Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5
I guess you could have this same argument with DLP or LCD. You could be complaining about DLP's black levels and contrast or we could be talking about the low native contrast levels of LCD. We could talk about the band aid of using a dynamic iris. Have not seen a new DLP chip in years so those numbers have gone relatively unchanged for several years. Each technology has its trade offs. One size does not fit all. You just have to find a projector that does the best for your viewing habits and live with the other compromises. That goes for DLP, LCD and LCOS.
I agree with you in part, but Sony and Epson in particular have no significant weak points IMO, at least with this years models (Epson has supposedly improved its only significant issue which was lag). Epson and Sony projectors are still going to be solid movie units, even if not quite up to snuff with JVC. JVC on the other hand is far from solid at 3d and with the lag, gaming is gimped as well for anyone who is somewhat serious about performance. So I understand what you are saying Mike, but I guess my point is there are much better all around projector choices for those who want to do a variety of things with their projector and not just movies. Just my opinion though.
Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 4
And if I played games (other than those involved in posting), I would get me a Darblet just for that. At the darbeevision booth they demoed several games with and without using the Darblet and it was staggering, and I mean staggering, how much more real things looked with the Darblet. detail, sharpness, involvement. HUGH
I am probably going to add a Darbee anyway, but that is great info. Thanks for sharing!
I know Mike has answered this for me so I apologize for not remembering, but what type of lag does the Darbee add to the chain?
Originally Posted by Geof
Todd, I think this is a pretty decent summary of the current JVC deficiencies. I'm sure they want to maintain their strength in 2D and perhaps these other areas are at odds with that (although I fail to understand why they could not put a game mode in to minimize lag).
I think you are exactly right Geof. There is no other reasonable explanation why they have not addressed these areas. In light of that, they are kind of between a rock and a hard place, but no way should they sacrifice what they are best at (movies) if it comes right down to it.
Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 4
Display technology choices will favor various parameters over others. Dila has certain advantages over DLP and of course the reverse is true. If you don't have an improved display chip available, such as a new DLP chip, the design task is to improve the weaker parameters through other methods. Trade offs arise when one does this. JVC has increased the brightness in 3D and has reduced the ghosting without compromising 2D. If the blsacks have been raised in 3D in order to get fast response time and thus less ghosting, so be it.Its a very sensible trade off and one that most viewers would easily take.
I dont disagree with that, but my question is how much have they actually reduced ghosting by doing this? Honestly, the only way I would be even satisfied with a JVC for 3d from what I have experienced with my 40/45 is if ghosting was knocked down at least ~75% with TOUGH material like Patagonia, Sammy's, etc....on the movie side, and SBS and TB content as well which is even more challenging.........Is JVC really going to make a significant impact here? I seriously doubt it, but once we get round 3 of the beta testers we will find out.
This seems like an unrealistic expectation. To be truly happy with 3d, it would have to be even higher than that %. Just dont see that happening. Again, there is still the flicker issue as well which is not going to see any improvement this round from the sounds of it. Flicker is almost as bad as ghosting for me at this point!
I just need to buy a DLP for 3d and get it over with since I am pretty sure that is all that is going to satisfy from a flicker/ghosting standpoint for me at this point.Edited by Toe - 9/10/12 at 4:10pm