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post #91 of 129
10/22/12 at 11:18am
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I'm also looking at ceiling mount options. I have a Chief RPA mount as well as a chiel lateral shift adapter. I'll need to go with a 48" extension pole to take advantage of the high power but I'm concerned about vibration.

Here's one option for the ceiling plate that "may" help with vibration control when using such a long extension:

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post #92 of 129
10/23/12 at 4:24pm
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A new toy came in today. Unfortunately I have to wait a few months or more to try it out.

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post #93 of 129
10/23/12 at 7:32pm
Ah, I love when Christmas comes early! I have been hearing good things about the Darbee. Curious to see what you think, I'll just have to be patient and see what you think. The rest of the house is looking good as well.

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RTROSE
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post #94 of 129
10/23/12 at 7:40pm
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Ah, I love when Christmas comes early! I have been hearing good things about the Darbee. Curious to see what you think, I'll just have to be patient and see what you think. The rest of the house is looking good as well.
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RTROSE

Believe it or not I've only read a couple of positive posts about it. I'm staying away from reviews before I determine if I like it's enhancements. Now I'm looking for a better PJ to help enhance the Darbee. biggrin.gif RS56 or 66? I've been looking into the VW1000 as well but from my past experience I hate dumping so much into something that will be worth nothing in a few years. Now I never took a significant hit like a Qualia purchase. The experience of purchasing an H79 for $6k and selling it for $4k less a year later is enough for me.
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post #95 of 129
10/23/12 at 9:10pm
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Believe it or not I've only read a couple of positive posts about it. I'm staying away from reviews before I determine if I like it's enhancements. Now I'm looking for a better PJ to help enhance the Darbee. biggrin.gif RS56 or 66? I've been looking into the VW1000 as well but from my past experience I hate dumping so much into something that will be worth nothing in a few years. Now I never took a significant hit like a Qualia purchase. The experience of purchasing an H79 for $6k and selling it for $4k less a year later is enough for me.

I agree Rob. For those with unlimited disposable income, it's not a real concern. I laugh at myself because I'm a gear head and I've lost tens of thousands of dollars in motor upgrades but cringe thinking about a couple thousand dollar loss on a pj. I do think PF's have the largest rate of depreciation of all HT gear, followed closely by a receiver. Technology is a blessing and a curse all wrapped into one.

Projectors also reach a diminishing point of return much quicker than other gear. Take the RS50 vs 60 or 55 vs 65. A very small increase in picture came at a high entry price. How much value do you place on a 1,2,3% increase in contrast, etc.
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post #96 of 129
10/24/12 at 5:12am
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A new toy came in today. Unfortunately I have to wait a few months or more to try it out.
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Was thinking about picking one up for my Rs46
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post #97 of 129
10/24/12 at 6:32am
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I agree Rob. For those with unlimited disposable income, it's not a real concern. I laugh at myself because I'm a gear head and I've lost tens of thousands of dollars in motor upgrades but cringe thinking about a couple thousand dollar loss on a pj. I do think PF's have the largest rate of depreciation of all HT gear, followed closely by a receiver. Technology is a blessing and a curse all wrapped into one.
Projectors also reach a diminishing point of return much quicker than other gear. Take the RS50 vs 60 or 55 vs 65. A very small increase in picture came at a high entry price. How much value do you place on a 1,2,3% increase in contrast, etc.


I don't place much value on minimal improvements anymore. That's why I still have my RS20. Now that JVC has "faux K" and I'm going with a 1:1 viewing distance, I'm starting to feel the need for an upgrade. Half decent 3D may also come in handy for the kids. An RS56 or 4810 probably makes the most sense and a B stock VW1000 is about $9k more than I'd like to spend. I think I've already eliminated the RS66 so now it's deciding between the 56 and 4810.
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post #98 of 129
10/24/12 at 1:01pm
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I decided to get on the pre-order list for the RS4810. After selling the RS20 the cost will not be so great that I'll take a major hit if I decide to upgrade in a year or two. Aparently it will also have higher lumens than the RS56 so that's another plus.
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post #99 of 129
10/24/12 at 7:44pm
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I decided to get on the pre-order list for the RS4810. After selling the RS20 the cost will not be so great that I'll take a major hit if I decide to upgrade in a year or two. Aparently it will also have higher lumens than the RS56 so that's another plus.

Awesome. Exact same upgrade path I'm going with. Unless something else pops up in the meantime. smile.gif
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post #100 of 129
10/24/12 at 7:57pm
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Awesome. Exact same upgrade path I'm going with. Unless something else pops up in the meantime. smile.gif

I was calling to join the RS56 list but I'm hearing that the 4810 is expected to have higher light out put. What are your thoughts on what you've read on the 4810 and the 56?
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post #101 of 129
10/24/12 at 8:57pm
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I was calling to join the RS56 list but I'm hearing that the 4810 is expected to have higher light out put. What are your thoughts on what you've read on the 4810 and the 56?

Well I've been researching them till my eyes hurt, lol.

