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post #61 of 91
Felt the movie was ho humm even for what amounts to a summer action flick. Story had WAY too many simple holes in it and ending was anticlimactic and also seemed like a hole in and of itself...

The 3d was OK and indeed not gimmicky. I LOVED the slow more bathtub scene... sparkly overexposed shots are just a personal favorite...
post #62 of 91
Felt the movie was ho humm even for what amounts to a summer action flick. Story had WAY too many simple holes in it and ending was anticlimactic and also seemed like a hole in and of itself...

The 3d was OK and indeed not gimmicky. I LOVED the slow more bathtub scene... sparkly overexposed shots are just a personal favorite...
post #63 of 91
I look forward to seeing and hearing this movie. There is a DREDD sampler on the DTS demo disk from CES and the sound placement for NEO:X is amazing on the Demo. I don't have NEO:X but I do have 7.1 DTS Master audio in my HT and even here the NEO:X spreads throughout the room with fantastic clarity. doing a little mixdown from 11.1 to 7.1 on the wide sides and overhead speakers.
post #64 of 91
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Originally Posted by Don Landis View Post

I look forward to seeing and hearing this movie. There is a DREDD sampler on the DTS demo disk from CES and the sound placement for NEO:X is amazing on the Demo. I don't have NEO:X but I do have 7.1 DTS Master audio in my HT and even here the NEO:X spreads throughout the room with fantastic clarity. doing a little mixdown from 11.1 to 7.1 on the wide sides and overhead speakers.

It was a very good mix, but every aspect of the audio is outdone by other tracks out there. Better examples of surround, LFE, dynamics, etc.......Still a very good track, but not quite reference IMHO.
post #65 of 91
Does anyone else notice a bit of grain to some of the shots. This could be intentional.. But it's like they had two cameras a super Awsome one the just a meh one.
post #66 of 91
I found the 3D terrible in this movie, I also rented it from Redbox. It had no depth in most of the scenes and 0 pop.
post #67 of 91
Well, I've watched it twice now. Once in 3D and once in 2D. The 3D version is nothing special, and that assessment is generous.

I never really got a feel for space in it, and it wasn't convincing even looking down from the supposedly tremendous height. Like the slo-mo of Ma-Ma falling to her doom. Then again, the movie has a somewhat claustrophobic feel to it which isn't conducive to 3D perhaps. JMO

I don't really object to the violence; it is what it is, and that is a depiction of a dystopia. The movie is relentlessly grim.
post #68 of 91
The predator drone flying over the city, and the Dredd title font was the most notable 3D.
post #69 of 91
Anybody else have problems with playback of Dredd purchased from BB? The first disc didn't play at all on the Panasonic in the theater, but played on my Samsung in the bedroom. Returned it for another..and still the same...Panasonic can't read the disc and the Samsung plays it, but takes forever to load and doesn't start you at the menu, it asks if you want to resume and starts a couple of chapters in. To get to the menu and begining you have to decline the resume play.
post #70 of 91
There's a Dredd thread in the regular Blu-ray forum, and yes, there are a lot of complaints about discs from Best Buy. Appears to be an unusually large bad batch of discs that was used to fill BB's order.
post #71 of 91
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Originally Posted by jd371 View Post

Anybody else have problems with playback of Dredd purchased from BB? The first disc didn't play at all on the Panasonic in the theater, but played on my Samsung in the bedroom. Returned it for another..and still the same...Panasonic can't read the disc and the Samsung plays it, but takes forever to load and doesn't start you at the menu, it asks if you want to resume and starts a couple of chapters in. To get to the menu and begining you have to decline the resume play.

I had problems getting the 3d to work, but my disc came from Amazon. I finally did get it to work, but it took me quite a while to get it going on my Oppo 93. Never had this issue with a 3d disc before in the 2+ years I have had this player. It sounds like most of the people who are having playback issues though got the disc from BB.
post #72 of 91
I ordered mine from Amazon yesterday, so here's hoping.
post #73 of 91
I was able to watch this last night and enjoyed it. The 3D was pretty good, great depth and a few little popout moments.

However, the thing that annoyed me very bad was the horrible film grain. I am surprised no one even commented on this. Some scenes were crystal clear and looked amazing, such as the slow motion bath water scene. But other scenes had horrible grain which really made it look crappy. At times it was so bad it looked like I was watching an old VHS tape or streaming from the internet.

