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Poll Results: Which date works for you? Please vote only once.

Poll expired: Aug 3, 2012  
  • 33% (5)
    Saturday, September 15th
  • 20% (3)
    Saturday, October 13th
  • 46% (7)
    Saturday, October 20th
15 Total Votes  
post #121 of 605
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Oh - Forgot to mention that I picked up a pair of Epik Empires locally yesterday to play with. So far I've just ran Audyssey with them (my first experience with it) and first impressions are that the SQ is very impressive with these! Just one more pair for us to listen to. smile.gif
post #122 of 605
Ill be there, 99% sure. Just got back from vacation and have a few things going on but we should hook up before the GTG. I should really get my system in top working condition, no excuse to have all that stuff and not even be able to really use it.

I need to hear back from Jeff about options for my Captivators. I will upgrade both so the drivers match,etc. I would really like to take my system to the next level but need to get it working properly first.
post #123 of 605
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Originally Posted by SeaNile View Post

Ill be there, 99% sure. Just got back from vacation and have a few things going on but we should hook up before the GTG. I should really get my system in top working condition, no excuse to have all that stuff and not even be able to really use it.
I need to hear back from Jeff about options for my Captivators. I will upgrade both so the drivers match,etc. I would really like to take my system to the next level but need to get it working properly first.

I'm sure you will get it sorted out. Agreed there is no viable excuse to not be using that nice gear. biggrin.gif
post #124 of 605
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

Dude, events like this don't come around all that often. The way I see it you're left with little choice!
Heck, with any more subs we may have to turn this into a 1.5 or 2 day event! biggrin.gif

This is a great opportunity to listen to all the different heavy hitting subs and I really want to come. We leave for Germany on the 23rd, so it'll work, but it'll be tight. I think at this point I'm 60% in 40% out. Kinda depends on what the travel budget looks like then. If I do come I've got two Pork Shoulders in the freezer; I'll make pulled pork BBQ for easy sandwiches n such. Anyone in Hampton roads, Richmond, NoVa, etc interested in splitting gas?

Are you sure you are going to have enough room for all these folks and enormous subs? And are even noobs like me invited?
post #125 of 605
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

Heck, with any more subs we may have to turn this into a 1.5 or 2 day event! biggrin.gif

At this point I might have to bring a tent and sleeping bag... tongue.gif
post #126 of 605
If it does turn into a 2 day thing, I might get to test how comfy the seats in my new car are.....

update on my sub: the HSU ULS-15 is in the mail and I have the tracking info.....

I will be bringing my setup to be listened to:
2x KRK 10-3 Powered Monitors (3-way individually amped)
1x HSU ULS-15 Powered Subwoofer (15 in sealed box)
1x Onkyo TX-NR809 Receiver
1x Dell L521x Laptop with lots of music in FLAC, as well as a few cd's......


Definitely we should get our listening cd setup before the event, have everyone get a copy of it and listen in their home setup environment to get a good idea of what it should sound like.....

I could take care of that, if everyone is able to send me 30-45 second clips in lossless format of some kind, let me know if you want me to do that.....
post #127 of 605
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Originally Posted by dstew100 View Post

This is a great opportunity to listen to all the different heavy hitting subs and I really want to come. We leave for Germany on the 23rd, so it'll work, but it'll be tight. I think at this point I'm 60% in 40% out. Kinda depends on what the travel budget looks like then. If I do come I've got two Pork Shoulders in the freezer; I'll make pulled pork BBQ for easy sandwiches n such. Anyone in Hampton roads, Richmond, NoVa, etc interested in splitting gas?
Are you sure you are going to have enough room for all these folks and enormous subs? And are even noobs like me invited?

Pulled pork sounds great! These events are actually the best for the complete noobs since there will be so much new/unheard before. We've got plenty of room for the subs/people on the list now.

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Originally Posted by rush2049 View Post

If it does turn into a 2 day thing, I might get to test how comfy the seats in my new car are.....
update on my sub: the HSU ULS-15 is in the mail and I have the tracking info.....
I will be bringing my setup to be listened to:
2x KRK 10-3 Powered Monitors (3-way individually amped)
1x HSU ULS-15 Powered Subwoofer (15 in sealed box)
1x Onkyo TX-NR809 Receiver
1x Dell L521x Laptop with lots of music in FLAC, as well as a few cd's......
Definitely we should get our listening cd setup before the event, have everyone get a copy of it and listen in their home setup environment to get a good idea of what it should sound like.....
I could take care of that, if everyone is able to send me 30-45 second clips in lossless format of some kind, let me know if you want me to do that.....

