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post #781 of 888
1/12/13 at 1:26am
I'm routing X3D HDMI output via Oppo BDP-103 as I don't have 3D compatible receiver.
I changed X3D audio output to HDMI LPCM Multich as oppo only accepts LPCM on its HDMI inputs.

But I'm only getting 2ch output from X3D for all types of files mkv, dvd iso, bd iso and 3D iso.

I tested Oppo BDP-103 with other input source and it correctly accepts LPCM signal.

I've experimented with all audio options (HDMI, Force AAC decode, Surround sound) but nothing send multich output.frown.gif

What settings do i need to get multich LPCM output from X3D?
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post #782 of 888
1/12/13 at 1:54am
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Originally Posted by malikarshad View Post

I'm routing X3D HDMI output via Oppo BDP-103 as I don't have 3D compatible receiver.
I changed X3D audio output to HDMI LPCM Multich as oppo only accepts LPCM on its HDMI inputs.

But I'm only getting 2ch output from X3D for all types of files mkv, dvd iso, bd iso and 3D iso.

I tested Oppo BDP-103 with other input source and it correctly accepts LPCM signal.

I've experimented with all audio options (HDMI, Force AAC decode, Surround sound) but nothing send multich output.frown.gif

What settings do i need to get multich LPCM output from X3D?

That is the expected behavior. When you set the HDMI output for multi channel it will only send out 2ch audio (unless the original source is multi ch PCM, in which it will send out as is). Unfortunately most players are doing this now, I assume to avoid licensing costs?
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post #783 of 888
1/12/13 at 5:58am
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

That is the expected behavior. When you set the HDMI output for multi channel it will only send out 2ch audio (unless the original source is multi ch PCM, in which it will send out as is). Unfortunately most players are doing this now, I assume to avoid licensing costs?
This means when I have BD Iso/mkv with DTS-HD X3d won't decode it to LPCM multi ch and would downscale to 2ch. So why is there is an audio option for LCPM mutich and Downmix 2ch. I would assume if your source is Multich PCM it should work with HDMI Pass throu/Auto as well.
I don't see any need for LPCM multi ch option?
I need to understand. Can u please elaborate?
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post #784 of 888
1/12/13 at 6:07am
AFAIK none of the current streamers decode Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD, the Dunes with older firmware may. As to why the options are there I would guess for regular Dolby and DTS which I believe are decoded.
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post #785 of 888
1/12/13 at 6:22am
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Originally Posted by malikarshad View Post

This means when I have BD Iso/mkv with DTS-HD X3d won't decode it to LPCM multi ch and would downscale to 2ch. So why is there is an audio option for LCPM mutich and Downmix 2ch. I would assume if your source is Multich PCM it should work with HDMI Pass throu/Auto as well.
I don't see any need for LPCM multi ch option?
I need to understand. Can u please elaborate?

The Audio options are a bit confusing. This is best I can see how it works with the Mede8er under HDMI:

- Passthru: All audio gets sent through untouched to AVR
- Multi Ch: A bit deceiving, all audio will get downmixed to 2ch stereo except for multi ch PCM
- Downmix: All audio will get downmixed to 2ch stereo

So correct, via HDMI the X3D will decode to HD Audio to 2ch stereo and not multi ch PCM. I can just guess this is for licensing reasons, and the reason why this has been removed from just about all players
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post #786 of 888
1/13/13 at 6:56pm
Hey Guys - I've noticed a small issue during playback of my mkv files from my home server over my LAN to my 1000X3D. At least once or twice during file playback I will notice a small stutter where the video and audio pause for maybe 1 second or less but its quite annoying as it has happened probably the last 4 films I have watched. These files are primarily 4GB - 8GB in size and have DTS audio but never DTS-hd. My home server is a Windows Server 2008 box and I am streaming over gigabit LAN via SMB. Are there any tweaks I could use that would fix this issue or should I try using NFS?
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post #787 of 888
1/14/13 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by malikarshad View Post

I'm routing X3D HDMI output via Oppo BDP-103 as I don't have 3D compatible receiver.
I changed X3D audio output to HDMI LPCM Multich as oppo only accepts LPCM on its HDMI inputs.

