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post #91 of 384
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Originally Posted by D_B_0673 View Post

What is e-shift?

Here is the technical description.

http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/tech_desc.jsp?model_id=MDL102123&feature_id=02

The net effect is a perceived increase in image resolution and contrast. I am a big fan of this tech on my 142" 16:9 at a close seating distance.

Click on this link if you'd like to see it close up.
post #92 of 384
Folks,

Please, post the news! smile.gif

We're dying for them!
post #93 of 384
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Originally Posted by Monster0 View Post

Isn't it already 10am in Indianapolis? Didn't the show open at 9am, local time? I'm in CA (pacific time) and thought there would have been updates by now.
Any news from the JVC camp?

The first day for the CEDIA trade floor is tomorrow (Thursday). Today Sony has a press conference at 5pm and there are a couple of other events for the press this afternoon, was well as the keynote address at 5:30. JVC has there press conference at 8am tomorrow and the trade floor opens it doors at 9am. So tomorrow is really the big day for news
post #94 of 384
Thanks for the clairification. So, now I know to get up early tomorrow and start trolling the forums for some JVC news.
Hope there's a BIG change/update on the horizon for JVC. This may be the year I pull the trigger for my first Big $$$ projector.eek.gif
post #95 of 384
Just a couple hours away from the JVC press release (Who's anxious? smile.gif)
post #96 of 384
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Originally Posted by SED <--- Rules View Post

I don't think there has to be talk talk talk in the forums just before the big day. There is really nothing to talk about until we see what the projector companies have in store this year. I'm actually really excited to hear what JVC will be showing! I'm patiently waiting for the JVC press conference this Thursday morning and I hope an avs member attending the expo will give us some impressions. And yes, I'm also hoping for more than a few tweaks tongue.gif

JVC's VIP access is the first thing I am going to on Thursday. Will post my impressions that night.

I will be asking abut panel and bulb issues.

Has JVC ever admitted a bulb issue that we all know exists? frown.gif

If they would admit they had a bulb issue the fix would have happened with last years projectors.
post #97 of 384
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Originally Posted by John Ballentine View Post

Just a couple hours away from the JVC press release (Who's anxious? smile.gif)

It will be nice to see some pics of the new JVC or even a vid.
post #98 of 384
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

It will be nice to see some pics of the new JVC or even a vid.

Heck! At this point ANY update would be nice....
post #99 of 384
This was released on the CEDIA site. Enjoy! biggrin.gif

jvc_projectors_9.6.12.doc 251k .doc file
post #100 of 384
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Another key enhancement is a new illumination system, including a new lamp and power supply, which delivers a significant improvement in brightness over the life of the lamp. In addition, the lamp warranty has been extended to one year/1,000 hours.

WOOOOOOO!!!
post #101 of 384
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The flagship DLA-X95R and DLA-RS66 offer a 130,000:1 native contrast ratio. The DLA-X75R and DLA-RS56 offer 90,000:1 native contrast, and the DLA-X55R, DLA-X35, DLA-RS4810, DLA-RS48 and DLA-RS46 offer 50,000:1 native contrast.

The new JVC D-ILA home theater projectors will be available in November 2012 at the following prices:
DLA-X95R/DLA-RS66 $11,999
DLA-X75R/DLA-RS56 $7,999
DLA-RS4810 $5,095
DLA-X55R/DLA-RS48 $4,999
DLA-X35/DLA-RS46 $3,499

Together with these new projectors, JVC offers new 3D accessories: the PK-AG3 RF 3D glasses and PK-EM2 RF emitter. Both are compatible with all JVC 3D projectors, including previous models. Also available is a new spare lamp, PK-L2312U, specially designed for JVC’s 2013 models. The PK-L2210U lamp for current JVC projectors remains available.

Accessories prices are:
PK-AG3 RF 3D Glasses$179
PK-EM2 RF Emitter $99
PK-L2312U Lamp $399

Thanks Frosteh!
post #102 of 384
So my question is about this quote..........

3D performance has been improved, with new circuitry and a new optical engine responsible for reduced cross talk. The result is more natural, clear and brighter images.

So I assume this means they are using the same slow ass 120hz panels? If so, how much can crosstalk realistically be improved? Still no CMD available in 3d from the sounds of it. Where is the "breakthrough" news? These look like a big fat YAWN to me. 1000 hours/1 year on the lamp is nice, but hell we basically have that now. What is there to get excited about really vs last year? confused.gif
post #103 of 384
^ Just like many of us thought. Evolutionary not revolutionary. No ground shaking "Breakthrough"
post #104 of 384
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Originally Posted by John Ballentine View Post

^ Just like many of us thought. Evolutionary not revolutionary. No ground shaking "Breakthrough"