Congrats on the new sub! If you could pull off the listening CD beforehand that would be spectacular.

Those KRK's seem interesting - have not heard those before either. I do have a couple of receivers here though if you want to leave yours at home.
post #128 of 605
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All - I've also updated the attendee list and marked those with a "possible" attendance with a "?". Please let me know as soon as possible if you would like to switch your status from the list so that we can plan accordingly. If it comes down to it, i'm thinking we will probably have to cap the list at some point - maybe around 25 confirmed attendees? If I've missed anyone somehow, please let me know.

ALSO
- If you haven't already, please provide me with your name, what you would like to bring, and where you are coming from. This will allow some to carpool and/or find transportation to the event. I will update the first post with this information so that it's visible to all.
post #129 of 605
post #130 of 605
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Originally Posted by Archaea View Post

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1417555/2-a7s-650-subs/0_20
day 2?

You want to take a trip to OCMD? biggrin.gif
post #131 of 605
Wow, that list became really long. Is there an order of testing for the subs? Which one goes first and so on?
Now, not counting dual subs I count 13-14 subs. That is a lot of subs to listen to. Should be a fun day though.
post #132 of 605
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

Wow, that list became really long. Is there an order of testing for the subs? Which one goes first and so on?
Now, not counting dual subs I count 13-14 subs. That is a lot of subs to listen to. Should be a fun day though.

As with any event, I'm not expecting 100% confirmation from the whole group so I'd imagine the final list will be a little shorter come October time frame. Not everyone in the list has confirmed 100% that they can attend.

Another idea if the list becomes unmanageable in a day - We could move some of the smaller/music oriented subs upstairs and have a separate demo area for them. This approach would allow for the attendees to focus their time on specific sub(s) they are interested in.

As for an order, once we finalize the list (late September/early October), I'd suggest we start from the lower priced setups and move toward the Submersives/Caps of the group later in the day. I'd also like to keep all the singles first, then move to the dual sub setups.

The way the list stands now, I'd suggest something like the following:

Rythmik E15
Outlaw LFM-1 EX
Tannoy Sub 15
Hsu ULS-15
Rythmik FV15HP
Cap 1000
Epik Empires X 2
VTF-15 x 2 (hopefully)
XV15 x 2
XV30 x 2 (hopefully)
Passive Cap x 2
SubM HP / F2 x 2?

Thoughts?
Edited by Gorilla83 - 8/22/12 at 7:50am
post #133 of 605
I think that sounds reasonable. So, I think a 9:30am start time was suggested? I wonder how long it will take to get through all of those subs. I know it's been mentioned that there may be a demo disk but about how many clips per sub are we looking at? Is that demo disk still going to be the primary source of material? So if we go with a 30 min demo of each sub(single) that would equal 6 hours. Not counting the setup and break down time. Or counting lunch. So if it is a well run machine(we can hope) I guess it's possible to do a 9:30 or 10:00 start and be done by 3:30 or later. But figure in "padding" time for the "who knows what will happen column" and we may be done by 5 or 6. Either way it will be a nice day.
post #134 of 605
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

I think that sounds reasonable. So, I think a 9:30am start time was suggested? I wonder how long it will take to get through all of those subs. I know it's been mentioned that there may be a demo disk but about how many clips per sub are we looking at? Is that demo disk still going to be the primary source of material? So if we go with a 30 min demo of each sub(single) that would equal 6 hours. Not counting the setup and break down time. Or counting lunch. So if it is a well run machine(we can hope) I guess it's possible to do a 9:30 or 10:00 start and be done by 3:30 or later. But figure in "padding" time for the "who knows what will happen column" and we may be done by 5 or 6. Either way it will be a nice day.

