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post #511 of 637
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Originally Posted by spyker1212 View Post

i use the pny class 10

note: don't remove the memory card when transferring video files to computer. cause if plug in memory card to gw77 wrong way. will give memory not found error.

The USB port on the camcorder is USB2. If you are doing large transfers and have a built in SD reader in your laptop or desktop computer, it will be much faster to take the microSD card out of the camcorder, place it in an SD adapter, and read it from the built in SD reader. Of course if you are simply using a USB2 SD reader attached to your computer, then there is no point removing the microSD card from your computer.

In a test on my MacBookProRetina, 2.85 GB of files were read from the GW77 using the USB cable in 4:11 (4 minutes and 11 seconds), while if I removed the microSD card and used the built in SD reader on the MBPr, it read the files in 1:00. Note that the the MBPr has USB3 ports, so the bottleneck is the USB2 interface on the GW77.

Recently I transferred about 48 GB from a 64 GB microSDXC card to my computer. It took about 17 minutes using the SD slot on the computer. If I had used the USB cable to the GW77, it would have taken well over an hour.
post #512 of 637
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Originally Posted by David Sholle View Post

The USB port on the camcorder is USB2. If you are doing large transfers and have a built in SD reader in your laptop or desktop computer, it will be much faster to take the microSD card out of the camcorder, place it in an SD adapter, and read it from the built in SD reader. Of course if you are simply using a USB2 SD reader attached to your computer, then there is no point removing the microSD card from your computer.

In a test on my MacBookProRetina, 2.85 GB of files were read from the GW77 using the USB cable in 4:11 (4 minutes and 11 seconds), while if I removed the microSD card and used the built in SD reader on the MBPr, it read the files in 1:00. Note that the the MBPr has USB3 ports, so the bottleneck is the USB2 interface on the GW77.

Recently I transferred about 48 GB from a 64 GB microSDXC card to my computer. It took about 17 minutes using the SD slot on the computer. If I had used the USB cable to the GW77, it would have taken well over an hour.


if you remove the memory card from gw77 and transfer video files to computer. the video files will just be 00001.. 00002, 00003.so you won't know when the video was shot... just like a panasonic.

but if you connect gw77 with usb to computer. and transfer video files to computer. all the data code will be retain. just make sure under menu, setup, the usb connect setting is set to auto, usb lun setting set to 'multi'. then gw77 automatically convert files to datacode instead of 00001.. video files will be 20130311043333.mts. it also create separate folder w different dates

note: above applies to windows pc. don't know if same for apple
Edited by spyker1212 - 3/11/13 at 4:59pm
post #513 of 637
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Originally Posted by spyker1212 View Post

if you remove the memory card from gw77 and transfer video files to computer. the video files will just be 00001.. 00002, 00003.so you won't know when the video was shot... just like a panasonic.

but if you connect gw77 with usb to computer. and transfer video files to computer. all the data code will be retain. just make sure under menu, setup, the usb connect setting is set to auto, usb lun setting set to 'multi'. then gw77 automatically convert files to datacode instead of 00001.. video files will be 20130311043333.mts. it also create separate folder w different dates

note: above applies to windows pc. don't know if same for apple

I don't use the feature for converting the filenames from 00001.mts to something like 20130311043333.mts. Perhaps that is part of the PMB or PlayMemoriesHome software, which I don't use. I don't feel that I am losing anything, as the copied files (no matter how I copy them) have the correct creation date and time (of when the video segment was captured) which can be used by the operating system, seen by me, and which every editing program uses. When I import into my editor, it can automatically group files by date, for example, if I want that.
post #514 of 637
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Originally Posted by David Sholle View Post

I don't use the feature for converting the filenames from 00001.mts to something like 20130311043333.mts. Perhaps that is part of the PMB or PlayMemoriesHome software, which I don't use. I don't feel that I am losing anything, as the copied files (no matter how I copy them) have the correct creation date and time (of when the video segment was captured) which can be used by the operating system, seen by me, and which every editing program uses. When I import into my editor, it can automatically group files by date, for example, if I want that.

the problem with 0001.mts 0002.mts is if you shot video 2days ago... 000.mts 0001. mts 0002.mts 0003.mts. 0004.mts. and shot video yesterday 0005.mts 0006.mts. and looked at your video today and did not like the 0002.mts video you shot 2days ago, and decide to use the comcorder to delete the 0002.mts video...

then you shot 3 video today and comcorder will fill is as 0002.mts 0007.mts 008.mts...

if you use card reader to trasfer then 0002.mts is not in right sequence.

above applies to windows pc. don't know if same w apple
Edited by spyker1212 - 3/12/13 at 4:04pm
post #515 of 637
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Originally Posted by spyker1212 View Post

the problem with 0001.mts 0002.mts is if you shot video 2days ago... 000.mts 0001. mts 0002.mts 0003.mts. 0004.mts. and shot video yesterday 0005.mts 0006.mts. and looked at your video today and did not like the 0002.mts video you shot 2days ago, and decide to use the comcorder to delete the 0002.mts video...

then you shot 3 video today and comcorder will fill is as 0002.mts 0007.mts 008.mts...

if you use card reader to trasfer then 0002.mts is not in right sequence.

above applies to windows pc. don't know if same w apple

For my workflow, it would be irrelevant. I use large memory cards and never delete a video clip in the camcorder. I might discard a clip later after import into my computer. Even if I did discard a clip in the camcorder, although the file names might not be ordered properly, the file creation date and time would be correct, and my editing program would use it properly if I wanted to sort events into folders by date and time.

