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Will you see THE DARK KNIGHT RISES at a 15/70 IMAX Theater?

Poll Results: Will you see THE DARK KNIGHT RISES at a 15/70 IMAX Theater?

 
  • 72% (13)
    Yes
  • 27% (5)
    No
18 Total Votes  
post #1 of 36
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Just curious how many will be going to see this movie in 15/70 IMAX. Unfortunately, I can't as there is no 15/70 IMAX remotely close to me. frown.gif

There is 60 minutes of 15/70 IMAX footage in the film

Here is a link showing IMAX theaters and the format they use - I do not know how accurate it is:

http://www.lfexaminer.com/theaUSA.htm
post #2 of 36
I'd sure like to. The true IMAX near me (Fresno, CA) was digital when I saw Mission Impossible 4 but it was definitely 15/70 before that. I just checked your link and it lists my IMAX as 1570+DIGI. Hmmmm.
post #3 of 36
Yep. Jordan's IMAX Theater in Natick, MA. IMAX in a furniture store.cool.gif

Seeing it on Sun.
post #4 of 36
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

Yep. Jordan's IMAX Theater in Natick, MA. IMAX in a furniture store.cool.gif
Seeing it on Sun.

Have you been there recently Dave? The last movie I saw there was Avatar, and it was a miserably dark and anemic sounding experience compared to other IMAX screenings of the movie I've seen elsewhere. I love the big screen and the butt kickers in the theater. This is the theater I prefer to watch movies in when I visit family in the area, and lately it has been one poor A/V experience after another at Jordan's.

Now that I am in the Bay Area, I have my tickets booked for Saturday morning in the excellent Loewe's Metreon in downtown San Francisco. I have been avoiding all discussions and trailers about TDKR since the past month, in breathless anticipation of this movie.
post #5 of 36
I just caught Amazing Spider-Man there and it was fine. (I saw Avatar there and had no complaints either)

I live right down the street so that's where I go to catch all my IMAX showings. Haven't had a complaint yet. Maybe if I went to another IMAX I would know the difference. Seems fine to me.

If you have a problem with the showing you should talk to them at the desk. I find they are very receptive.
post #6 of 36
Is 2D IMax even possible to see anymore?
post #7 of 36
What does 1570+DIG mean? Is that the real deal?
post #8 of 36
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Originally Posted by Kingcarcas View Post

Is 2D IMax even possible to see anymore?

Sure - depends on which movie is opening. As you can see from this schedule, there are a number of 2D IMAX movies set to open in the future. Just more 3D IMAX movies being made than 2D IMAX movies

http://www.bigmoviezone.com/attractions/
post #9 of 36
No doubt. Lincoln Square IMAX in NYC. Best in the world. Unfortunately, we waited too long to buy tickets and had to settle for Tuesday next week. Every show from Friday to Monday is now sold out.
post #10 of 36
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Originally Posted by Matt_Stevens View Post

No doubt. Lincoln Square IMAX in NYC. Best in the world. Unfortunately, we waited too long to buy tickets and had to settle for Tuesday next week. Every show from Friday to Monday is now sold out.
Are there butt-kickers under the seats?tongue.gifwink.gif

Seriously though, I've been to that theater years ago. It's a nice one.
post #11 of 36
Bought my tickets for the Reading MA Imax (same as Natick's) with said butt kickers for Next Sunday. I needed to space out the viewing from the Avengers and Amazing Spiderman movies I took my wife to. It's okay, I hit the geek reset button by taking her to see Ted.... Of course I had rewatched the first 2 Batmans over the last couple of weekends too.
post #12 of 36
will wait to what members say first. i've seen a couple negative things about dkr and will hold off for now.
post #13 of 36
How does RPX compare to IMAX? There is a local theater showing it in RPX...
post #14 of 36
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Originally Posted by drewTT View Post

How does RPX compare to IMAX? There is a local theater showing it in RPX...

RPX is the same as IMAX Digital - dual 2K projectors. Not the same as IMAX 15/70
post #15 of 36
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

Just curious how many will be going to see this movie in 15/70 IMAX. Unfortunately, I can't as there is no 15/70 IMAX remotely close to me. frown.gif
There is 60 minutes of 15/70 IMAX footage in the film
Here is a link showing IMAX theaters and the format they use - I do not know how accurate it is:
http://www.lfexaminer.com/theaUSA.htm

One reviewer claims the 15/70 IMAX footage totals 72 minutes.
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I saw “The Dark Knight Rises” in the IMAX Theater at Chicago’s Navy Pier, so my experience recounted here will be slightly different from that in regular movie theaters. Not by too much, I think. (Seventy-two minutes of the overly lengthy two-hour-45-minute running time were shot in IMAX format.)

