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post #31 of 77
8/23/12 at 2:38pm
Wow 1300! My collection is still relatively small at about 350 titles. Thanks for replying....I'm looking to move away from my a300, I'm really liking what I have been reading about this unit!
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post #32 of 77
8/26/12 at 6:58pm
With Aeon Nox and 1300 movies, was the interface smooth? I have about 450 movies and 50 TV shows, thinkin of getting this box instead of building an HTPC. Essentially would have same usage as you: XBMC + WMC for HDHomeRun Live TV.
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post #33 of 77
8/27/12 at 5:12am
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Yes, the UI and navigation are smooth with Nox or the default Confluence skin.
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post #34 of 77
8/27/12 at 4:55pm
Check out the Neon skin if you haven't....

BTW: Also load the milkdrop presets pack since your running under windows....

http://www.filestube.com/7FoSI39NBm8r3Jivswc2ME/MilkDrop-for-XBMC-Preset-MegaPack.html
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post #35 of 77
8/27/12 at 5:12pm
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Okay, will try Neon. BTW, what exactly is the milkdrop presets pack? Thanks.
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post #36 of 77
8/27/12 at 5:40pm
milkdrop is the wicked cool visualizer for music playback. Its basically a math engine. The presets are math programs that create cool graphics based on the music. This pack adds on about 8000 presets to the 27 XBMC includes...... cool stuff....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MilkDrop

BTW: are you having problems coming out of sleep mode?
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post #37 of 77
8/28/12 at 4:43am
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milkdrop is the wicked cool visualizer for music playback. Its basically a math engine. The presets are math programs that create cool graphics based on the music. This pack adds on about 8000 presets to the 27 XBMC includes...... cool stuff....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MilkDrop
Sounds cool. Haven't tried music via XBMC as I rely on my Squeezebox for that, but may try it.
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BTW: are you having problems coming out of sleep mode?
Yes, in the sense that my projector loses the HDMI handshake, and I need to reboot the nettop. So, I either leave my RL70 on, or just shut down if I'm not using it for a few days at a stretch.
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post #38 of 77
8/28/12 at 10:27am
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Sounds cool. Haven't tried music via XBMC as I rely on my Squeezebox for that, but may try it.
Yes, in the sense that my projector loses the HDMI handshake,

and I need to reboot the nettop. So, I either leave my RL70 on, or just shut down if I'm not using it for a few days at a stretch.

Gotcha, that seems to be a fairly common issue unfortunately. surprised after all these years they dont have that ironed out yet. anyone figure out how to turn the Revo on from power off using IR?
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post #39 of 77
8/29/12 at 5:25pm
Hello,

I have been running my 4GB revo for a couple of months along with openelec, i didn't think Xbmc would run well within windows but after reading your post i thought i would install Win 7 and try it out.

Well i am surprised that it is running just as good as openelec but i can't get HD audio working, if i select Dolby True HD or DTS HD in the audio settings my movies will start playing about 5 fps with no sound, if i de-select these options, they play fine again.

I have tried a few builds of Xbmc and it has not helped.

Can you tell me which build of Xbmc you are using and any other options you may be using....i have not changed anything in Ati catalyst centre.

I have just tried Boxee for Windows and that plays HD sound no problem but does not play video at 24hz?

Appreciate any help or info.

Cheers.
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post #40 of 77
8/30/12 at 6:25am
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Well i am surprised that it is running just as good as openelec but i can't get HD audio working, if i select Dolby True HD or DTS HD in the audio settings my movies will start playing about 5 fps with no sound, if i de-select these options, they play fine again.
I honestly don't recall with nightly build it is, but it's from early July I think. After I recently re-installed the Shark codec pack for WMC, I'm now getting stuttering video under XBMC. Plays fine via Boxee and WMC. So, I'll be uninstalling XBMC and trying whatever the latest XBMC nightly build is this weekend.
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I have just tried Boxee for Windows and that plays HD sound no problem but does not play video at 24hz?
I played a few 23.976 BD rips and they seemed to play smoothly, but didn't watch them long enough to notice if there were any framerate issues.
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post #41 of 77
8/30/12 at 7:25am
Can you let me know how you get on with the latest builds, i have tried them all and none give me HD sound, i am currently using the official stable build of Eden along with Boxee.

I will try a couple of builds from the July releases.

Cheers.
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post #42 of 77
8/30/12 at 7:43am
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Sure thing, will install this weekend and report back. Under audio settings in XBMC, have you tried changing the 'Audio Output Device' to default or specifically to your card? Don't know if it would make a difference, but worth a try.
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post #43 of 77
8/30/12 at 8:57am
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After I recently re-installed the Shark codec pack for WMC, I'm now getting stuttering video under XBMC. Plays fine via Boxee and WMC.