I understand they use film grain on purpose, but at times this movie had way to much. When I buy a Bluray I expect high quality clear picture, not this film grain crap all over that looks low quality.



Good movie, great 3D.. Crappy film grain scenes at times ruin it.
post #74 of 91
There were a couple of shots that appeared to have artifacts from the camera, if that's what you're referring to. It appeared as high levels of video noise, beyond just normal film grain. But since the effect only lasted for exactly one shot each time, it was clearly part of the source and not an artifact of the Blu-ray transfer. I can only clearly recall seeing it in two shots, maybe three. Total of maybe five or six seconds. Not exactly ruinous. That's a production problem, not a Blu-ray problem.

In regards to the 3D, I also noticed a few cases of discrepancies between the L/R images, in small ways. Like a reflection or specular highlight would be a little brighter in one eye than in the other, which gave an odd effect to some shots. Wasn't an issue most of the time, but it did keep cropping up. I'm going to guess this is either a time or budget issue, that they weren't able to scrub through every shot and balance them so that they matched lighting/shading perfectly. The only other native film I've watched so far has been Prometheus, which didn't have that problem, but also had a much higher budget and a longer post-production time to clean up the master.
post #75 of 91
Thread Starter 
Dredd 3D: Fail or Pass?

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"FAIL."

From the opening scene I knew that I was in for another crappy mixed quality movie. It was pretty clear from the brightness level mismatches between the left and right eye views, that about half of this film was shot in native 3D. The other 40% was converted with rotoscoping, and the other 10% looked like actual realtime conversion. Wow.

Of the native footage, 50% of it was misbalanced in terms of color, about 25% of it had ugly digital grain (called fixed pattern noise). About 90% of the footage, native or converted, was too subtle. 9% was just average.

That leaves 1% for good 3D. And that's rounding up.

I give the movie itself a 6/10, with positive marks for Karl Urban's badass performance.

The 3D gets just a 3/10.
post #76 of 91
I thought the 3D was quite good! I liked the slow mo stuff particularly but there was plenty of depth in many of the shots and there were only a few scenes where I felt it was a tadd shallow.
I can't say I had any particular issues with noise either. To be honest I didn't even notice it. 7-10 for me on both the 3D and the movie in general.
post #77 of 91
I really enjoyed Dredd. The story, art style, and action were awesome, and I found the whole dystopian universe very intriguing. I had never been introduced to that comic book before. I was sort of expecting inconsistent 3D, and that's what it delivered. The slo-mo 3D was fantastic, but here and there the 3D was too subtle and the conversion work was poorly done. I think the major story points got the best 3D, so I wasn't too disappointed. I agree with Cakefoo--the digital grain looked awful. Some of the brightness or color mismatches probably went over my head. Overall though, I had a lot of fun and am glad I bought it. Much better experience than all the Marvel/DC conversions.

Movie - 9/10
3D - 7.5/10
post #78 of 91
Got the rental in today and watched it but it just didn't seem right. Not much 3D depth. Turns out I had some mysterious flaw in my OPPO player that limited the 3D depth. I rebooted the player and watched it a second time and all is well. The 3D looked good all the way through. Plenty of scenes with both characters and objects filling the room as well as deep behind the screen content as well. If there was to be a complaint on this it would have to be the edge violations which were numerous but I normally don't care about these.

The story was OK for a new world future sci fi but the acting was a bit lame.

I watched it again at 10ft from my 110" screen and enjoyed the 3D quality even better.

I was disappointed in the DTS sound. It was supposed to be DTS 7.1 but I was only getting 5.1 from the OPPO. I wonder if anyone else saw this. The sound check in extra features was the only thing that decoded for 7.1.
post #79 of 91
Hu.... Interesting comments here.

I did a search on this movie because I was hoping I screwed something up last night. Tried to watch the movie in 3D, but ended up switching to 2D about twenty minutes into the movie. The 3D was downright unwatchable. It also took several attempts to get it to play in 3D. I bought it from Amazon. I am using a Sony VPL 95 projector, Lumagen XS, and an Oppo player (CIH 2.35 set up). Curt Palm RF glasses. From the beginning, I found myself constantly thinking the glasses were out of sync. I re-synced them several times, but that didn't make the image any better. I constantly switched glass polarity, but again, no difference. We finally gave up and watched it in 2D. In 2D, horrible film grain, but not consistently, just hit and miss. If it would have been constant, it would have been tolerable. Going from grain, to crisp to grain to crisp, and back and forth got to be irritating.