Realistically, we will likely need 30 minutes or so to demo and another 15-20 minutes to set up assuming we're not doing any EQ. With this volume of subs and material we will likely have to keep the setup very simple. We will definitely need to start by 9:30 if want a chance of squeezing them in during one day. biggrin.gif

We could certainly use some advise and lessons learned from Archaea - where are ya buddy? biggrin.gif He's run and been to a few of these so far and I'm sure can share his experience.
post #135 of 605
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

Realistically, we will likely need 30 minutes or so to demo and another 15-20 minutes to set up assuming we're not doing any EQ. With this volume of subs and material we will likely have to keep the setup very simple. We will definitely need to start by 9:30 if want a chance of squeezing them in during one day. biggrin.gif
We could certainly use some advise and lessons learned from Archaea - where are ya buddy? biggrin.gif He's run and been to a few of these so far and I'm sure can share his experience.
I agree. I think that we should not worry about the EQ and just use the crossover settings and level settings to try and make this a fair playing field for all the subs.
post #136 of 605
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

The way the list stands now, I'd suggest something like the following:

Rythmik E15
Outlaw LFM-1 EX
Tannoy Sub 15
Hsu ULS-15
Rythmik FV15HP
Cap 1000
Epik Empires X 2
VTF-15 x 2 (hopefully)
XV15 x 2
XV30 x 2 (hopefully)
Passive Cap x 2
SubM HP / F2 x 2?

The only thing I would change is swap the Tannoy for the E15. I'd really like to hear the Rythmik, but I'm not sure I can make it their at the very beginning.

 
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

So, I think a 9:30am start time was suggested?

I vote for a 10am start time, it at all possible. My company has offices in Exton and Westchester -- both of which I've been to several times -- so I know the general area. It takes me 2 hours to drive their from my house, and judging by the map my guess is it's going to be another 20 minutes beyond that for me.
post #137 of 605
I am probably about an hour away(according to mapquest) so a half an hour start time either way really does not affect me that much. I know there are people that are 2+ hours away so for them, the start time is more critical.
post #138 of 605
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

I think that sounds reasonable. So, I think a 9:30am start time was suggested? I wonder how long it will take to get through all of those subs. I know it's been mentioned that there may be a demo disk but about how many clips per sub are we looking at? Is that demo disk still going to be the primary source of material? So if we go with a 30 min demo of each sub(single) that would equal 6 hours. Not counting the setup and break down time. Or counting lunch. So if it is a well run machine(we can hope) I guess it's possible to do a 9:30 or 10:00 start and be done by 3:30 or later. But figure in "padding" time for the "who knows what will happen column" and we may be done by 5 or 6. Either way it will be a nice day.

not a chance this thing ends at 3:30pm


or even by 5 or 6pm

tongue.gif



I'll bet you end at 1 or 2am if you try any kind of EQ and still late night, well beyond dinner --- even if you don't do any EQ.

I'd have each of the attendees submit 1 clip of their choice to gorilla83 for music - 20 or 30 seconds long (no exceptions), and one clip suggestion for movies.

The meet becomes more fun if it's a bit personalized for the attendees.

Have a standardized playlist. Keep the clips very short. If they are too long your eyes will roll in boredom after a short time. 2 minute movie clips are WAY TOO long. 1 minute song clips are WAY TOO long. Publish everything in advance and have everything ready to go that morning. Start on time - late comers come as they can and don't hold up the event for somebody stuck in traffic or at the airport. Establish that now.

Get your subwoofer line up on paper. Are you going to do scorecards?

Pizza or something simple works best for a meal break.

more to come... wink.gif
Edited by Archaea - 8/22/12 at 10:55am
post #139 of 605
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

The only thing I would change is swap the Tannoy for the E15. I'd really like to hear the Rythmik, but I'm not sure I can make it their at the very beginning.
 
I vote for a 10am start time, it at all possible. My company has offices in Exton and Westchester -- both of which I've been to several times -- so I know the general area. It takes me 2 hours to drive their from my house, and judging by the map my guess is it's going to be another 20 minutes beyond that for me.

NP with the sub swap, I don't think there will be any objections.

Funny enough I work in Exton and live about 10 minutes from West Chester. Which company do you work for? tongue.gif You're probably just at 2 hours away to my place.

