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post #61 of 158
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I never been to Bjorns, luckily we have AB TV and Frys in my parts tongue.gif

You should take a look at Bjorn's. Just don't take a spin in theis room: http://www.bjorns.com/about/The-Ultimate-Room.aspx. You'll start dreaming about a D-Box setup.
post #62 of 158
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You should take a look at Bjorn's. Just don't take a spin in theis room: http://www.bjorns.com/about/The-Ultimate-Room.aspx. You'll start dreaming about a D-Box setup.

Hey Rob,

Modia here in Austin has this already (D-Box or something similar to it). I am sure its not actual D-box but I remember the chairs moved and vibrated biggrin.gif
post #63 of 158
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For the first layer of drywall (1/2 in) I used DAP Dynaflex (50 year flexible caulk) to seal gaps. I used exeactly 12 tubes that I picked up at Lowes. I'm going to use acoustic sealant for the second layer next week. I would have used acoustic sealant for the first layer but I didnt want to wait a week to get the job done (none available locally).

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I caulked the heck out of everything. Here's the thermostat wire to the left of the entry door:

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Edited by RobZ - 10/14/12 at 3:41pm
post #64 of 158
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Here are the ceiling beams/trays. They're the weak link to the attic space above so I'm going to stuff them with batting before they're finished with wood veneer. I may end up sealing them in from the attic above once we open up the attic and install the ladder in the garage next to it. There's no attic firewall seperating the garage from the theater's attic space so it shouldnt be too difficult if batting isnt enough.

Another option is stuffing it with batting and then a layer of mass loaded vinyl before the veneer. I dont have the option of drywall because of the added thickness. Need to look into this.




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post #65 of 158
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When planning the home's build I decided to opt for two windows (will be to the right of the viewing position in the theater). The designer recommended going without them but I wanted to future proof it in the event that we convert it to a multi purpose living space and I'm fortunate enough to build a seperate detached theater cool.gif.
One window is on a ship from Germany heading to Monterey Mexico before it makes it's way here. We purchased German UPVC windows that have the look of Mahohany wood.

I plan on layering them unless there's an issue with condensation or ?:

My thoughts

Option 1
Layer 1: The window (thick double pane glass)
Layer 2: blackout blind
Layer 3: I'll make a panel of OC703 fully covered with acoustic cloth and no backing
Layer 4: The 48"w x 66"h windows covered with 4x6 1" acoustic suede panels with open backs (not sure if Acoustical Solutions has this option). ATS Acoustics does. http://www.atsacoustics.com/cat--ATS-Suede-Acoustic-Panels--109.html


Option 2
Layer 1: the window
Layer 2: blackout blinds
Layer 3: Closed back 2" thick 4x6 Soundsuede panels from Acoustical Solutions http://www.acousticalsolutions.com/567~soundsuede-fabric-wrapped-wall-panels






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Edited by RobZ - 10/14/12 at 3:31pm
post #66 of 158
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Thanks to SoundproofingCompany.com I have an easier solution for the beams. I'm going to finish closing up the gaps with 2x6's and seal all of the gaps before the veneer. I'll likely still stuff it with batting as well.
I also placed an order for a case of GG Acoustical Sealant for the second layer of drywall.
post #67 of 158
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Today's Green Glue day!

I also just found out that our home completion target is not until March. The delay is because we are planning going with a furniture finish stain of all trim, doors, cabinets etc that will require quite a bit of time and work. The door is also in the process of being built. We're going with a solid birch sealed door with a bit of added thickness.
post #68 of 158
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Finalized the seating order with the help of Ken at Stargate Cinema:
5 Lane 175 Grand Slams in black leather match with power recline. Each with a Buttkicker Advance BK4-4 & custom bracket for Berklines
IOVOIOIOVOI configuration

There will be only a few inches between the sides of the row (armrests) and the acoustic panels on the walls and covering window openings. (157in row and 164in space between panels)




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post #69 of 158
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New idea for the color scheme:



Walls & ceiling niches: grey suede

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Screenwall (black velvet) & ceiling (black paint), leather seating: black

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Suede acoustic panels

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Carpet: black or dark grey pattern

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or

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Baseboards, trim, door, riser trim, & beams: dark stain

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Edited by RobZ - 10/17/12 at 6:22pm
post #70 of 158
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Updated thoughts on screen:

All of the JVCs have a 1.4:1 throw at the shortest end. From a throw of 13.25 ft (approx 156 in) = a max screen width of approx 114-115 in. I may be able to squeeze in a 128 in diagonal 2.05:1 Carada. This will allow for a 115 in wide 2.39:1 image and a 115 in 1.85:1.