But I'm only getting 2ch output from X3D for all types of files mkv, dvd iso, bd iso and 3D iso.

I tested Oppo BDP-103 with other input source and it correctly accepts LPCM signal.

I've experimented with all audio options (HDMI, Force AAC decode, Surround sound) but nothing send multich output.frown.gif

What settings do i need to get multich LPCM output from X3D?

Sorry to go off topic, but any chance you could check and see if the oppo will allow you to scale video via the hdmi? Specifically 16x9 shrunk to fit a 2.35 screen (black bars on the side)? I asked in the oppo thread but know one knew. If it does I will buy one to hook my xbox and ps3 up to.
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post #788 of 888
1/14/13 at 1:05pm
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Originally Posted by shepP View Post

Sorry to go off topic, but any chance you could check and see if the oppo will allow you to scale video via the hdmi? Specifically 16x9 shrunk to fit a 2.35 screen (black bars on the side)? I asked in the oppo thread but know one knew. If it does I will buy one to hook my xbox and ps3 up to.
There is a zoom option on Oppo but i don't think that will work. But I could try later and report back if it works.
I use Lumagen Radiance to switch between 16.9 and 2.35 in my 2.35 setup without zooming Projector lens. This works out great with a press of a button.
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post #789 of 888
1/14/13 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by malikarshad View Post

There is a zoom option on Oppo but i don't think that will work. But I could try later and report back if it works.
I use Lumagen Radiance to switch between 16.9 and 2.35 in my 2.35 setup without zooming Projector lens. This works out great with a press of a button.

Here is the response by Oppo CS
"At this time the player is not able to compress 16:9 so there are bars on the side. We can only vertically and horizontally stretch the video. The ability to pillarbox 16:9 is something that we are looking into supporting through a possible future firmware release."
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post #790 of 888
1/15/13 at 5:29am
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Originally Posted by malikarshad View Post

Here is the response by Oppo CS
"At this time the player is not able to compress 16:9 so there are bars on the side. We can only vertically and horizontally stretch the video. The ability to pillarbox 16:9 is something that we are looking into supporting through a possible future firmware release."

WOW that was really good of you to even email Oppos CS and ask. I never even thought to email them. Thanks! I'll keep watching for firmware updates. What would be even more sweet is if it could scale 3D on the input as well for video games!

Back to your regularly scheduled topic.

I've been enjoying my 600x3d. It's been playing 3D iso's really well over SMB. NFS was strange for me as it would freeze every 10 seconds or so for a good second. No problems over SMB though from my WHS 2003 Server version.
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post #791 of 888
1/19/13 at 12:06am
Just a quick update

X3D Series V2 is progressing real well in the Mede8er Beta Group and you can see the new 3 Row Movie JukeBox View in this clip. V2 also has TRUE 23.976fps and its working as expected.

http://www.mede8er.org/artwork/temp/Mede8er_X3D_v2_3_row_Movie_JukeBox_Demo.mp4

Any Mede8er X3D owner is welcome to apply to become a X3D beta tester to test the new V2

Send a email to technical@mede8er.com

1) Real Name
2) Mede8er Forum Name
3) Country
4) Equipment used in conjunction with the X3D

Mede8er1
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post #792 of 888
1/19/13 at 3:55am
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Originally Posted by mede8er1 View Post

Just a quick update

X3D Series V2 is progressing real well in the Mede8er Beta Group and you can see the new 3 Row Movie JukeBox View in this clip. V2 also has TRUE 23.976fps and its working as expected.

http://www.mede8er.org/artwork/temp/Mede8er_X3D_v2_3_row_Movie_JukeBox_Demo.mp4

Any Mede8er X3D owner is welcome to apply to become a X3D beta tester to test the new V2

Send a email to technical@mede8er.com

1) Real Name
2) Mede8er Forum Name
3) Country
4) Equipment used in conjunction with the X3D