Exactly. Maybe the breakthrough will happen next year, who knows.
post #105 of 384
Well, let's hope that RED will deliver their 4K laser projector early next year so that JVC and Sony have enough time to cook up competeting offers for next year's IFA/CEDIA. We do really need someone to jump the gun on high brightness solid state light sources. Those LED projectors out there today are nice, but simply not bright enough yet for decently sized screens. Also I wonder if LED/DLP might be a dead-end, after all I haven't heard any relevant news from Texas Instruments for what feels like decades...
post #106 of 384
any news on the new Mitsubishi SXRDs?
post #107 of 384
Given the substantial but not earth-shattering improvements, using the same basic shell, I am most surprised by the high MSRPs across the board. The review of the AE8000 on Projectorcentral, the Sony HW50 improvements and anticipated low price, and the Epson improvements suggest JVC needs to get to lower price points to stay relevant. I am a big fan of JVCs and high contrast, but the 3D reputations of Panasonic, Epson and Sony plus the stellar motion handling of higher speed chips from those manufacturers make for a formidable wall of competitors.
post #108 of 384
Sounds good to me so far. Looks like they redid the wire grid for eshift, which should increase ANSI contrast this year (last year was measured lower then the previous year)

Sounds like they improved 3D, but could also be complete BS. Will need hands on reports.

......most importantly they finally admit that the previous lamp was ****. I said I would not even consider a JVC anymore unless they fixed the lamp issues. By changing the lamp and POWER SUPPLY, they mostly likely fixed the problem (time will tell) Can't wait to hear more.
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So what does this mean regarding projectors? Not that I'll buy one of the new models, but that the previous versions are going to drop in price a couple hundred bucks (or more) and I'll be able to hold out until JVC really comes out with something stellar. Thanks JVC, for NOT coming out with anything revolutionary!

On another note, does anyone have any word about companies not exhibiting, such as BenQ? I'm interested to know if they have a follow up to the W7000, perhaps with better blacks or something. Depending on how bright the new line of JVC's are when calibrated, my decision between mega bright DLP and JVC blacks could be very difficult.

@Kraine: Did they release any pricing? I know it's going to be way out of my range, but I'm curious anyway.
post #111 of 384
Yes 160 000 euros eek.gifeek.gif
post #112 of 384
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Originally Posted by conan48 View Post

Sounds good to me so far. Looks like they redid the wire grid for eshift, which should increase ANSI contrast this year (last year was measured lower then the previous year)

Sounds like they improved 3D, but could also be complete BS. Will need hands on reports.

......most importantly they finally admit that the previous lamp was ****. I said I would not even consider a JVC anymore unless they fixed the lamp issues. By changing the lamp and POWER SUPPLY, they mostly likely fixed the problem (time will tell) Can't wait to hear more.

let us know when your first production run X75 arrives in November. I know you can't resist checking it out.. cool.gif


edit: Kraine, please post those excellent L/R screenshots when you get your first demos of the new models this year.
post #113 of 384
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Originally Posted by kraine View Post

Yes 160 000 euros eek.gifeek.gif

Too cheap, will get 20 of them! 18 will be only for YT videos showing destruction from fire, altitude, smashes, etc, etc.


About 4K there is no point if content is still unavailable.
post #114 of 384
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

So my question is about this quote..........
3D performance has been improved, with new circuitry and a new optical engine responsible for reduced cross talk. The result is more natural, clear and brighter images.
So I assume this means they are using the same slow ass 120hz panels? If so, how much can crosstalk realistically be improved? Still no CMD available in 3d from the sounds of it. Where is the "breakthrough" news? These look like a big fat YAWN to me. 1000 hours/1 year on the lamp is nice, but hell we basically have that now. What is there to get excited about really vs last year? confused.gif

They changed the power supply too, so no wonder the lamp life would improve (and I think now is stable too).

I'm not a fan of 3D, so to me it still looks promising.
post #115 of 384
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Originally Posted by whitetrash66 View Post

any idea on when the Mitsubishi stuff will be unveiled (rumored new SXRD projectors, and maybe a 4k one too)?

Any news ?
post #116 of 384
Anything new from BenQ 3D?
post #117 of 384
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Originally Posted by Gradius2 View Post

They changed the power supply too, so no wonder the lamp life would improve (and I think now is stable too).
I'm not a fan of 3D, so to me it still looks promising.

The improvements sound good to me too. Even the improved 3D sounds good to me too. I'll be watching 2D mostly anyway. I don't have a projector unlike some folks here and I'm looking to get the JVC RS48/X55 or possibly the JVCRS56/X75. We'll see.
post #118 of 384
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Originally Posted by whitetrash66 View Post

any news on the new Mitsubishi SXRDs?

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Originally Posted by RickAVManiac View Post

Any news ?