Having said that, I could see for others, depending on their workflow, this could be a big issue.

Anyway, I'm glad that this forum exists so that people using the equipment can exchange ideas. I didn't know about the feature that would name the files by date and time.
post #516 of 637
Hello all.

Can anyone help on this please?

I've got a new GW55 but sometimes when I stop recording the footage seems to split away from the bottom inch of the video. Difficult to explain but i do some recording then press stop. I then copy it to my PC and play it back. Right at the end when the recording finishes, the bottom inch of the footage sort of cuts off from the rest of the video and moves to the right. For example, if I was filming the dog sat there it would be like his legs had been cut off and moved to the right. I've been trying to recreate this but it doesnt happen all the time and now I cant get it to do it.

Has anyone else experienced this and what could the problem be. Its easily edited but just ownderign why its doing it. I dont really want to have to send it back as it was the last one in stock and a good price.
post #517 of 637
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Originally Posted by GS1953 View Post

Hello all.

Can anyone help on this please?

I've got a new GW55 but sometimes when I stop recording the footage seems to split away from the bottom inch of the video. Difficult to explain but i do some recording then press stop. I then copy it to my PC and play it back. Right at the end when the recording finishes, the bottom inch of the footage sort of cuts off from the rest of the video and moves to the right. For example, if I was filming the dog sat there it would be like his legs had been cut off and moved to the right. I've been trying to recreate this but it doesnt happen all the time and now I cant get it to do it.

Has anyone else experienced this and what could the problem be. Its easily edited but just ownderign why its doing it. I dont really want to have to send it back as it was the last one in stock and a good price.

What if you play back the video in the GW55 itself, instead of copying it to your PC. Does the same problem happen on the GW55 display? If it does, then the problem is with your GW55. If not, then the problem is with your PC.
post #518 of 637
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Originally Posted by David Sholle View Post

What if you play back the video in the GW55 itself, instead of copying it to your PC. Does the same problem happen on the GW55 display? If it does, then the problem is with your GW55. If not, then the problem is with your PC.

I thought about this after I posted the question. I couldnt remember it doing it on the lcd, only the pc but will try again to replicate the issue and report back.

Afterthought : Will try copying the rogue file back to the memory card first but if it doesnt allow that then I guess i will need to recreate the problem.
post #519 of 637
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Originally Posted by GS1953 View Post

Afterthought : Will try copying the rogue file back to the memory card first but if it doesnt allow that then I guess i will need to recreate the problem.
Be careful how you do that. AVCHD folder structure is tricky and Sony has a set of tiny files that go with each master file. My experience with two other Sony cameras is that if you don't use the Sony supplied software, it is a one way street from camcorder to PC.
post #520 of 637
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Originally Posted by bsprague View Post

Be careful how you do that. AVCHD folder structure is tricky and Sony has a set of tiny files that go with each master file. My experience with two other Sony cameras is that if you don't use the Sony supplied software, it is a one way street from camcorder to PC.

Yeah I'm considering that could be na issue. Thats the reason I thought it may not allow it.

I wonder if the issue is I didnt copy the full folder structure from the cam to the pc, rather just the .mts files.

That wouldnt explain why some work fine and some dont though. Going to try tonight.

hopefully its something i've done wrong in my processing from cam to pc rather than a camera issue.

thankyou for your replies.
post #521 of 637
Looks like it was windows media player that doesn't like the raw .mts files I was producing from this cam. Managed to replicate it (didnt break up on the lcd but did in media player), ran it though Adobe Premier Pro, exported it and it plays fine.
post #522 of 637
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Originally Posted by GS1953 View Post

Looks like it was windows media player that doesn't like the raw .mts files I was producing from this cam. Managed to replicate it (didnt break up on the lcd but did in media player), ran it though Adobe Premier Pro, exported it and it plays fine.
WMP is junk. Use something else.
post #523 of 637
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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

WMP is junk. Use something else.

Like what?
post #524 of 637
Splash Lite is a favorite and it's a free download.
post #525 of 637
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Originally Posted by bsprague View Post

Splash Lite is a favorite and it's a free download.

Thankyou
post #526 of 637
Yep, Splash is great if you have a half-decent GPU. Useless on most netbooks with integrated video, though. Or you may try Media Player Classic, but for it you need proper drivers, correctly installed. Splash is just one app, no extra drivers needed.
post #527 of 637
Hi, me again.

Has anyone had any focussing issues with this cam? Sometimes it seems to take an age with the image blurred until it obtains the correct image. Certainly not instant like the other cams I have had.
post #528 of 637
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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

Yep, Splash is great if you have a half-decent GPU. Useless on most netbooks with integrated video, though. Or you may try Media Player Classic, but for it you need proper drivers, correctly installed. Splash is just one app, no extra drivers needed.

