120GB HHD in it, and I can't find the original HDD to put back in. I called Gamestop and asked if this would be an issue. They said that they would label it as "defective" and deduct it from the price. Should I just try and sell it on Craigslist, or take the price Gamestop is going to give me?

Take it in with the 120gb drive, no biggie. I had one of the BC 80 gig units too, but they aren't the original release models. The 20 and 60 were the originals. smile.gif
post #218 of 272
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Originally Posted by Vortex3D View Post

Say with five PS3 consoles for several years and have bought stuff from PSN before Nov.2011. All five the PS3 consoles are activated with the same PSN account. For DL games bought after Nov.2011, how do I choose which "two" systems get to play the DL games? The way I understand is it's not the DL game itself that is locked to the system but the entire PSN account.

I don't know. All I know is I've traded games with friends with the 5 console limit as well as the 2 console limi (including contests I've held her giving away some of my dloads). I deactivated my old PS3 and reactivated a new one, and all my games dloaded flawlessly.
post #219 of 272
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post

Deactivated and reformatted, old reliable has finally been traded in.
I am amazed at how much I got for the 60 gigger from GameStop. I haven't been following the prices online, but I am jazzed by the deal they gave me: $170 credit towards the purchase of the Super Slim. I also turned in some of games that I won't play any more under their limited +30% bonus credit special and ended up paying only $27 for the new PS3. cool.gif
So far, the machine is working perfectly. PS+'s cloud storage transferred all 175 of my game saves (some games had multiple saves) without issue. The cooling in the new unit has a hushed whisper when you put your ear near it, but at normal ranges it is audibly undetectable. The sliding lid works decently for it does, but I still liked the old way better. I already plugged in my media, registered my BlueTooth gadgets and accessories, and am now dloading a ton of PSN stuff. Synching the trophies is taking a loooooooong time since it has to bring over every single one to me from scratch.
One thing is for sure; even though I have a new PS3 and changed internet service providers in the last six weeks or so, I still can not get any Amazon HD video to load up (the error message says it can't check the speed of my connection). It is obviously a Amazon app issue. I think I will drop Amazon Prime early next year if it isn't fixed for me by then.
Update: I tried out some Tekken as my first Blu-ray software program. You can hear a windup whirr when all is quiet any time the drive initially accesses the disc. This wasn't an issue with the old system. I'll get used to it, but it can be jarring right now.
Update II: I tested a Blu ray movie (Ronin) and the only sound from the machine is a very soft whirr of the drive which isn't even noticeable in quiet scenes. I guess the drive is in constant motion when watching a flick on disc. BTW, I can't make any comparisons to the last few models since I have never used them.
If you are on the look out for a new machine cheap and have an older PS3 to trade, you might want to go to GameStop while the double trade-in credit promotion is still going (plus the extra 30% credit for used games and accessories. I doubt there will be a better deal to be found in 2012.
Is this a per-store deal, or is this promo offered at all their stores right now? I didn't see anything at first glance on their site.

I have the old limited edition MGS4 model and can only use it for more than an hour when the AC is on in the house due to the heat. I still have the original HD, but I can't re-use my current HD in the new model either without re-formatting, correct?
post #220 of 272
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The console promotion was on a flyer I saw while in GameStop. I don't know if it is offered every where, but it is offered throughout SoCali. It ends Ocober 25th I believe.

As for the hard drive, you are correct. A new PS3 will ask you to reformat an old HDD that you plug into it, regardless of where it came from. You will also be asked to dload the latest firmware from your computer and bring over to the PS3 once you switch drives.
post #221 of 272
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post

Anything purchased before November 2011 will retain the 5 dload limit regardless of how many times you deactivate/reactivate systems. The newer rule only applies to purchases after that point.

That's just great....... I bought a slim ps3 on nov 2011 after replacing the my 5 year old phat 60gb that had a serious meltdown requiring a reballing job, as the reflow didn't fix it . And thought it wasn't worth getting it reballed on an old machine like that, in case the blu-ray drive decides to die after that.
And if my current slim goes wrong and I have to buy a new one , and if the one after that breaks I'll be paying hundreds of pounds to replace the same DLC content.
Two fingers to you sony who changed that rule from 5 consoles purchased after 2011 to 2 consoles.
post #222 of 272
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Wrong.

From a PC you can go their website deactivate all of the systems that your account put games on, freeing the games up to be dloaded again. This means that for however many units you plan to go through in the future, your DLC and online purchases will continue to be accessible.
post #223 of 272
Here's the link to the site to manage your PS3.

https://account.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/login.action
post #224 of 272
Just had to do that the other day so we could play games on the bedroom PS3.
post #225 of 272
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Originally Posted by eclipz View Post

Here's the link to the site to manage your PS3.
https://account.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/login.action


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You can only deactivate your PlayStation®3 system from PlayStation®Network using your PS3™ system. You cannot deactivate it using a PSP® (PlayStation®Portable) system or PC.