As we talked about earlier, I was looking for the most options for the buck. In the past couple gens the lower end models generally put out more light output than the higher models. Now the higher models have better native contrast, but when I have more horsepower allowing me to clamp down the iris, that distance in narrowed in a hurry. In real world viewing I don't think I'd see enough improvement in black levels to justify the 2k+ in price.

The 4810 seems to be the sweet spot. It offers an improved eshift 2, and full CMS; not to mention 3 year warranty. I don't see any major breakthroughs happening for at least the next couple years, so this will fit the bill nicely until that happens.
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post #102 of 129
10/25/12 at 6:01am
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Good points. For me its higher light output and lower cost vs. nearly double the stated CR. With total light control, black floor, screenwall, and ceiling and an HP screen I'm questioning whether I need the extra light or would be able to see the 56's better contrast. I'm also thinking about the THX mode, though who knows how accurate it will be this time around.
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post #103 of 129
10/25/12 at 10:19am
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Good points. For me its higher light output and lower cost vs. nearly double the stated CR. With total light control, black floor, screenwall, and ceiling and an HP screen I'm questioning whether I need the extra light or would be able to see the 56's better contrast. I'm also thinking about the THX mode, though who knows how accurate it will be this time around.

I don't put any stock in JVC's OOB accuracy. I'm not even counting on a properly working CMS in the 4810. In your setup I do think you will see a benefit from the higher native CR in the 56 over the 4810. But twice the CR won't yield twice the perceived improvement in real viewing. There has been a lot of debate over this.

IMO, the blacks on the JVC's are so good to begin with, even a 50% improvement would be nominal at best. Doubling the BL on a mediocre projector will be more noticeable than on one with a great BL to start with IMO. Also keep in mind that a lot depends on your movie genre. If you are a huge Sci Fi fan than obviously you'd lean towards a pj with a higher CR ratio. For my viewing I value sharpness and good motion first, any extra improvement in BL is icing on the cake.
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post #104 of 129
10/26/12 at 6:07pm
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I don't put any stock in JVC's OOB accuracy. I'm not even counting on a properly working CMS in the 4810. In your setup I do think you will see a benefit from the higher native CR in the 56 over the 4810. But twice the CR won't yield twice the perceived improvement in real viewing. There has been a lot of debate over this.
IMO, the blacks on the JVC's are so good to begin with, even a 50% improvement would be nominal at best. Doubling the BL on a mediocre projector will be more noticeable than on one with a great BL to start with IMO. Also keep in mind that a lot depends on your movie genre. If you are a huge Sci Fi fan than obviously you'd lean towards a pj with a higher CR ratio. For my viewing I value sharpness and good motion first, any extra improvement in BL is icing on the cake.

I'm wondering whether I'll see enough benefit from the4810 over the RS20. 3D is not really our thing (two 64" 3D Samsung plasmas and only one film viewed in 3D over the past year). Light output from the RS20 is pretty good and I have a nice sharp calibrated copy. It's a $2k upgrade so not too bad but what will next years JVC line bring...true 4K?
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post #105 of 129
10/26/12 at 9:48pm
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I'm wondering whether I'll see enough benefit from the4810 over the RS20. 3D is not really our thing (two 64" 3D Samsung plasmas and only one film viewed in 3D over the past year). Light output from the RS20 is pretty good and I have a nice sharp calibrated copy. It's a $2k upgrade so not too bad but what will next years JVC line bring...true 4K?

I did too. I just passed up a killer deal on an RS55 so I'm praying this 4810 turns out to be the sleeper pj of the year and worth the price of admission.
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post #106 of 129
10/27/12 at 5:24am
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I did too. I just passed up a killer deal on an RS55 so I'm praying this 4810 turns out to be the sleeper pj of the year and worth the price of admission.

I was looking for an RS55 but gave up. Bstocks were RS45 and 65 only.
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post #107 of 129
10/27/12 at 5:40am
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Acoustic treatments:

I was considering making my own frames and purchasing OC703 or acoustic cotton and a ton of Soundsuede. I made dozens of these in the past and it proved to be as simple as it gets. Unfortunately my wife feels that the ATSacoustics.com suede panels and the panels that Jauter purchased from Acousticalsolutions.com are cleaner looking. I didn't make beveled edges and my panels were a cheap open weave material.