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120717/entlife/707179685/
post #16 of 36
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Originally Posted by wizzack View Post

What does 1570+DIG mean? Is that the real deal?

The IMAX format is generically called "15/70" film, the name referring to the 15 sprocket holes per frame.
post #17 of 36
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/batman_movies/news/?a=26865


2:40 CTO of Kodak’s reaction to seeing The Dark Knight in IMAX, “best photographic experience he’s ever had in seeing a motion picture.”


8:53 Talks about the IMAX release of The Dark Knight and how he was able to use the OCN’s (original color negatives) for eleven of the prints that were screened in select theaters, and how those were the best projected versions of any film in history.


10:24 Says they will do the same OCN release for The Dark Knight Rises, talks about the financial burden of releasing The Dark Knight Rises in the very best quality possible, and the visible difference between the OCN prints and the others that were sent out.





Apparently Nolan ordered 11 prints struck from the OCN for TDN, which were projected in the Los Angeles area and plans to do the same for TDNR. According to the VP of IMAX, this is something that has not been done in many years for a commercial release feature and the image quality of these extremely expensive prints is simply unparalleled. People might want to keep that in mind, when looking for an IMAX theatre. This is probably the last time one may be able to see true Imax quality in all its glory, before the format goes fully into digital projection. I don't know whether the movie itself is worth the praise it gets, but respect is due to Nolan and Wally Pfister for their dedication to large format film and for pushing the envelope in their craft.
Edited by humax - 7/19/12 at 12:28pm
post #18 of 36
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Originally Posted by humax View Post

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/batman_movies/news/?a=26865
2:40 CTO of Kodak’s reaction to seeing The Dark Knight in IMAX, “best photographic experience he’s ever had in seeing a motion picture.”
8:53 Talks about the IMAX release of The Dark Knight and how he was able to use the OCN’s (original color negatives) for eleven of the prints that were screened in select theaters, and how those were the best projected versions of any film in history.
10:24 Says they will do the same OCN release for The Dark Knight Rises, talks about the financial burden of releasing The Dark Knight Rises in the very best quality possible, and the visible difference between the OCN prints and the others that were sent out.
Apparently Nolan ordered 11 prints struck from the OCN for TDN, which were projected in the Los Angeles area and plans to do the same for TDNR. According to the VP of IMAX, this is something that has not been done in many years for a commercial release feature and the image quality of these extremely expensive prints is simply unparalleled. People might want to keep that in mind, when looking for an IMAX theatre. This is probably the last time one may be able to see true Imax quality in all its glory, before the format goes fully in digital projection.

It is IMAX's intention to go to Laser projectors beginning 2013. With the advent of both Super Hi Vision (8K) and laser projection, there is a great possibility of surpassing IMAX 15/70 in both resolution and color fidelity.

Evans and Sutherland has been doing laser projection for quite some time - 4,000 x 4,000 resolution:

http://www.es.com/Products/Specialty/
post #19 of 36
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Originally Posted by fookoo_2010 View Post

The IMAX format is generically called "15/70" film, the name referring to the 15 sprocket holes per frame.

Thanks - the "DIG" part was throwing me off. I am good to go!
post #20 of 36
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

It is IMAX's intention to go to Laser projectors beginning 2013. With the advent of both Super Hi Vision (8K) and laser projection, there is a great possibility of surpassing IMAX 15/70 in both resolution and color fidelity.
Evans and Sutherland has been doing laser projection for quite some time - 4,000 x 4,000 resolution:
http://www.es.com/Products/Specialty/





I know about all this and laser projection sounds great, however watch this video from 0:50 to 2:55 about Imax theoretical resolution specs (yes, i understand actual resolution is less due to the mechanical nature of the medium and projector). This man claims a digital projector of 16X18k would be required to get true IMAX quality. Plus, proper film projection has a look, feel and warmth, which IMHO cannot be completely replicated by any digital medium yet.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JdRbEEXFYI&feature=plcp
post #21 of 36
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Originally Posted by wizzack View Post

Thanks - the "DIG" part was throwing me off. I am good to go!