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Originally Posted by Archaea View Post

not a chance this thing ends at 3:30pm
or even by 5 or 6pm
tongue.gif
I'll bet you end at 1 or 2am if you try any kind of EQ and still late night, well beyond dinner --- even if you don't do any EQ.
I'd have each of the attendees submit 1 clip of their choice to gorilla83 for music - 20 or 30 seconds long (no exceptions), and one clip suggestion for movies.
The meet becomes more fun if it's a bit personalized for the attendees.
Have a standardized playlist. Keep the clips very short. If they are too long your eyes will roll in boredom after a short time. 2 minute movie clips are WAY TOO long. 1 minute song clips are WAY TOO long. Publish everything in advance and have everything ready to go that morning. Start on time - late comers come as they can and don't hold up the event for somebody stuck in traffic or at the airport. Establish that now.
Get your subwoofer line up on paper. Are you going to do scorecards?
Pizza or something simple works best for a meal break.
more to come... wink.gif

Alright, so we've got our work cut out for us, even without EQ. I was thinking we'd go well past dinner time (7-8 o'clock) without doing any EQ. We will have a hard start at 9:30 or so if we want to have a chance of finishing.

Yes to the scorecards for sure.

Another member has volunteered to collect music clips - I agree they should be limited to 20-30 seconds each, but we need to start working on that list now.

Thanks! Keep the suggestions coming!
post #140 of 605
OK, here are just a few quick movie clips off the top of my head
TRON - transported to the grid/part of the light cycle race
WOTW- street rumble to emergence of pods
HTTYD - Big dragon breaks through the mountain
Star Trek- Warp Jump. Space jump, Vulcan implodes
TDK firing that gun, big chase scene
Live Free or Die Hard Apt shoot out, "send the gas"

Just a few to get the creative juices flowing. I don't know what anybody else was thinking about.
post #141 of 605
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

Another member has volunteered to collect music clips - I agree they should be limited to 20-30 seconds each, but we need to start working on that list now.

To be honest, 20-30 seconds doesn't seem sufficient to capture the gist of any particular scene. I'll go along with whatever the consensus is, but to me it seems like you'd need at least a minute or two in order to make a accurate pronouncement.

Another scene to consider; Underworld Awakening, scene 10. The foot stomps of that beast are simply brutal.
post #142 of 605
Pulse has an absolutely phenominal bass wave clip as one of the actresses goes into a IT shop sever room. It'll put a sub into distress. It brought a procella 18" 8-10k subwoofer system to its knees. But it sounds most impressive. Andrew, make sure you have a HPF in place on the captivator pair for that pulse scene if you use it. wink.gif

20-30 seconds is for music clips. Movie clips should shoot for about 1 minute in my experience. It works pretty well. Here are a couple examples of the music clip lists we used in 2011 and 2012 at KC meets.

2012 - http://kiwi6.com/file/vo80ks3b34
2011 - http://kiwi6.com/file/28ub13rh6w

The source above was recompressed - not ideal for sound quality - but required to get it on that hosting site. I used the original mp3s at my meet.

I'd try to use one subwoofer frequency sweep as a clip -- that says a lot right about a contestant right there.

Music at 10 minutes would probably be ideal.

I used freeware called MPTrim to cut up MP3s because it doesn't alter the original file compression or sound quality - it simply picks start stop points and cuts off the extra.

As for movie clips: Obviously have them all queued on a playlist that is simply a push play and walk away. No way you want to be exchanging disks. In the 2011 meet we just used a scubasteve disc, but in reality many of his clips are too long for this type of meet. There are several people on this forum with short demo movie clips in mkv or m2ts format. I have a lot, Pennynike1 has a lot, DesertDome has a lot to name a few --- then of course there are the ScubaSteve and SuperLeo demo disks. Use DVDFab and TSMuxor to make your own blue ray clips. I can walk you through the process.


Keep in mind that you will be watching these clips 1x for every entry. if they are too long it'll be a snooze fest quickly. In 2011 we had 8 subs. We had one song that was a minute long. We all heard what we needed in 15 seconds on that clip and by the end it was like ughh - this song again. Same with movie clips. 2 minutes of Master and Commander, or 4 minutes of the War of the Worlds scene makes you want to scream after a long day. Fast paced keeps people's attention and keeps the material fresh and anticipated.



I can tell you some things NOT to do from bobbled experiences.
1) don't use disks - HTPC is best.
2) don't let people think they will edit or submit the clips the day of. Have your material, HTPC ect setup in advance and absolutely all kinks worked out

Things TO do
1) Draft up a scoresheet in advance
2) Determine in advance how you will run the seating arrangements (do you swap places? do you keep the same places? do you raffle sweet spots?
3) Collect money from people at entrance to pay for food/drinks. Walk up to people and request it or you won't get it (if that matters) ATTENDEES BRING CASH if Andrew requests some sort of re-imbursement for food/drinks.
4) have a couple remotes possibly. A universal to hand to people for volume control (if you decide not to use a static volume), and the actual device remote to quickly make AVR setting changes as necessary.
5) determine if balanced fair meet with EQ is your goal, or if fun informal listening and random volumes based on sub capability is your goal.