Am I missing something, or are you Canadians the chosen ones?

post #226 of 272
Eh, stickin with my ol' 60gb fatty. Dolby True HD and 3D in this one?
post #227 of 272
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Originally Posted by TyrantII View Post

Am I missing something, or are you Canadians the chosen ones?

No more than once every six months, you can deactivate all of your units simultaneously from a PC as instructed by this link. To deactivate machines one by one, you have to use the targeted PS3 itself. Whichever method you choose, you can activate/re-activate a machine at any time.
Edited by joeblow - 10/26/12 at 7:11pm
post #228 of 272
Will that reset my media and movies downloads? I have my free episode of Caprica stuck on my dead phat.
post #229 of 272
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post

Wrong.
From a PC you can go their website deactivate all of the systems that your account put games on, freeing the games up to be dloaded again. This means that for however many units you plan to go through in the future, your DLC and online purchases will continue to be accessible.

But does that mean total of 2 or 5 consoles at the same time? That has always been the question for stuff bought back before Sony changed the rule.

Example what if I have 3 PS3 consoles. The oldest have older stuff bought before Sony changed to 2 consoles rule. And that console hasn't been online for years. The newer two consoles also downloaded the older PSN software which technically reached the "2 consoles limit". What happens if the oldest console now log in into PSN? Is PSN good enough to check the older PSN software and still say that's "5 consoles limit" and all 3 consoles can use the older PSN software? Now the bigger question is the same PSN account also has newer software bought after "2 console limit". Remember, it's all or none system. Even the oldest console doesn't download the newer PSN software after the 2 console limit, is PSN good enough to separate the "old" and "new" downloaded PSN software since all 3 consoles are activated and all of them have PSN stuff installed?

I have this scenario. My oldest 3rd console hasn't log in into PSN since firmware 3.60. And I have two newer consoles that have latest firmware and already downloaded old and new PSN software. The old console also has older PSN software installed. All the consoles are still listed in PSN as activated.
post #230 of 272
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Originally Posted by TyrantII View Post

Will that reset my media and movies downloads? I have my free episode of Caprica stuck on my dead phat.

Movies bought from PSN has ONE console restriction. I know long time ago, movies bought from PSN cannot be transferred to other console. But has Sony loosen this rule?

Personally, I got used to having many PSN accounts, each account dedicated for one console so that I can download any or same movies from PSN. Having to remember which account is "locked" to which console is a pain. I like Live style of managing movies (same as games). As long the Live account that downloaded the movie is login, you can watch the movie on any console. I can also have multiple Live accounts login at the same time if I have the need running other stuff that belongs to other account. That's something PSN cannot login, multi accounts login at the same time on same console.

A curious question: Do most of you only use one PSN account? If not, do you only buy PSN software with one account? Technically, users should have the freedom to have multiple PSN accounts and buy PSN software on any account and use them on any console and accounts like they are all the same. Why should I care which account or console already "activate" the contents? Traditionally, especially coming to movies, I or any member in family or friend can buy one copy of the movie. We just pass the movie among us to watch the movie so that we only need to pay the movie once. I can even give the movie away to anyone if I wish. With digital age of movies, it's so restricted because the idea is every "person" should buy his/her own copy to watch the movie even in the same house if you are not sharing the same PS3 console.
Edited by Vortex3D - 10/27/12 at 10:10am
post #231 of 272
So I deactivated my 2 YLOD dead PS3's. Of course you can not switch media rights from the old to the new.

Figures. Just another Frak you from a misguided Sony.
post #232 of 272
Anyone notice the super slim is really loud? I an hear the disc drive stuttering and start/stopping all the time while playing...fan noise seems to whine a little also, distracting while watching netflix
post #233 of 272
Sadly this new model is still using the 2x Blueray drive, ****** wireless. the Drive cover is not as thick as the preview model, some say it's a bit louder now. No point of buying it, i'll keep this one for now.
post #234 of 272
They need to keep the BD drive at the same speed, games are written with that speed in mind for streaming and the like.
post #235 of 272
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Originally Posted by number1laing View Post

They need to keep the BD drive at the same speed, games are written with that speed in mind for streaming and the like.
I understand what you're saying, if my memory or my understanding is right. HDD act as a buffer for Bluray and chipset of the ps3 to be process, thus cut down the loading time. I do have SSD on my PS3 and my GT5 load pretty quick
post #236 of 272
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Originally Posted by kanti123 View Post

