Prometheus - Page 25  

Word on the streets it's actually a prequel to The Hangover and is linked to that franchise, not the Alien(s) franchise.

I apologize but I don't understand your post at all.

Because the engineer's suit doesn't look exactly proportioned to how it looked in the 1979 film, or that Scott decided to have them actually be human-like beings inside suits, this film is not about them? Or are you just being facetious here?

And on topic, to satisfy the OP... the Prometheus Blu-Ray has outstanding video and audio quality.

Here's my theory, and my theory only about the original Derelict.
The cockpit/control room looked enormous , the entire ship look a whole lot bigger, and different than the one on Prometheus interior wise . I'm thinking the ship on Alien/s was not only a cargo, but more of a live stock so of speaker transporter ship, so the ship must have been heavier and difficult to maneuver, so the Bio mechanical Suit has to be bigger to handle the ship's size and bulk.

Beside it being a giant Alien art piece by H.R Giger with little actual function, well that's what I would say is I was asked why the difference between the two Space Jockeys/Engineers.

DJoel

Probably because there's not much to discuss about it. The Blu-Ray release is near perfect. Which leaves us to continue to talk about the movie.

Its as simple as the Prometheus jockeys were designed by different artists 30 years later who put some new spin on some of the details.

Lets talk about great science fiction films of the last few years.

Art

I myself enjoyed the disc quite a bit. Both the audio and video quality are definately demo material. As for the film? I am among those that actually enjoyed it but will admit it is very flawed.

Tough crowd. I watched the 3D version and loved it. I need to go back and watch Alien now....

Looper
Source Code
Super 8
Rise of the Planet of the Apes
District 9
Pitch Black
Moon
Cloverfield
Children of Men
Minority Report
Inception
The Fountain
Sunshine

Some good stuff, dude.

I enjoyed the film and actually looking forward to a sequel. My only criticism of this prequel is that all the technology on the Prometheus was so much further advanced than on the Nostromo. To see current technology on the Prometheus vs late 70s technology on the Nostromo was quite striking. Again its just nit picking.

Absolutely. I think the film is fantastic.

Where do we start, I mean the discussion of flaws .....?

Art

I bet Ridley Scott approves of the phallic nature.

+1
Exactly.

Damn it!
She said the camera was turned off!!

Ha!

Two I haven't seen The Fountain and Sunshine but the rest I enjoy very much and have in my collection.

Scale is way off within ALIEN anyways. The shots of the crew finding the SJ are children climbing up on the art to give a much more grand appearance. The the mid to close shots after are the actual actors, and much more in line with Prometheus. Retcon then? Kinda.., since th original intention was larger at first. But it is Scotts choice. The arms and being welded to the chair is not right, but it because they wanted an antagonist, not the MCP.

This pops up (scale issue) in Prometheus too, where the engineer through trickery looks very large in the SJ room / Chair. Later when he's fighting Shaw, if you make notice of the soundings, he just looks like basketball player.

Hope I didn't ruin that for ya'll.

I have a strong desire to watch this film again, for whatever reason.

I found it preposterously bad when I saw it at the theatre and I begin to chuckle every time the desire to see the film for a second time strikes. There's something off in just about every scene.

1. tough guy tattooed mohawked scientist turns wimp inside the cave

2. smart scientist gets attacked by getting lovey dovey with face eating predator leeches

3. old dude's prosthetics and makeup are just campy. Suggestion: get an old guy to play the old guy. Is that so f'in' hard?

4. charlize's character runs into the shadow of falling ship. Smart.

5. smart scientist is too dumb to see robot spiking his drink with parasites.

6. charlize's bad yellow dye job

7. rapace is utterly unconvincing as a scientist. Or astronaut. Or something. Whatever she is.


This movie just goes nowhere. Should be great to watch while smoking pot and eating pizza and cookies and drinking root beer. Mmmmm.

1. tough guy tattooed mohawked scientist turns wimp inside the cave
on a hostile unknown planet, light years from Earth. Yup, I'm sure you wouldn't be losing your zen either.

