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post #391 of 997
So for those of you who have the 3d and the 2d BR, and have seen both, would you guys recommend getting the 3d version over the 2d? Thanks.
post #392 of 997
I believe it is a mistake to not include the extras disc in the 2D version as well, for those who don't need 3D.

Since the extras disc is probably 25GB, it's a certainty it will be ripped and distributed and the studios will only have themselves to blame for creating the market by not providing that purchase option to everyone.

For deities sake, studios, drop the DVD or digital copy but include BD extras discs in all releases and stop this stupid exclusive distribution model.
post #393 of 997
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I hesitate to think what the theater did during the abortion scene.

Can't help but notice quite a few people still refer to it as the "abortion" scene. It was not an abortion, it was a caesarean.
post #394 of 997
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Can't help but notice quite a few people still refer to it as the "abortion" scene. It was not an abortion, it was a caesarean.

Thank you!
post #395 of 997
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Can't help but notice quite a few people still refer to it as the "abortion" scene. It was not an abortion, it was a caesarean.

Uh huh.

They called it that to avoid a political controversy. The implications of the scene were quite clear.
post #396 of 997
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Uh huh.
They called it that to avoid a political controversy. The implications of the scene were quite clear.

An abortion would mean the pregnancy and life gets terminated. The autodoc does not kill the creature.

Not to mention the whole procedure right down to the incision resembled a caesarean section. And political controversy? This is a sci-fi movie, not a presidential campaign ad.
post #397 of 997
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An abortion would mean the pregnancy and life gets terminated. The autodoc does not kill the creature.

The machine tries to kill the creature by freezing it afterwards, but apparently wasn't successful.
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And political controversy? This is a sci-fi movie, not a presidential campaign ad.

Had the character told the machine, "I want an abortion!," all the red-staters in the audience would have raised bloody hell, and Fox News would have run "Why Hollywood Hates America" stories about it for months.
post #398 of 997
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You cannot carry out an abortion on a man, so the machine did not and Shaw just wanted to save her life
post #399 of 997
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

The machine tries to kill the creature by freezing it afterwards, but apparently wasn't successful.
Had the character told the machine, "I want an abortion!," all the red-staters in the audience would have raised bloody hell, and Fox News would have run "Why Hollywood Hates America" stories about it for months.

How do we know the machine tries to freeze it? Perhaps its a cleaning/sterilizing step in the procedure, which is the more likely explanation given what information is given in the scene.

You are making assumptions, I am taking the literal meaning of the scene. The film has Shaw very clearly requesting "caesarean" for a reason, it sets up the scene at the end with the creature still being alive and used to fend off the engineer.

And I don't believe anyone worth listening to would be all up in arms had a rated R sci-fi film depicted an abortion scene on an alien fetus with a futuristic "autodoc." tongue.gif
post #400 of 997
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The creature screams when the decontamination cycle begins
post #401 of 997
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You cannot carry out an abortion on a man, so the machine did not and Shaw just wanted to save her life

It could be speculated she requested caesarean because of her religion recognizing abortion as a sin.
post #402 of 997
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The creature screams when the decontamination cycle begins

IMO, that doesn't really prove much especially considering it survives.
post #403 of 997
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AnyDVD seems to work.
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"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts"

If this movie were just based on David it would have been a thousand times better (maybe).
post #404 of 997
The premise is absolutely fascinating and promising and the film does get off to a relatively interesting start. After that, the film just bogs down into flat acting, one silly scene after another, and a whole host of sadly unconvincing rubber puppet monsters.

I initially thought this had the makings of a classic. Perhaps if I were to watch it again with much lower expectations, I might actually like the film?
post #405 of 997
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Sequels that build on it could be fantastic
post #406 of 997
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Sequels that build on it could be fantastic

Agreed. There is so much potential here.
post #407 of 997
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"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts"
Okay, so I'm not the only one for whom that line sprang into my head as soon as I saw the image. I wonder if Mike did that just to see how many of us would respond with the quote.. hehe.
post #408 of 997
Bought the 4 disc version 2 days ago, 3D blu-ray, 2D blu-ray, dvd and special features disc. Liked the movie a lot. Good picture quality on the 2D blu-ray. But sorry to say that the 3D version did not look good frown.gif Watched it on my Sony VW95 projector.
post #409 of 997
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The premise is absolutely fascinating and promising and the film does get off to a relatively interesting start. After that, the film just bogs down into flat acting, one silly scene after another, and a whole host of sadly unconvincing rubber puppet monsters.
I initially thought this had the makings of a classic. Perhaps if I were to watch it again with much lower expectations, I might actually like the film?