 

I had stuttering video with HD audio using XBMC until I unselected Allow hardware acceleration (DXVA2)... under Video Settings - Playback. Video without HD audio played fine using either setting. I'm using a i3 processor with its integrated graphics.


Edited by Charles R - 8/30/12 at 9:03am
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post #44 of 77
8/30/12 at 8:59am
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Can you let me know how you get on with the latest builds, i have tried them all and none give me HD sound, i am currently using the official stable build of Eden along with Boxee.

 

Silly question but you are downloading/installing the file with HD support? I had a hard time finding it and originally though support was built into the normal release of Eden. Here is a link to the download I installed...

 

https://github.com/DDDamian/xbmc/downloads - XBMC-Eden11.0 HD-audio.zip

 

If you use WMC you might like these as they allow you to run XBMC and Hulu Desktop from inside of WMC...

 

http://xbmcwmc.teknowebworks.com/

http://huluwmc.teknowebworks.com/


Edited by Charles R - 8/30/12 at 9:23am
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post #45 of 77
8/30/12 at 9:09am
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Right, it has to be a nightly build here.
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post #46 of 77
8/30/12 at 11:03am
Hi,

I have tried those builds and from here and i get the same problem, if i select DTS HD audio and try to play a movie that supports this, the movie runs really slow with no sound, but other movies with DD 5.1 or DTS play fine. I have also tried it in another more powerful desktop and its the same problem.
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post #47 of 77
8/30/12 at 2:43pm
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I have tried those builds and from here and i get the same problem, if i select DTS HD audio and try to play a movie that supports this, the movie runs really slow with no sound, but other movies with DD 5.1 or DTS play fine.

 

Sounds like a configuration issue versus a certain release of XBMC. I was getting the same results until I tweaked my audio and video settings. I'm using the i3's graphic engine so my settings wouldn't be valid for another audio/video driver. Perhaps someone with the same environment can list their various Windows/XBMC audio and video configuration/settings. I only got lucky after a great deal of googling along with some trial and error.

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post #48 of 77
9/9/12 at 7:53pm
I know many of you are fans of XBMC, but I just installed Plex on my 1u windows 08 server and dumped everything into it. Within a couple hours it had all artwork, summaries etc in its library. It worked awesome for movies the only problem was tv shows I had to adjust the file names so it can pull the meta data for it. I am thinking about purchasing this Acer, but I want to make sure it will stream without problems like my mac laptop and ipad stream from the server being that it runs on windows 7. So far I mainly have dvd rips that I made mkv files with and ac3 pass thru audio. As for 1080 p bluray whatever torrents I have they been playing fine. I need to buy a bluray drive for my desktop to start importing my bluray collection. I am not sure which software to use for that if I should still use hand brake and dvd next copy or do you recommend anything else? Also has anyone ran plex on this Acer?
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post #49 of 77
9/9/12 at 8:29pm
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I know many of you are fans of XBMC, but I just installed Plex on my 1u windows 08 server and dumped everything into it. Within a couple hours it had all artwork, summaries etc in its library. It worked awesome for movies the only problem was tv shows I had to adjust the file names so it can pull the meta data for it. I am thinking about purchasing this Acer, but I want to make sure it will stream without problems like my mac laptop and ipad stream from the server being that it runs on windows 7. So far I mainly have dvd rips that I made mkv files with and ac3 pass thru audio. As for 1080 p bluray whatever torrents I have they been playing fine. I need to buy a bluray drive for my desktop to start importing my bluray collection. I am not sure which software to use for that if I should still use hand brake and dvd next copy or do you recommend anything else? Also has anyone ran plex on this Acer?

AnyDVD HD + ClownBD is just awesome. You can either rip BD to main movie only with HD Audio and secondary AC3 track, with force subs as m2ts file. Or you can rip them as BR folder structure as well. biggrin.gif
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post #50 of 77
9/10/12 at 4:02am
Since I don't have to much hard drive space, I was going to compress it down a bit. My dvds usually take up between 1-3gb I heard blurays are double that with just the movie and hd audio is that true?
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post #51 of 77
9/10/12 at 6:28am
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Since I don't have to much hard drive space, I was going to compress it down a bit. My dvds usually take up between 1-3gb I heard blurays are double that with just the movie and hd audio is that true?

You're looking at about 4-5 gigs for 720p and 8-12 for 1080p.
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post #52 of 77
9/10/12 at 7:24am
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Since I don't have to much hard drive space, I was going to compress it down a bit. My dvds usually take up between 1-3gb I heard blurays are double that with just the movie and hd audio is that true?

