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post #421 of 637
in amazon the gw77 is $100 cheaper
post #422 of 637
So I returned the gw77v and then didn't
know what to buy that's small.... So I bought a used one shipped at b&h for 489 and decided it will hold me over until next years cams come out....
post #423 of 637
So I returned the gw77v and then didn't
know what to buy that's small.... So I bought a used one shipped at b&h for 489 and decided it will hold me over until next years cams come out....
post #424 of 637
Thread Starter 
GW77 Video: Nanjing in the Fall.

Nanjing is filled with trees, and in the fall they display their colors and attract photographers. In part 1 we see the Sun Yat-sen mausoleum grounds, Ming dynasty tombs, the National Palace museum, and part of the ancient city wall. Two dolly shots.

In part 2 we visit to the the campus of Southeast University, see T'ai Chi, JimingTemple, burn incense sticks, walk on the ancient city wall, and finally, pedal boating on Xuanwu Lake.



Part 1:

https://vimeo.com/55222890


Part 2:


https://vimeo.com/55233632

Nanjing map.jpg 715k .jpg file Nanjing map.jpg 555k .jpg file


Edited by markr041 - 12/9/12 at 6:27pm
post #425 of 637
Very nice videos, thanks for sharing. I always smile when I see how serious Asians are with thier gear - and love how they can get their family to pose and stage scenes.

I thought I read you use Vegas 12. If so, what general rendering settings are you using? I thought u also might have said you just upload the video to vimeo but I can't imagine you would because of the massive size.
post #426 of 637
Thread Starter 
Editing: for all of the uploaded GW77 Vimeo videos (except the one on the rail emergency) I use Sony Playmemories Home in order to preserve the original quality - that program is used to trim and merge. Thus, the 108060p camera originals are uploaded (big files), and they can be downloaded from Vimeo so that anyone can gage their original quality. I only use Sony Vegas Pro when I want to add titling or want to play with color grades.

I do not pay for internet access at home by the GB (most do not), and it takes less work to upload originals than to convert. Moreover, Vimeo (and YouTube) converts no matter what you upload, so the streaming version will be better quality if I do not convert first.
Edited by markr041 - 12/10/12 at 6:42am
post #427 of 637
Quote:
Originally Posted by markr041 View Post

....... I use Sony Playmemories Home in order to preserve the original quality - that program is used to trim and merge.
My PlayMemories Home just upgraded to 2.0 with "Extended Features". I haven't figured out the changes yet, but a Vimeo link is included. Note the Vimeo button on the right.



Bill

On Edit:
I found more info at Sony Support for the RX100. I tried at the GW77 page and didn't see it.

The release date was 11/30/2012

We are offering PlayMemories Home software version 2.0 for download. This software is also provided for installation / upgrade for users of PlayMemories Home, Picture Motion Browser, and Cyber-shot® Viewer software.
This software update provides the following new features over previous updates:
  • Design changes to enhance usability
  • Support for touch screen operations
  • Capability to combine MP4 videos
  • Capability to create a data disc with still images
  • Capability to delete position information and comments from the images to be uploaded
  • Enhanced search function
  • Enhanced and faster interoperability with PlayMemories Online service (applicable only in countries where the PlayMemories Online service is available

Edited by bsprague - 12/10/12 at 10:31am
post #428 of 637
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Originally Posted by markr041 View Post

GW77 Video: Nanjing in the Fall.

Nice footage Mark. I normally will not walk with a cam but your footage of walking along the paths demonstates how good the stabilization of GW77 is while walking. I'll tell you, for such a small unit that's pretty incredible.
post #429 of 637
If Sony made a pro version of the GW77 with full manual control, mic input, hot shoe, etc. that would be amazing.
post #430 of 637
Thread Starter 
If they made a GW77 pro version (I wish!), I bet it would not come in the bright blue color smile.gif.

I used the new PlayMemories Home (2.0) to edit the Nanjing footage. For my purposes they actually made editing a little more difficult (more mouse clicks). And it plays clips in full screen, which is less useful (at least I have not found a way to not do this). For a novice to the program, they made things easier to figure out.

I enjoy the ersatz dolly shots by walking. Turns out a brisk pace does better (smoother) than slow walks.
Edited by markr041 - 12/10/12 at 6:03pm
post #431 of 637
Have a question, and do not want to create a new thread - I am using HX9V and video-wise am very sastified with the image quality, stabilization and sound. The still image quality is poor though. Now I'm thinking of buying GW77 and wonder how does it compare to GW77? Is IQ better? How about manual functions - they are basically absent in HX9V.
Mark, I know you have (had) both, could you please comment?

My plan is to purchase NEX6 for stills (and video, but only in emergencies) and GW77 for video.

One more question - could somebody please recommend decent sellers in Hongkong?