Thankyou.
post #529 of 637
to those who have this camcorder, is it still a worthwhile cam? In the face of newer small camcorders, like the LX7, how does the GW77 compare?

Thanks.
Mike
post #530 of 637
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Originally Posted by Railfan View Post

to those who have this camcorder, is it still a worthwhile cam? In the face of newer small camcorders, like the LX7, how does the GW77 compare?

Thanks.
Mike

Mike,

You are still shopping! Your question is really hard to answer unless you find someone that owns both. That will be few, but Markr is one. Perhaps you can email or private mail him. You could also find his samples of both cameras on YouTube and Vimeo.

Good luck!

Bill
post #531 of 637
Yes, still shopping; or will be in a bit. Had to spend my saved up money on unexpected things of higher importance. So much for emergency funds.

Mike
post #532 of 637
I've been looking into buying a camcorder for my DH for his bday. He loves to shoot video and still pictures outdoors and needs one that can take a beating without sacrificing video quality. This GW77 is very intriguing with it's specs especially the waterproof and dust proof capabilities. I was also looking at the Sony Action Cam AS15 but I cringe when I see the lens flaring. Can anyone tell me which one I should purchase other than the fact that the GW77 is a lot more expensive.
Thank you in advance!
post #533 of 637
Giving techno gifts to a DH or DW is always risky. That said, I would be very impressed if my DW got me a GW77. There are so many places like the beach, skiing, fishing, rainy days, etc that my camera gear stays home. The GW77 solves that.

Bill
post #534 of 637
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Originally Posted by scarlettmama View Post

. I was also looking at the Sony Action Cam AS15 but I cringe when I see the lens flaring. Can anyone tell me which one I should purchase other than the fact that the GW77 is a lot more expensive.
Thank you in advance!

i have both the sony gw77 and as15.... like my sony xr550... the sony as15 stays home 99% of the time.... i carry my sony gw77 everywhere i go...
this morning... was able video my 8year old play with his toys....didn't have to go to other room to grab my xr550...

i love my sony gw77....
post #535 of 637
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Originally Posted by bsprague View Post

Giving techno gifts to a DH or DW is always risky. That said, I would be very impressed if my DW got me a GW77. There are so many places like the beach, skiing, fishing, rainy days, etc that my camera gear stays home. The GW77 solves that.

Bill

Give me a shiny new gadget anytime of the day rather than flowers or jewelry!
Just ordered the GW77 yesterday. If he doesn't like it I'll use it.
post #536 of 637
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Originally Posted by scarlettmama View Post

..... If he doesn't like it I'll use it.
Atta girl!
post #537 of 637
After seeking advice on what camcorder to buy for family/vacation use (I already have a SLT-A99V for stills), I ended up on this thread. In Italy, Sony sells the HDR-GW55VE which seems to be the same camcorder but without internal memory. Do I stand correct with this assumption? Do you owners think it would nicely complement my A99 for my needs? Price is quite attractive at about 350€, too.
post #538 of 637
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Originally Posted by Emopunk View Post

After seeking advice on what camcorder to buy for family/vacation use (I already have a SLT-A99V for stills), I ended up on this thread. In Italy, Sony sells the HDR-GW55VE which seems to be the same camcorder but without internal memory. Do I stand correct with this assumption? Do you owners think it would nicely complement my A99 for my needs? Price is quite attractive at about 350€, too.
This thread is over 500 posts long. I've followed if from the beginning and rarely are there any negative remarks. There are many examples of video and photos taken in a wide variety of conditions that have been publicly posted for review. Some on Vimeo can be downloaded in their exact original format for your serious examination.

Based on what has been written here, I almost bought one and may still.

For an "all around" camcorder, this one is hard to beat. Besides taking good video, you don't have to be fussy about taking care of it. If you want videos and pictures of your family and their adventures this is the one to get. Most other cameras and camcorders will stay in the bag if the weather goes even a little bad.

BTW, I thoroughly enjoyed my first trip to Italy two years ago. It was a cruise ship trip, but the excursions into the towns were amazing. Rome is like no other city.

This year we will be doing a driving trip in parts of northern Italy. We will be overnighting in Lugano, Paesana and Roddino. I can't wait for the video and photo opportunities!

Bill
post #539 of 637
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Originally Posted by bsprague View Post

Atta girl!

Thanks for the reassurance on the purchase! Amazon is selling the camcorder for $599 with 12 month financing if anyone is interested. I purchased mine this past Friday on Best Buy for $699 before I found out about Amazon's price. frown.gif
We'll be using this camcorder on our Europe trip in this summer so I will post my review on it. My DH loves to do time lapse video of Mt. Rainier so now he can leave it out in the rain and not worry about any damage, I hope! wink.gif
post #540 of 637
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Originally Posted by scarlettmama View Post

.... My DH loves to do time lapse video of Mt. Rainier so now he can leave it out in the rain and not worry about any damage, I hope! wink.gif

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