For what it's worth we had fun at the 2011 meet letting each owner man the volume control on his own subs. That was fantastic memories to be sure. People only took their subs as far as they felt they could -- others said screw it and took it too far (chirpie I'm looking at both you and --- ha me.) -- much to the shagrin of the group. It's fun egging people on, or saying ouch hold up man...etc. It's more informal goofing off that way -- keeps it fun and different with each audition. In my opinion those random volume control meets have been the most fun of the six meets I've been to.



All of these are just suggestions - since you asked. ha. I don't care how you do it. These are simply ideas that I've found worked for our meets in the past.
Edited by Archaea - 8/22/12 at 4:36pm
post #143 of 605
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Originally Posted by Gorilla83 View Post

You want to take a trip to OCMD? biggrin.gif

Only 35 miles from me!
post #144 of 605
As I nominated myself for collecting/creating the demo disk, I am completely ready for the task.

As far as audio clips are concerned I would like people to submit them in FLAC, WMA Lossless, or AAC Lossless, if possible (WAV as a backup)! I have professional music software to use (FL Studio) and will create a single CD with all the clips and put them on CD to use.... keeping lossless quality throughout.

As far as extracting movie clips, I have experience encoding to various formats and I own Adobe Premier Pro, so I am setup to do this as well.


We need to get either a list of what we are going to use for movie content, I will try to acquire the movies if possible and rip them from blurray (or highest quality format i can get), BUT:

If anyone makes an odd or rare choice (say a record of some type, or something they have on film) I will need you to get that to me in a digital format as I can't reasonably spend weeks looking for rare content to compile...... This goes for both hard to find/get audio and video.


PM me here on the forums with a link to your audio clip, or email me at (ben dot raush a t gmail dot com , I hate spammers) as an attachment.

I will compile a list of who submitted what and if it gets too lengthy we can vote on what will be left out.

Around 30 min of content is where I want to aim for. So if that is 15-20 min of music and 10 min of movie clips I am fine with that.




I have a brand new laptop that can do 24 bit 192khz audio out over HDMI, gorilla83 can your denon input this? I am ready and willing to use it as the source material playing device. It also has a blu-ray player built in if we need that apart from the clips I will compile. (If say we want to watch a movie on the best setup at the end of the day)
post #145 of 605
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Originally Posted by rush2049 View Post

As I nominated myself for collecting/creating the demo disk, I am completely ready for the task.
As far as audio clips are concerned I would like people to submit them in FLAC, WMA Lossless, or AAC Lossless, if possible (WAV as a backup)! I have professional music software to use (FL Studio) and will create a single CD with all the clips and put them on CD to use.... keeping lossless quality throughout.
As far as extracting movie clips, I have experience encoding to various formats and I own Adobe Premier Pro, so I am setup to do this as well.
We need to get either a list of what we are going to use for movie content, I will try to acquire the movies if possible and rip them from blurray (or highest quality format i can get), BUT:
If anyone makes an odd or rare choice (say a record of some type, or something they have on film) I will need you to get that to me in a digital format as I can't reasonably spend weeks looking for rare content to compile...... This goes for both hard to find/get audio and video.
PM me here on the forums with a link to your audio clip, or email me at (ben dot raush a t gmail dot com , I hate spammers) as an attachment.
I will compile a list of who submitted what and if it gets too lengthy we can vote on what will be left out.
Around 30 min of content is where I want to aim for. So if that is 15-20 min of music and 10 min of movie clips I am fine with that.
I have a brand new laptop that can do 24 bit 192khz audio out over HDMI, gorilla83 can your denon input this? I am ready and willing to use it as the source material playing device. It also has a blu-ray player built in if we need that apart from the clips I will compile. (If say we want to watch a movie on the best setup at the end of the day)

You won't have much success with Premier. There are no consumer level products that can keep the HD audio (DTS HD MA, TrueHD). You'll need something along the lines of DoStudio or EasyBD in order to keep the audio intact.
post #146 of 605
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Originally Posted by rush2049 View Post