BD movie only as M2TS file with HD sound, AC3 secondary track, and force subs vary between 15 to 32 GB depending on the movie.
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post #53 of 77
9/10/12 at 10:46am
help me out here.
I have been playing with the raspberry PI using xbmc..yes its early beta but it works.

The xbmc dev said they are testing pvr for the unit.
Not sure how they are going to do that but do you see this unit also supporting a recording feature as well?
Would be nice to get it to record ota hdtv feeds.
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post #54 of 77
9/10/12 at 12:02pm
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The xbmc dev said they are testing pvr for the unit.
Not sure how they are going to do that but do you see this unit also supporting a recording feature as well?
Would be nice to get it to record ota hdtv feeds.

 

I believe they merged the PVR code into the mainstream code so it should be supported with the new (next) release. It does require a backend, plugin and whatnot to work. I downloaded one of the nightly builds and was going to check it out. Well the current guide only reflects how to get started with Eden. I tried two backends... MediaPortal (forgot where I gave up) and For the Record (gave up trying to import the guide (seeing it was a pay subscription service)). So I never got to play around with XBMC's interface (or lack of). I figure when the next version is releases I'll take another look. However for no good reason I think they have a long way to go before they top WMC even though development on that has stopped years ago.

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post #55 of 77
9/10/12 at 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by enzmin89 View Post

I know many of you are fans of XBMC, but I just installed Plex on my 1u windows 08 server and dumped everything into it. Within a couple hours it had all artwork, summaries etc in its library. It worked awesome for movies the only problem was tv shows I had to adjust the file names so it can pull the meta data for it. I am thinking about purchasing this Acer, but I want to make sure it will stream without problems like my mac laptop and ipad stream from the server being that it runs on windows 7. So far I mainly have dvd rips that I made mkv files with and ac3 pass thru audio. As for 1080 p bluray whatever torrents I have they been playing fine. I need to buy a bluray drive for my desktop to start importing my bluray collection. I am not sure which software to use for that if I should still use hand brake and dvd next copy or do you recommend anything else? Also has anyone ran plex on this Acer?

What Acer and OS are you talking about? The Plex Media Server runs jut fine under win7. It has some issues with WHS as it's not meant to run there and you run into hassles with the size of the C: drive. It runs fine on many NAS units.

Perhaps you could say exactly what it is you want to do. Not clear what torrents have to do with anything.

Philip
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post #56 of 77
9/10/12 at 6:52pm
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I had stuttering video with HD audio using XBMC until I unselected Allow hardware acceleration (DXVA2)... under Video Settings - Playback. Video without HD audio played fine using either setting. I'm using a i3 processor with its integrated graphics.

Heh, the joys of an HTPC smile.gif

Philip
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post #57 of 77
9/10/12 at 6:59pm
Well what I want to do is be able to watch my ripped tv shows, dvd, blurays, and torrents on my home theater through plex with their interface with the artwork and all the other information it gets with the meta data. I been using WDTV for a while but its mainly a list with my files and doesn't show any info besides that. I love the plex desktop media center and want to find a cheap mac mini or windows htpc that will run it with full 1080 and hd sound. My system is running a Pioneer VSX 52 and Klipsch speakers with a 7.1 setup. I run an epson 8350 projector on a 106" screen as well.
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post #58 of 77
9/10/12 at 8:05pm
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Since I don't have to much hard drive space, I was going to compress it down a bit. My dvds usually take up between 1-3gb I heard blurays are double that with just the movie and hd audio is that true?

no my blurays are 10X that.

Hunger Games was almost 40G
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post #59 of 77
9/10/12 at 8:06pm
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Well what I want to do is be able to watch my ripped tv shows, dvd, blurays, and torrents on my home theater through plex with their interface with the artwork and all the other information it gets with the meta data. I been using WDTV for a while but its mainly a list with my files and doesn't show any info besides that. I love the plex desktop media center and want to find a cheap mac mini or windows htpc that will run it with full 1080 and hd sound. My system is running a Pioneer VSX 52 and Klipsch speakers with a 7.1 setup. I run an epson 8350 projector on a 106" screen as well.

plex doesn't do HD sound. so is thats a requirement your looking in the wrong place.

and those blurays compressed are going to look awful on your screen. even on my 50" plasma's they would look bad, never mind either of my FPJ setups.

your goals seem to contradict each other.
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post #60 of 77
9/11/12 at 3:31am
So should I use XBMC? The torrents of bluray rips I downloaded in the past are about 8gb and they looked pretty good. I don't have to much hard drive space at the moment to take a natural rip of my collection that's why I was going to convert them into an mkv file. What would you guys recommend?
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