ATS Acoustic Panel Custom Sizes. All are Mercury color microsuede 2 inch beveled except the bass traps

five 4x6 covering two windows, two on back wall, one on wall opposite windows
one 3x3 left side first reflection point
Two 9ft tall corner bass traps (triangle 24 wide by 16 deep) rear corners
Applegate Acoustical Cotton Batts, 2 Inch to fill between window blackout shades and acoustic panels covering windows. Also fabric covered cotton batts 1ft wide to place next to screen behind velvet curtains.
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post #108 of 129
10/27/12 at 7:08pm
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Acoustic treatments:
I was considering making my own frames and purchasing OC703 or acoustic cotton and a ton of Soundsuede. I made dozens of these in the past and it proved to be as simple as it gets. Unfortunately my wife feels that the ATSacoustics.com suede panels and the panels that Jauter purchased from Acousticalsolutions.com are cleaner looking. I didn't make beveled edges and my panels were a cheap open weave material.
ATS Acoustic Panel Custom Sizes. All are Mercury color microsuede 2 inch beveled except the bass traps
five 4x6 covering two windows, two on back wall, one on wall opposite windows
one 3x3 left side first reflection point
Two 9ft tall corner bass traps (triangle 24 wide by 16 deep) rear corners
Applegate Acoustical Cotton Batts, 2 Inch to fill between window blackout shades and acoustic panels covering windows. Also fabric covered cotton batts 1ft wide to place next to screen behind velvet curtains.

Was thinking of making some myself. Been doing a lot of reading on it.

Figuring out where I place them is the problem for me
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post #109 of 129
10/29/12 at 5:12pm
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I haven't done much this week. I stuffed the beams with R13 before they are sealed next week with 3/4" wood. There are two rolled up layers throughout the beams.




We're also planning the tech stuff for the rest of the house and today was display day. All of these are being stored with the exception of one currently being used in our rental:


64" Samsung 3D Plasma for family room
63" Samsung 3D Plasma for master bedroom
40" Samsung LCD for bedroom
Two 32" Samsung LCD for bedrooms
Samsung 32 LCD for Gym
32" Sony LCD for patio (older model placed on outside duty)
32" Hiteker LED (purchased because its slim 2", white for bathroom)
19" white Vizio LCD for pantry (used as security monitor)
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post #110 of 129
10/29/12 at 6:23pm
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While waiting for my row of five Lanes to come in I picked up a pair of overflow seating. These will have a viewing distance of around 8 feet from the screen so they'll only be used when the kids are hanging out or when we're watching someting 16x9 (58x104 image size).
These chairs have the backrest that folds to turn into an ottoman so we can easily store them when not in use. Dimensions are 28.75"W x 22.5"D x 31.5"H












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post #111 of 129
10/29/12 at 7:03pm
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These chairs have the backrest that folds to turn into an ottoman so we can easily store them when not in use. Dimensions are 28.75"W x 22.5"D x 31.5"H

Cool. Who makes these chairs?
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post #112 of 129
10/30/12 at 7:30am
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We're also planning the tech stuff for the rest of the house and today was display day. All of these are being stored with the exception of one currently being used in our rental:
64" Samsung 3D Plasma for family room
63" Samsung 3D Plasma for master bedroom
40" Samsung LCD for bedroom
Two 32" Samsung LCD for bedrooms
Samsung 32 LCD for Gym
32" Sony LCD for patio (older model placed on outside duty)
32" Hiteker LED (purchased because its slim 2", white for bathroom)
19" white Vizio LCD for pantry (used as security monitor)

Ten TVs/displays, not including your projector? eek.gif

Are you outfitting a house or a sports bar?! wink.gif

Looking great! Can't wait to see the final product!
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post #113 of 129
10/30/12 at 9:11am
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Cool. Who makes these chairs?


I was just notified that they are discontinued and pre-auth was cancelled on my card. frown.gif
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post #114 of 129
11/18/12 at 9:28am
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Final color scheme:

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post #115 of 129
11/18/12 at 2:22pm
Love the color palate very sharp. Especially like the "Cracked Pepper. Where do they come up with these names? Excellent carpet selection as well. You have my approval. Not that you needed it. wink.gif

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #116 of 129
11/18/12 at 5:06pm
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Option 2
Layer 1: the window
Layer 2: blackout blinds
Layer 3: Closed back 2" thick 4x6 Soundsuede panels from Acoustical Solutions http://www.acousticalsolutions.com/567~soundsuede-fabric-wrapped-wall-panels
Did you end up with option 2?
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post #117 of 129
11/20/12 at 6:12am
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Love the color palate very sharp. Especially like the "Cracked Pepper. Where do they come up with these names? Excellent carpet selection as well. You have my approval. Not that you needed it. wink.gif
Regards,
RTROSE

I was lucky. My wife told me she liked all of the dark grey and black patterns and nothing light, white, or cream color.
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post #118 of 129
11/20/12 at 6:14am
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Did you end up with option 2?

I'm still waiting for one window to come in. I'll be going with blackout shade, acoustic cotton, and DIY acoustic panels using the suede material.
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post #119 of 129
11/20/12 at 10:03am
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I'm still waiting for one window to come in. I'll be going with blackout shade, acoustic cotton, and DIY acoustic panels using the suede material.
I would build a removeable "plug" for the window(s) with a couple layers of drywall under the acoustic panels. The acoustic cotton won't do much for sound transmission.
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11/20/12 at 10:14am
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I would build a removeable "plug" for the window(s) with a couple layers of drywall under the acoustic panels. The acoustic cotton won't do much for sound transmission.

My only concern is condensation building up inside. I'll have to give it some thought.
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