Here's an interesting post displaying the aspect ratios on the screen: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1270627/thought-i-wanted-cih-but#post_19068532
post #71 of 158
I like that color scheme. Very nice combination. I would suggest getting samples of as many of the materials as you can and testing them side by side using the lighting in your space. I'm confident everything will pretty much go black when you dim the lights for a movie. If you ever plan on having the lights at low to moderate levels for extended periods of time, you want to make sure you still have some level of contrast between materials just for some visual interest.

What is the photo between your seats and the gray suede acoustic panels?
post #72 of 158
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I like that color scheme. I would suggest getting samples of as many of the materials as you can and testing them side by side using the lighting in your space. I'm confident everything will pretty much go black when you dim the lights for a movie. If you ever plan on having the lights at low to moderate levels for extended periods of time, you want to make sure you still have some level of contrast between materials just for some visual interest.
What is the photo between your seats and the gray suede acoustic panels?

The photo is black velvet (screen wall curtains). The stain color may be a bit more of a dark mahogany instead of the espresso stain shown. As soon as I decide on the color scheme I'll start requesting the samples. So far I think it's between the brown and tan suedes and the grey sued color scheme.
post #73 of 158
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I'm considering opting for two PB13 Ultras up front and the MBM12 behind the row of chairs.
I think that will work out great. A MBM behind your seats in that small space would give you some real thump.
post #74 of 158
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I think that will work out great. A MBM behind your seats in that small space would give you some real thump.

I was even considering two PB13 Ultras up front, Two MBMS behind the row of seats, and a Buttkicker Advance in each seat. This would require me to purchase one more ultra and an MBM. I'll give the current setup a try before I decide.
post #75 of 158
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I finalized my door order today. The door will be a custom made 1 3/4 solid birch 3ft wide x 8 ft tall with a swing that opens away from the theater. The door builder will design a matching diamond shape lower panel to match the 10 ft wide cabinets housing all of the gear for the theater and family room (located next to entrance). He's hand making a forged iron "Cinema" that will be raised off of the top panel (mounted similar to a pull handle).

Thanks to John Hile at Soundproofing Company, I special ordered a 96" Zero door seal and automatic door bottom. These will be mounted on the theater side of the door, which is good as they are not very aesthetically appealing.

Here's a drawing of the door design:





Here's a pic of the seal system. The aluminum frame that is pictured will be on the theater's interior side and not visible from the family room entry to the theater.

Door Seal & door bottom
post #76 of 158
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I decided on a screen for my RS20 (will likely upgrade to another JVC so calculations for throw will need to stay at 1.4:1 on short throw). Lens to screen will be at a little more than 13ft (wall to wall is a bit more than 180 in - 2 in for screen depth - 20in for projector and space between wall = 158-160 throw). This will barely allow for 113-115 in wide screen. I opted for a 115 in wide (125 in diagonal) 2.35:1.
post #77 of 158
I vote for the black carpet looks amazing so far. I like the grey
post #78 of 158
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We were just hit with a heavy stome with very heavy downpour for less than a half hour. Our roof is up, windows in, sheetrock is up, and they are generally on tape and float. I was panicking so I drove over to the house to take a look at any potential probems. Of course the one problem I find is in the theater room. Water made its way in from the roof and created a couple of very small puddles. Keep in mind that even the foam insulation has been sprayed. I contacted the builder and he said it was because they have not finished sealing the roof's perimiter rolleyes.gif. Literally texted me that 90% of roof is sealed!! mad.gif WTF!!! I asked him how they sheetrock and not even have a sealed roof? Tomorrow I'm calling an independent inspector to take a thorouh look. All of that DD and GG on the ceiling needs to come off at his expense. Looks like I'll be calling ted for some more GG. mad.gif



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post #79 of 158
Sucks about the ceiling man. I know more than I care to share about contractor problems (working on a lawsuit right now).

Quick question. Your color scheme is similar to one that I've been thinking about, but I've been having issues with carpet selection. What is that carpet that you picked out?
post #80 of 158
Eh man sorry to hear that. I just built a new home 9 months ago and everytime it pours I run to check my basement as well
post #81 of 158
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Sucks about the ceiling man. I know more than I care to share about contractor problems (working on a lawsuit right now).
Quick question. Your color scheme is similar to one that I've been thinking about, but I've been having issues with carpet selection. What is that carpet that you picked out?

