Before you decide to jump, consider carefully what you're giving up to gain something new. For example, for their latest announced $3000 top model, Onkyo has ripped out all the analog multichannel inputs. Just plain removed them! Other than HDMI, they have fewer I/O's than any of the competitive models on the market, including the SC-68, 67 and the Denon 4311. IOW, reduced the cost while raising the selling price
Would you be happy with that? Those are some of the issues facing you besides audyssey vs mcacc in going to the newest Onkyo. And for that, all you gain with the new Onkyo over their current top model is NeoX & 4K pass-thru of which there is no real content and won't be for a long time.
IMHO, without any reviews yet, Onkyo's new flagship looks to be a step backwards compared to their current top model in some respects. Even the preview I read at Audioholics noted this aspect - less I/O's than current model and less than other companies are providing, including Pioneer & Denon. However, the upcoming Denon 4520 is an unknown, won't be announced until Sept time frame, so Denon may also be going down the same road.
Plus, you have the well-documented Onkyo lack of customer service and variety of reliability issues over the years. That is one thing you can say about Pioneer - overall they have been very stable, reliable gear, especially the 09.
You all know my posting history. I've been a Pio enthusiast for years but I also try very hard to retain objectivity and carefully compare models from the different mfgs. But that's just me. I won't argue about audyssey vs mcacc here since that topic has been covered a whole lot - we all know the issues.
IF I had to make a change from my SC-09 and do it this summer, I would go SC-68, Denon 4311 or Denon 4520.
And I hope you aren't swayed by the posts on weight
Class D amps will obviously weigh less than the class A/B amps.
My final thought in this post is - if you don't care about i-****, streaming, 3D etc. then what would be the compelling reason for thinking of changing: height/width channels, audyssey vs mcacc & sub EQ, getting PQLS equivalent on HDMI or ???
I'll pm you tomorrow AM with added thoughts from my own 1 year agonizing over this same thing....when to upgrade and to what! Believe me, I do relate to your "dilemma" & I've spent more time on this than any other aspect of my system, setup, or desire for a nice PJ setup. But it's getting time for me to hit the sack now Edited by ss9001 - 7/16/12 at 7:07pm