2. smart scientist gets attacked by getting lovey dovey with face eating predator leeches
"tough guy tattooed mohawked scientist" (who was a geologist by the way) even tried to warn him cause he was scared (that guy's such a wuss!!)... Maybe he thought it was better to not seem scared with the creature. Even if they had escaped, there were dozens of "leeches", these two guys didn't stand a chance! While I'm at it, no one complains that Predator was just a modest success and complete Alien/Aliens rip-off with the same "group of guys in danger who get killed one by one" formula... Just about every *cough* "marine" *cough* in Aliens is annoying except Michael Biehn, and there's a couple of boring guys in the first Alien, I don't remember their names, who constantly remind us that they're here "for the money" and they want to get paid etc... Maybe the geologist was a wink at Alien (just a guess, I don't have any proof or source or whatever)

3. old dude's prosthetics and makeup are just campy. Suggestion: get an old guy to play the old guy. Is that so f'in' hard?
Ridley Scott already explained why Guy Pearce got to wear makeup instead of casting an older actor.

4. charlize's character runs into the shadow of falling ship. Smart.
Yeah but have you seen the size of that thing anyway? It would have been surprising if she survived! (yet the fact that Shaw does survive was a bit pushing it given the situation, I give you that)

5. smart scientist is too dumb to see robot spiking his drink with parasites.
It's *A MOVIE*: meaning the audience get to see things sometimes the characters don't. It's very plausible that in the course of a conversation you don't notice some little detail because you just aren't looking at it at that precise moment or whatever.

6. charlize's bad yellow dye job
?

7. rapace is utterly unconvincing as a scientist. Or astronaut. Or something. Whatever she is.
What would you have her do instead? Study small pieces of rocks under a microscope for an hour? Exciting stuff!
The important aspect of her character maybe was not the fact that she was scientist.
In any case that's your take on it, but a lot of people found her very good in her part. Go figure.

...Anyway... Prometheus is the most idiotic sci-fi movie ever made, after all these comments and various discussions I know that much now. ....Maybe this post should have been reserved for the other thread in the movie forum by the way.

Me I'll most likely watch it again very soon, enjoy it, and I can't wait to watch the giant documentary this weekend.
Edited by Morpheo - 10/20/12 at 5:15am

Blimey! That's one of the few occasions when I have agreed with Mark Kermode. You see, he may like Prometheus but he hates 3D with a passion and if he had his way none of us would have the option to see any movie in 3D let alone this one.

Saw this movie in two different theatres for 2d & 3d. Within 1 minute into the BD I have to ask why I go to the theatre anymore AT ALL. The video and audio quality of this BD at home compared to the theatre experience is not even close. And this is on a home set that is a fraction of the size of the big screen and room acoustics that fall way short of any definition of optimal. The movie itself seems to be splitting everyone I know in exactly the same way this thread is going-- you either love the subject and what they did or hate it and pick apart every layer that goes into suspension of disbelief. Right now it is 20/80 but I am looking forward to the pre-prequel.

I didn't see it in theater. I have to agree though, it's stunning in 3D on my 65" Passive TV. There were no comin' at ya gags, which is fine by me. I could forget I was watching it in 3D, yet it added to the visual, hmm, grandeur. Anyway, people have raked this one over so thoroughly, I'll just make two points:

1) I couldn't give a damn about any of the characters. Except maybe Meredith (Charlize), just because. Couldn't even *dis*-like David for spiking that idiot's drink. (See, I can't even remember his name at the moment). The Fifield guy was wildly improbable in every way.

2) There's an eerie, fatalistic feel to the movie. I just knew they were doomed, the only question in my mind was: will there be any survivors? So in that regard, I felt very little suspense.

So obviously I couldn't like this film. But I did.

He's certainly not wrong about the hype and expectations, I've been saying since the beginning that's why so many people hated the film.

I don't agree with the idea that "only the 3D version includes extras", I prefer to think that "only the Collector's Edition includes the 3D version".