I understand what you're saying, if my memory or my understanding is right. HDD act as a buffer for Bluray and chipset of the ps3 to be process, thus cut down the loading time. I do have SSD on my PS3 and my GT5 load pretty quick

With buffered data, it can be designed to control the flow of data speed. I think it's Sony marketing that is full of it in trying to say Blu-ray drive on PS3 can't be reading too fast. Even Sony puts a tiny buffer on PS3 that will gets filled faster than PS3 can "consume" the data, once the buffer is full, stop filling it until it's almost empty from sending the data to PS3 (First In First Out style) before the buffer fills up again if the BD is reading too fast. Another advantage is to extend the Blu-ray laser on the BD. Even the drive is still spinning waiting for the buffer to request more data, the laser can be in low power model to reduce the wear on it.

Remember, re-engineering or change to faster hardware are more expensive because they require additional testing. It will also need more testing if newer games are able to handle faster data loading, the game will still run properly. Since Sony has to support the launch model all the way to the latest mode, that adds quite a bit of additional testing (unless Sony does as little testing as possible with the earlier models and hope they can get away). A lot of work and Sony has no interesting in spending a penny more.

Plus isn't one of the rules of game console is the launch model supposed to be behave the same as the latest revised model? Even that's true, Sony already broke so many functionalists of launch PS3 over the years that this rule is simply invalid for PS3 today. Even the later revision of PS2 has faster DVD drive and the firmware has a setting to manually slow down the DVD drive in case of some old game isn't compatible.

Curious, how long do you think of a launch console model is to be supported? Since we know the launch model will have a lot of issues especially old hardware design that will prevent any change to the ability of the console for the rest of the future models and we all know launch models generally have shorter lifespan (with exceptions), it's time to change how the launch model is to be supported. Say after 3 to 4 years after the launch model came out, it's no longer guaranteed that all games will be compatible. If there are one the few launch model owners who have working launch model, and want their launch model to be compatible with every game made to be compatible for the revised future models, it's cheaper for the console maker to give a free console replacement with the latest model. If this can be done, for the same gen console, after 3 to 4 years later, the console maker can improve critical areas like optical disc reading speed, wireless spec, faster hard drive spec, and even total RAM. But this does create a new problem for going to the next gen because now the last gen spec has been upgraded to more decent hardware and will be capable to exist longer. The console maker also needs to be convinced that the R&D put into improving the last gen doesn't turned it into competition with the next gen. For hardcore gamers, they will never be happy even they get a new improved hardware every month, but to the console market it helps to keep the old gen more value and capable longer.
Edited by Vortex3D - 11/21/12 at 10:48am
post #237 of 272
I have the 250GB Holiday Bundle Super Slim. My first PS3... Its been a long time in coming, many chances to buy just never did. Pulled the trigger this time as I figure this is the only price drop until official PS4 release date likely at E3 in June of 2013.

I still play my PS2 Slim as well.

My first few games are GTA 4 (haven't started it yet), GT5 XL Edition, Midnight Club LA Complete and NFS The Run Limited Edition.

This PS3 is really quiet, my external drives connected to my HTPC are louder at idle. When he drive spins up its noticable but not loud at all. I have it connected to my 300Mbps Game Bridge (Trendnet) and AT&T Uverse (27Mb) so I see no problems with online gaming when I try it soon.

PSN - DJFourMoney
post #238 of 272
Welcome DJFourMoney, your choice in first games is .. suspect smile.gif

GT5 is excellent, GTA4 is over rated, but the expansion games are supposed to be better. You might look into PS+, did the bundle come with it? You also got Uncharted and inFamous right? Those are great franchises, along with Killzone, LBP, God of War, Ratchet and Clank and Resistance. Most have bundles now.
post #239 of 272
Hey DJ, if your PS3 is connected over wireless, you won't get 300mbps. You will only get what standard 802.11g offers, and only on the 2.4ghz range. 54mbps is the theoretical top speed, but in real practice the fastest I see over wifi is about 6mbps.

Just wanted you to have that in mind if you are going wireless and you see issues.
post #240 of 272
I just got the 4000 to replace my 60gb launch unit, which I am keeping around as a less-used BR player and stream device for the living room.

It does feel cheap (like the slim PS2), but at the same time, the 60gb system is massive and heavy. I like that it is quieter, and I do like the size, but the corner cutting is a bit too obvious like that flimsy power button.

BTW, it's 2012 and I am getting the same cord that came with my SNES. When the hell are these companies going to start packing in HDMI cables?
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