I did however enjoy the movie, which is why I am hoping I had something screwed up in my system set up. Or, possibly a bad disk??? I suspect it's neither of those.
post #80 of 91
I fail to see how the disc would cause what you're getting. The player is just sending the same frame-packed signal it always does, the content of the disc has no effect on that at all.. 3D is 3D. Sounds like there's something wrong with your setup somewhere.

Also, it would help when describing the "unwatchable" 3D to be a bit more specific about what makes it unwatchable. Are you seeing both eyes at the same time? L/R reversed? L/R out of sync? There's a lot that can happen to make something "unwatchable".
post #81 of 91
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Originally Posted by Don Landis View Post

Got the rental in today and watched it but it just didn't seem right. Not much 3D depth. Turns out I had some mysterious flaw in my OPPO player that limited the 3D depth. I rebooted the player and watched it a second time and all is well. The 3D looked good all the way through. Plenty of scenes with both characters and objects filling the room as well as deep behind the screen content as well. If there was to be a complaint on this it would have to be the edge violations which were numerous but I normally don't care about these.

The story was OK for a new world future sci fi but the acting was a bit lame.

I watched it again at 10ft from my 110" screen and enjoyed the 3D quality even better.

I was disappointed in the DTS sound. It was supposed to be DTS 7.1 but I was only getting 5.1 from the OPPO. I wonder if anyone else saw this. The sound check in extra features was the only thing that decoded for 7.1.

I bitstreamed out of my 93 and got 7.1. Excellent audio track I thought.
post #82 of 91
Thanks for the report. I wonder what we're doing differently. I use the Denon 4311ci and on the inbound bitstream it shows 5.1 and since I have it set up to pass through the output side is also 5.1. However, on other disks claimed to have 7.1 such as the DTS demo disk, the inbound side shows 7.1 and then output is also 7.1. For DREDD, the 5.1 is delivering the same audio to the left and rear surround speakers, same audio to the right and rear and right surround speakers.

Only during the extra features sound check for 7.1 do I get inbound rear left and right speakers on. That's why I suspect the disk, since the DTS demo seems to work as well as the sound check on the DREDD disk.

I will check one more thing which is the 2D option of the movie to see if that permits 7.1. I heard elsewhere that on some DTS7.1 disks the 7.1 was not active for 3D.
post #83 of 91
I wish I knew how to help you Don, but I dont know what the issue could be. I have watched the 3d version of Dredd two times now and both times got discrete 7.1 streamed from my Oppo 93 to my 885 Onkyo preamp.
post #84 of 91
I've been wanting to give this a watch for the last month. After reading all these comments I didnt wana drop the change on it with better stuff out there. Yesterday I had the spare cash in my pocket and broke down and bought it. I now know I'm not as picky as some of you guys, lol. I enjoyed the movie just fine, didnt even notice the grain. Thankfully my ps3 spit out the 7.1 MA no problem and the acting wasnt as bad as I expected.

Happy to have it in my collection.
post #85 of 91
Saw this in my local walmart for $12 bucks yesterday, that's a steal.
post #86 of 91
Hell, I couldn't find it locally at all, none of the stores carried it. Ended up ordering it online.
post #87 of 91
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Originally Posted by FARAD View Post

Saw this in my local walmart for $12 bucks yesterday, that's a steal.

Ditto! It's rare you find a better deal in a B&M rather than online now a days.
post #88 of 91
Loved this movie and the 3D. I've now watched it multiple times. Different strokes for different folks.
post #89 of 91
Ok so with the grain look in some shots, I have the 3d blu ray and noticed this grain as well. My roommate got the normal blu ray and no grain at all. I even watched my 3d in 2d still had grain. The movie is now on my movie channels. Watched the hd and no grain. Tried other friends 3d players on there TVs all had grain. It's in the 3d transfer 100%
post #90 of 91
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Originally Posted by OOJguitar View Post

Ok so with the grain look in some shots, I have the 3d blu ray and noticed this grain as well. My roommate got the normal blu ray and no grain at all. I even watched my 3d in 2d still had grain. The movie is now on my movie channels. Watched the hd and no grain. Tried other friends 3d players on there TVs all had grain. It's in the 3d transfer 100%

That's sad to hear. frown.gif

I thought it might have had something to do with the dark scenes I usually saw it in or maybe the camera that was used to film those particular shots.
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