25 years in the future, everyone will undoubtably state that the first Prometheus is a classic and none of the five sequels were as good. Because the first of everything is always the best. wink.giftongue.gif
post #410 of 997
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Bought the 4 disc version 2 days ago, 3D blu-ray, 2D blu-ray, dvd and special features disc. Liked the movie a lot. Good picture quality on the 2D blu-ray. But sorry to say that the 3D version did not look good frown.gif Watched it on my Sony VW95 projector.

Can you be more specific? What exactly did you not like about the 3d version?

Thanks!
post #411 of 997
Really dont care if this annoys some, but looking at the bluscreens screenshots, I recall this film having more detail and less softness when I saw the non-stereovision version in theater. Some of the landscape caps look on the smudged side.
post #412 of 997
I noticed that Amazon dropped their price for the 4 disc version to $24.99 today. smile.gif
post #413 of 997
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Originally Posted by johncourt View Post

and a whole host of sadly unconvincing rubber puppet monsters.

The monsters in the film looked great!
post #414 of 997
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Originally Posted by johncourt View Post

The premise is absolutely fascinating and promising and the film does get off to a relatively interesting start. After that, the film just bogs down into flat acting, one silly scene after another, and a whole host of sadly unconvincing rubber puppet monsters.
I initially thought this had the makings of a classic. Perhaps if I were to watch it again with much lower expectations, I might actually like the film?
I've been quite critical of many of the scenes in this movie and writing/directing choices, but never had any problem with it from a visual standpoint. If anything, it's rather impressive in nearly every aspect other than some parts of the content.
post #415 of 997
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Originally Posted by Meteor|WAR View Post

The film has Shaw very clearly requesting "caesarean" for a reason, it sets up the scene at the end with the creature still being alive and used to fend off the engineer.
+1

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I don't believe anyone worth listening to would be all up in arms had a rated R sci-fi film depicted an abortion scene on an alien fetus with a futuristic "autodoc." tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

25 years in the future, everyone will undoubtably state that the first Prometheus is a classic and none of the five sequels were as good. Because the first of everything is always the best. wink.giftongue.gif
Now that's just MEAN.tongue.gif
post #416 of 997
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Can you be more specific? What exactly did you not like about the 3d version?
Thanks!

Watching it in 2D first on my Sony projector I thought the quality was execellent. After that I watched the 3D version, but it added nothing to the experience. For me the 2D version was more "3D like" in my brain than the 3D version.

Like many others have said the 3D use is more subtle, which can be a good thing. But when you get noticeble ghosting/crosstalk in the scenes that actually have some extra depth, I start thinking "why bother?" . That's distracting.

For me, a 3D version of a film has to give me something that I cannot get in the 2D version. I don't want 3D for the sake of 3D itself, then it's just a marketing gimmick to me. It looked better in 2D.
post #417 of 997
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"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts"
If this movie were just based on David it would have been a thousand times better (maybe).

David need characters around him to expand. One interesting take is Davids relationship with different crewmembers. We could see him as an emotionless android, but one other take is of course.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Elisabeth = Lover
Charlie = Rival
Vickers = Sister
Weyland = Father
post #418 of 997
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-1

Care to elaborate further?
post #419 of 997
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Originally Posted by MovieSwede View Post

David need characters around him to expand. One interesting take is Davids relationship with different crewmembers. We could see him as an emotionless android, but one other take is of course.

I think the next film could, and will hopefully, expand on David's behavior as well as his "relationship" with Elisabeth. If that's the case and given Michael Fassbender's excellent portrayal of David, it will be very interesting.
post #420 of 997
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Originally Posted by Potetgullmannen View Post

Watching it in 2D first on my Sony projector I thought the quality was execellent. After that I watched the 3D version, but it added nothing to the experience. For me the 2D version was more "3D like" in my brain than the 3D version.
Like many others have said the 3D use is more subtle, which can be a good thing. But when you get noticeble ghosting/crosstalk in the scenes that actually have some extra depth, I start thinking "why bother?" . That's distracting.
For me, a 3D version of a film has to give me something that I cannot get in the 2D version. I don't want 3D for the sake of 3D itself, then it's just a marketing gimmick to me. It looked better in 2D.


Thanks for the feedback. smile.gif I also prefer some movies in 2d vs 3d after watching both ways, so I know what you mean. My RS45 also has ghosting issues with certain material which can also really hurt the 3d experience.
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