This particular carpet is Shaw: http://shawfloors.com/carpetDetails/Ag_Sizzle_With_Style_00A48-Black_Coals
Shaw 49512 Black Coals
A local vendor told me that she doesn't know if it is now discontinued. She'll find out from Shaw in the morning. I'll post info on it as soon as she gets back to me. Sh says it may be listed under another model or number now. Fingers crossed.




Stargate Cinema carries a pretty cool carpet as well:

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Edited by RobZ - 10/19/12 at 6:46am
post #82 of 158
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Eh man sorry to hear that. I just built a new home 9 months ago and everytime it pours I run to check my basement as well

Building a home has been one of the biggest pain in the ass experiences that I've dealt with. Never again! Everything costs more. On top of that I pour every last cent and time into it only to see as--ole subs and workers treat it as if they don't give a crap about their work. Cheap labor from South of us results in these types of problems. Every day is a new expense and a new frustration. Very few days bring joy or sense of unexpected satisfaction.

I've already called the GC and told him all of the ceiling drywall that was exposed to water needs to come down and I 'll order more GG at his expense. They also left a stack of the 5/8 sheetrock exposed at the garage entry. The edges were wet but I told him anything wet needs replacing. BTW, I personally purchased the 5/8 so I take it even more personally.
Edited by RobZ - 10/18/12 at 7:20pm
post #83 of 158
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I vote for the black carpet looks amazing so far. I like the grey


Of all the color schemes I've considered, the grey is my preferred. Looks modern and clean. Perfect for staring at the deep blacks of a JVC. My wife prefers it too so that helps.
post #84 of 158
Sorry to hear of your frustrations. Unfortunately in this day and time it is rare that you find people who actually take pride in their work and do what is really truly needed in the situation. My wife and I have never built a home, mostly because of all the headaches involved and the total commitment you have to give to be there all the time to make sure things are getting done they way they are supposed to.

I have found just a handful of handymen/contractors and other professionals I actually trust. The others I have dealt with I felt like I had to be there hovering over their shoulder to make sure it met my standards.

Hopefully you will be on your way again without much more frustration and delays.

Good luck.

Regards,

RTROSE

BTW I really like the grey as well. If the wife likes it, that too is a major bonus.
post #85 of 158
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Thanks RTROSE. The GC had the roofer out there this morning. Apparently they pulled roofing off of some areas and didn't replace yet. Looks like the underlayment was intact but who knows. They pulled off all of the theater's ceiling drywall and are using a pressure washer to test for weak points prior to reinstalling.
post #86 of 158
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Just received a case of 12 of the GG acoustic sealant. I din't pay attention to the size of the tubes and ordered the quantity thinking they were standard caulk size tubes. Oh well, looks like I'm going to go crazy sealing up the seams and every crack or opening I find this weekend.

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post #87 of 158
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New screen plan:


I had this brand new, never even put together, 148in Da Lite High Power 2.35:1 (58x136) sitting in a box. Its a Perm Wall so its not very sexy. I can later make a velvet trim border to cover the buttons and improve the ability to hide overscan. The viewing distance in my last room was the same as the new room. I loved the 58x104 image for 16x9 but really thought the masking it down to scope sucked. This should work fine from a 12-13ft viewing distance giving me the same 119in 16x9 (which I'll mask to 16x9 with already ordered black velvet drapes mounted on black Levolor Kirsch ceiling track). Now I need to order a longer Chief extension pole to drop the projector down and take advantage of the high gain screen. BTW, this is the old 2.7 gain material and not the new 2.4. The setup will place the projector at a little more than 1.5 throw so there will be a bit of pincushioning. I'll have some wiggle room for extra zoom so it shouldn't be a problem.

Also ordered the UH480 lens, MTH1: Manual transport sled, AK8PRO: Attachment kit, RPA KIT: Ceiling plate and 3" extension pole


Here's a pic of "Fat Dave's" mounted: http://www.quag.ca/gallery/screen/Perm-wall-3.jpg My screen wall will have black velvet curtains so the border will probably be a little less visible regardless of whether or not I DIY a velvet trim.


*Found some DIY'ers 3in Black velvet tape. It's worth a try for $30.


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Here's a shot of me next to the screen to give a size perspective.

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Edited by RobZ - 10/22/12 at 7:55pm
post #88 of 158
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Progress with the rest of the home. We're on tape & float. Here's the home's entrance and hallway. The entry door is in the center of the hall to the left. (bowing on walls is lens distortion )

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post #89 of 158
Very nice!! Love the arches and the details around the windows.
post #90 of 158
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Very nice!! Love the arches and the details around the windows.

Thanks.
Edited by RobZ - 10/22/12 at 8:19pm
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