When you looked at my link and saw a theater whose IMAX formats are 1570+DIG - all that means is they can show both 15/70 IMAX film and 2K Digital IMAX (usually 3D). They have an IMAX projector(s) and Christie digital projectors. Digital IMAX doesn't use a 1.44 aspect ratio. Approx. 1.90 AR.
post #22 of 36
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Originally Posted by humax View Post

I know about all this and laser projection sounds great, however watch this video from 0:50 to 2:55 about Imax theoretical resolution specs (yes, i understand actual resolution is less due to the mechanical nature of the medium and projector). This man claims a digital projector of 16X18k would be required to get true IMAX quality. Plus, proper film projection has a look, feel and warmth, which IMHO cannot be completely replicated by any digital medium yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JdRbEEXFYI&feature=plcp

And you can check this link out where the Sr. Vp of Technology for IMAX states that when the audience is viewing an IMAX print, they are seeing "no less than 4500 lines of vertical resolution."

http://www.tristanpipo.com/2005/03/18/last-update-was-sunday/

Replicating the look of film can be done digitally. It just requires more "powerful" digital cameras and storage devices as they have to shoot at 16bit color space and more experience using filters that soften the images to make them look like film.
post #23 of 36
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

When you looked at my link and saw a theater whose IMAX formats are 1570+DIG - all that means is they can show both 15/70 IMAX film and 2K Digital IMAX (usually 3D). They have an IMAX projector(s) and Christie digital projectors. Digital IMAX doesn't use a 1.44 aspect ratio. Approx. 1.90 AR.

Perfect - thanks for the details Lee.
post #24 of 36
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

And you can check this link out where the Sr. Vp of Technology for IMAX states that when the audience is viewing an IMAX print, they are seeing "no less than 4500 lines of vertical resolution."
http://www.tristanpipo.com/2005/03/18/last-update-was-sunday/


Yes, but the captured resolution is there in the first place. If we were to scan an IMAX negative in order to get full resolution, we would need at least a 12k scan and a similar resolution digital projector in order to get equivalent quality. Does something like that exists today? I don't think so. So, for now, film projection is still the best way to view IMAX originated content.




Replicating the look of film can be done digitally. It just requires more "powerful" digital cameras and storage devices as they have to shoot at 16bit color space and more experience using filters that soften the images to make them look like film.


I have seen a lot of proper film projection, before the digital intermediate days and I have seen quite a bit of digital projection. Some of the latter looked very good and film like, but not 100% like film. Plus, a film projector is a living, breathing, whining thing, which, with all its imperfections, adds the last touch to a classic film experience. Digital cinema projectors are just noiseless, perfect machines without any kind of personal identity. Nothing wrong with that, just different beasts. As for the look of film itself, if that is one's intented purpose, why go though all this trouble anyway? Just shoot film in the first place and get it over with. Yes, I know it's more expensive, but you will get 100% of what you are striving for, not just a very good replication of it. If Nolan thought that way, he would just use a Red Epic to get the job done and not bother with those troublesome, heavy, noisy, expensive Imax film cameras. Some may say he is just stubborn, old-fashioned and crazy, but I for one take my hat off to him for not choosing the easy way.
post #25 of 36
Just saw it on the IMAX screen at the Pacific Science Center in Seattle. It was every bit as amazing as I expected, and then some. It's going to be tough to go to any other theater now.
post #26 of 36
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post #27 of 36
Seen it early Friday morning, 12:01am showing at my local digital IMAX screen. Sound was excellent but it was hard to notice the IMAX scenes due to smaller screen. Going next week to see it in 70mm.
post #28 of 36
Yep. Tomorrow, Montreal's Scotia Bank IMAX...
post #29 of 36
Yes, got back a few hours ago from the Cinemark in Dallas at Webb Chapel. Stunning.

Got there 90 minutes before showtime, and I was 115th in line.
post #30 of 36
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Originally Posted by Rakesh.S View Post

Yes, got back a few hours ago from the Cinemark in Dallas at Webb Chapel. Stunning.
Got there 90 minutes before showtime, and I was 115th in line.


Seeing it tomorrow morning. Hopefully the Monday morning crowd is relatively small.


It seems like the demand on 15/70 IMAX theaters is much less than compared to TDKs from what I can tell due to the all the digital IMAX theaters that popped up since 2008. For example all of the 7pm 15/70 IMAX shows for TDK were sold out in a week advance for a couple weeks back in 2008. Now just Monday's 7pm show is soldout. I could still get tuesday If I wanted. But in 2008 the entire week would have been sold out.
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