Thanks in advance and greetings from Shanghai!
post #432 of 637
Thread Starter 
The GW77 video is significantly better than than that of the Hx9v. The GW77 has a better LCD (the Hx9v LCD is 4:3 and you lose part of the screen in video mode); the GW77 has a touch screen (the Hx9v does not), which is really useful for focusing on the subject you want and doing focus pulls while shooting. The manual modes in video are WB (you cannot set WB for video on the Hx9v), exposure, focus. The zoom is completely silent, smoother and variable speed - much better mechanism - more controllable - than the Hx9v. The GW77, with its f1.8 lens, is far superior to the Hx9v in low light over the complete zoom range. That alone makes it much better for video.
post #433 of 637
Thanks a lot for informative post, Mark!
Any clue where I could buy GW77 in HK?
post #434 of 637
Thread Starter 
There are Sony stores in HK, at many of the shopping malls. They sell the GW77, and had them on display (complete with a small tub of water to dip one in).

http://www.sony.com.hk/storelocator/apps/storeLocator/storeLocator.do?lang=en
post #435 of 637
Thanks Mark for the info, I wonder though if the stores offer any bargains or are these all official Sony stores that sell cameras for MRSP? I will be in HK for a few days only and hope to be over with shopping in short time and spend the rest playing at Disneyland...
post #436 of 637
Thread Starter 
Even in the US, the GW77 is not sold at below MSRP anywhere except a few grey market stores (no Sony Warranty), and even there the discount is something like $50. Sometimes Sony has official sales, and the price is lower at every store and Sony stores, and sometimes bargain packages (like a free customized case).
post #437 of 637
It is then very different than in the PRC, where the Sony stores offer the products for the most expensive prices, while the dealers offer substancial discounts - with warranty (which is valid only here though). There is also a grey market with products smuggled from abroad - mainly from Hongkong...smile.gif
BTW for unkown reasons GW77 has never been on sale in China.
post #438 of 637
post #439 of 637
Is it a PAL model? I cannot find any info about it, but usually PAL models are more expensive than their NTSC counterparts.
post #440 of 637
Thread Starter 
post #441 of 637
Ordered. I've never seen it that low before. I want something better than my Kodak Playsport for videoing in the Oregon rain.
post #442 of 637
please help guys. I bought a GW77 and a couple spare batteries.

I chose those batteries (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Lithium-Rechargeable-Battery-Digital/dp/B000BOLHH0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1356471153&sr=8-2&keywords=np-bg1) from Amazon because they looked original.

The thing is I received a generic battery!! WTF? The package is purple and there is no Sony brand on it. Its from a brand named "FLASHPOINT".

I came back to amazon to read the comments and I saw a lot of users complaining that they have received fake batteries!! What do I do? Does anyone knows this battery? Does it works well, like the original?
post #443 of 637
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Originally Posted by thedest View Post

please help guys. I bought a GW77 and a couple spare batteries.
I chose those batteries (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Lithium-Rechargeable-Battery-Digital/dp/B000BOLHH0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1356471153&sr=8-2&keywords=np-bg1) from Amazon because they looked original.
The thing is I received a generic battery!! WTF? The package is purple and there is no Sony brand on it. Its from a brand named "FLASHPOINT".
I came back to amazon to read the comments and I saw a lot of users complaining that they have received fake batteries!! What do I do? Does anyone knows this battery? Does it works well, like the original?

It is easy to send stuff back to Amazon and get a full refund, especially if you didn't get what you wanted. Log on, look up your order and print the return label. The vendor, "Alfatronics", will get the wrath of Amazon. If you got something that was not what you ordered, you probably don't even need to pay the return postage.

I bought a $30 flashlight from a vendor through Amazon. It was close, but not exactly the one advertised. I got a full refund and was told to keep the flashlight.

If you want the "real" one, buy the one that Amazon themselves stocks and sells. http://www.amazon.com/Sony-NP-FG1-Rechargeable-Lithium-Ion-Battery/dp/B00170MYIS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1356475394&sr=1-1&keywords=sony+g+battery

Note that the one Amazon sells is the NP-FG1, where the one you ordered is the NP-BG1. Check your book. There may be a difference.

Bill
Edited by bsprague - 12/25/12 at 2:50pm
post #444 of 637
I ordered this battery package with mine:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049XR5MK

I've had good experiences with Wasabi batteries from Blue Nook before so searched around for them when they didn't appear at first on Amazon. They were buried below the others. They get better reviews than other brands, usually even better than OEM.
post #445 of 637
post #446 of 637
Thread Starter 
micro; keeps it small. Usually microsd cards come with sd card holders, so they can be used in any device that takes sd cards.
post #447 of 637
Mark, is the Sandisk the card that you would recommend most? And, how many batteries do you have/take with you to use during a full day (in other words, how much video can you get from each battery)?

Thanks,
Mike
post #448 of 637
Thread Starter 
I have used Sandisk cards; class 10 ones have been on sale at BestBuy recently. They are also dustproof, waterproof and shockproof. I have never used more than two batteries for a full day's shooting. You do need more than one (the batteries are tiny). I also bought a charger, since at the end of the day I would have two batteries to charge (one in camera, one in the charger) to save time.
post #449 of 637
Thanks Mark.
post #450 of 637
Visited Hongkong and checked the local shops there. The price for PAL GW77 was between US$650 to US$750. Much more expensive than on Amazon for the 60p model. Shame.
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