Mits has announced two new DLP projectors, but nothing new for SXRD/LCoS. Perhaps the rumors coming out of Europe about new SXRD projectors from Mits were just rumors after all. In any case Art (projector reviews) had a meeting with Mits this afternoon and should be posting something on his blog and/or audio report later this evening (or tomorrow). Also I suspect that later today we may also be hearing from some AVS members that have visited the Mits booth at CEDIA.
Edited by Ron Jones - 9/6/12 at 2:32pm
post #119 of 384
HC8000D and HC7800DW Turn Standard 2D Content Into Eye-Popping 3D

IRVINE, CA -- (Marketwire) -- 09/06/12 -- Mitsubishi Electric Visual Solutions America, Inc. showcases two of its new home theater projectors designed make 3D home theater viewing easier and more affordable: the HC8000D and HC7900DW projectors debut at the CEDIA Home Theater Show in Indianapolis, September 5-8, 2012 in Booth #1403.

"We've heard that there isn't enough 3D content in the marketplace, and that is definitely an issue," said Wayne Kozuki, product manager, Mitsubishi Electric Visual Solutions America, Inc. "Our new projectors have an amazing 2D-to-3D conversion feature that actually turns regular 2D films into amazing 3D movies. Even old movies like The Wizard of Oz can become a 3D masterpiece, right in your own home."

The HC7900DW and HC8000D projectors use one of the industry's best 2D-to-3D Frame Rate Conversion technologies, resulting in a near-perfect simulation of a true 3D frame of vision. Using Mitsubishi's own algorithms in calculating and interpolating multiple depth levels in a 2D image, this new, high-speed frame reproduction technology produces detailed, high-definition 3D images with minimum crosstalk or distortion so 3D content appears to literally jump off the screen, even in high-speed action scenes.

The HC8000D supports Mitsubishi's proprietary 3D glasses (sold separately), but both models are compatible with Universal 3D glasses, making family viewing easy and more affordable. The projectors also allow friends to watch 3D sporting events like football games in a party atmosphere, with attendees bringing their own 3D glasses.

"With the HC8000 and the HC7900, we solved two of the biggest issues with 3D home theater," added Kozuki. "Now there are practically unlimited 3D movies available, and you can invite your friends over to watch them in 3D without a huge investment."

Mitsubishi's HC8000D boasts an impressive 330,000:1 contrast ratio for rich details, even in darkly-lit movies or film noir and 1300 lumens of brightness, making it a great option for gaming. Its extra-long lamp life, up to 5000* hours in low mode, can provide years of movie, television and gaming enjoyment, depending on usage.

The new HC7900DW projector features 150,000:1 contrast ratio, 1500 lumens of brightness and up to 5000* hours of lamp life as well. It comes in a white cabinet, and when installed, can easily match the aesthetics of a white ceiling.

Both projectors use Texas Instruments' latest DLP® .065-inch DMD chip to create exciting, vibrant 2D and 3D images in full high-definition, 1080P resolution. An ultra-hushed fan in each creates 23 dBa in low mode, so viewers only hear quiet dialogue or soft music during a movie or television show, not an annoying fan hum.

Two of the latest HDMI version 1.4 inputs in each projector support 3D signals as well as provide easy set-up options for multiple video inputs. The projectors' RS232 support offers plug-and-play connectivity for easy integration with third-party remote operations and control in higher-end installations.

The HC8000D will be available through authorized Mitsubishi Electric distributors and dealers and the HC7900DW through dealers and on the Internet, just in time for the year-end holiday gift giving season. Both will be competitively priced.

"Our new slogan is, Your World, Bigger, and it's obvious that Mitsubishi does exactly that by making your content choices bigger and your home theater experience more affordable," said James Chan, vice president, marketing, Mitsubishi Electric Visual Solutions America. "We've received quite a few Editor's Choice Awards with previous models; and initial feedback is that these two new ones are even better."

About Mitsubishi Electric Visual Solutions America, Inc.
Headquartered in Irvine, Calif., Mitsubishi Electric Visual Solutions America, Inc. is a US subsidiary of Mitsubishi Electric Corporation of Tokyo, Japan. Mitsubishi Electric Visual Solutions America manufactures and markets projectors, data wall display systems, LCD digital signage monitors and players, industrial printers, photo kiosks and digital photo printers, large-screen 3D DLP® televisions and the world's first laser TV, LaserVue®.

For more on Mitsubishi Electric Visual Solutions America, visit http://www.mevsa.com. Connect with Mitsubishi on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/MitsubishiDisplays) and Twitter (http://twitter.com/MitsuDisplays)

*For an explanation of and information on estimated lamp life, visit please http://www.mitsubishi-presentations.com/wp-content/files_mf/lamp_and_lamp_life_document_v09132009.pdf. This estimate does not extend or otherwise modify the warranty for the lamp.
post #120 of 384
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Originally Posted by Highjinx View Post

Anything new from BenQ 3D?

I would love to know this as well. Is there a successor to the 7000 and if so is it being shown?
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