As I nominated myself for collecting/creating the demo disk, I am completely ready for the task.
As far as audio clips are concerned I would like people to submit them in FLAC, WMA Lossless, or AAC Lossless, if possible (WAV as a backup)! I have professional music software to use (FL Studio) and will create a single CD with all the clips and put them on CD to use.... keeping lossless quality throughout.
As far as extracting movie clips, I have experience encoding to various formats and I own Adobe Premier Pro, so I am setup to do this as well.
We need to get either a list of what we are going to use for movie content, I will try to acquire the movies if possible and rip them from blurray (or highest quality format i can get), BUT:
If anyone makes an odd or rare choice (say a record of some type, or something they have on film) I will need you to get that to me in a digital format as I can't reasonably spend weeks looking for rare content to compile...... This goes for both hard to find/get audio and video.
PM me here on the forums with a link to your audio clip, or email me at (ben dot raush a t gmail dot com , I hate spammers) as an attachment.
I will compile a list of who submitted what and if it gets too lengthy we can vote on what will be left out.
Around 30 min of content is where I want to aim for. So if that is 15-20 min of music and 10 min of movie clips I am fine with that.
I have a brand new laptop that can do 24 bit 192khz audio out over HDMI, gorilla83 can your denon input this? I am ready and willing to use it as the source material playing device. It also has a blu-ray player built in if we need that apart from the clips I will compile. (If say we want to watch a movie on the best setup at the end of the day)
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Ben - Thank you very much for getting this together. Due to the size of the FLAC files, do you have a suggested source to members to store them online? We should probably follow Jonathan's (archaea) advise above and limit each sound clip to 30 seconds or so. I agree after listening to each 10-12X (minimum!) they could get boring quickly if we leave them too long. biggrin.gif What kind of music collection do you have in this format at home?

I will dig up some clips over the next week or so and send them over to you. I will ask others who are interested in hearing their own music choices to do the same.

As for video clips - I do own a copy of the Scubasteve Demo disc which has most of the popular and current LFE scenes. From Archaea's comments it seems we need to cut these down to a manageable size. Ben/Rush - Do you have a means to edit these? I could send you my disc.

As for my receiver - This is straight from the manual:

Dolby TrueHD - supports 8 channels at 24 bit/96khz or 6 channels at 24 bit/192khz. I would think this would mean we're good as long as we use the HDMI input?
Edited by Gorilla83 - 8/23/12 at 7:13am
post #147 of 605
Hmm so it seems DTS-HD MA isn't support until CS6, I will use something else..... it shouldn't be a problem I will get it sorted out.....

I can get the audio/video onto my hard disk preserved in an mkv container format. I can just construct a playlist with all the right clips.... don't worry I know what i am doing, professional software engineer / tinkerer.....


Yup should be good, if we run into problems I will be bringing my receiver along as well and I know it can handle it.



Here is a question for everyone attending: do we want to listen in surround sound or down-mixed to stereo+LFE for movie clips? I prefer stereo to surround sound myself both for movies and music....
post #148 of 605
rush2049,
I think tsmuxor retains original audio format - including DTS-MA and DD HD. It is freeware. It won't compile the clips into a completed disk, but it will make individual clips that can be easily played through a video player like VLC, or CyberLink PowerDVD 10 or newer.

I wouldn't get hung up on flac or lossless. I'd be willing to wager a paycheck that most, if not all of the guys in that room couldn't tell the difference between a flac file and a 256bit (or maybe even a 192bit) encoded mp3. There are those that swear by flac, I'm not one of them. wink.gif

http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/sounds-good-to-me
Edited by Archaea - 8/23/12 at 7:35am
post #149 of 605
I can hear the difference, but I know lots of people that cannot.
I figure why throw out data when you don't have to.....


But if someone wants to submit a clip and it is mp3 or whatever, I will work with it.....

I do not have a dedicated web host to put files in, but use any free temporary file host and give me the link (an entire flac track is ~50 MB).

Just send me the entire song if it is too hard for you to get just a clip and tell me what times the clip you want is between. (example: 5:03 to 5:32)
post #150 of 605
Ive just noticed this, as its actually on the same side of the US that i live on ive been thinking about attending. Granted i dont have equpiment in the same league of some of the stuff listed. all i could really bring down would be an Epik Legend.

I also have quite an extensive selection of music i could rip to flac and bring along http://rootminus1.com/admin/rand/misic.jpg
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