Mede8er1

Looks good. I will send an email to tech support shortly. I thought I was set up for beta but just went to the forum and realized it is only for the 1185
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post #793 of 888
1/19/13 at 9:48am
I was looking at buying a MED1000X3D and am coming from a media player that I use TViXiE for all the artwork.
TViXiE also supports Mede8er, but will all the new Jukebox features require Y2M or will TViXiE still function nicely?
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post #794 of 888
1/19/13 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by SJSJ View Post

I was looking at buying a MED1000X3D and am coming from a media player that I use TViXiE for all the artwork.
TViXiE also supports Mede8er, but will all the new Jukebox features require Y2M or will TViXiE still function nicely?

you can use all this scrappers

http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php/topic,10.0.html
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post #795 of 888
1/19/13 at 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by mede8er1 View Post

Just a quick update

X3D Series V2 is progressing real well in the Mede8er Beta Group and you can see the new 3 Row Movie JukeBox View in this clip. V2 also has TRUE 23.976fps and its working as expected.

http://www.mede8er.org/artwork/temp/Mede8er_X3D_v2_3_row_Movie_JukeBox_Demo.mp4

Any Mede8er X3D owner is welcome to apply to become a X3D beta tester to test the new V2

Send a email to technical@mede8er.com

1) Real Name
2) Mede8er Forum Name
3) Country
4) Equipment used in conjunction with the X3D

Mede8er1

Any news on progress for forced subs with version 2?
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post #796 of 888
1/20/13 at 4:04pm
teste some anime sample files HI10P and play without issues sound + image - pass

(version 2.0.0)

ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High 10@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 6 frames
Muxing mode : Header stripping
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 7mn 34s
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 10 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Writing library : x264 core 125 r2200+677M 3a754e7
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post #797 of 888
1/24/13 at 10:18am
im posting this info that seems is not mention in any of recent topics about the mede8er players

Anyone ripping their movies with makemkv with english audio track and require only subtitles for foreign language and alien language in some movies, need to leave the correct forced subtitles tick so that makemkv rip the appropriate subtitles.

the subtitle definition must be on in GUI , at the start of the movie and without user intervention, when the english subtitle are required to translate the foreign/alien, the subtitle is show up on the screen.

this metod is supported in med1000x3d and mede600x3d in version 1.0.5 and 2.0.0



Heres a example of avatar , the freench forced subtitles only show up when they speak na´vi.



it works flawless with MKV format , i tested few movies , like district 9 , avatar, inglorious basters etc
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post #798 of 888
1/24/13 at 10:49am
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Originally Posted by canton160 View Post

im posting this info that seems is not mention in any of recent topics about the mede8er players

Anyone ripping their movies with makemkv with english audio track and require only subtitles for foreign language and alien language in some movies, need to leave the correct forced subtitles tick so that makemkv rip the appropriate subtitles.

the subtitle definition must be on in GUI , at the start of the movie and without user intervention, when the english subtitle are required to translate the foreign/alien, the subtitle is show up on the screen.

this metod is supported in med1000x3d and mede600x3d in version 1.0.5 and 2.0.0

Heres a example of avatar , the freench forced subtitles only show up when they speak na´vi.

it works flawless with MKV format , i tested few movies , like district 9 , avatar, inglorious basters etc

So to confirm, you are keeping subtitles on in the GUI settings for the Mede8er?
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post #799 of 888
1/24/13 at 11:21am
OK my boxee box has to go! tired of audio drops w/ hd audio, etc....looks like this is the player to get for HD blu ray rips, is now a good time to buy? meaning is there a new version around the corner or anything that I should wait on....also what is the best place to pick one up from? thanks for any info-
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post #800 of 888
1/24/13 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

So to confirm, you are keeping subtitles on in the GUI settings for the Mede8er?

yes.

@hook

the mede8er came out last september 2012, until realtek brings a new chip for 4k biggrin.gif the med100x3d gone last a few years.
mediaconcept is the us supplier to mede8er.

http://www.mediaconceptusa.com/mede8er.html
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post #801 of 888
1/24/13 at 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by canton160 View Post

yes.

So it is really just a work around, not true implementation of forced subs (i.e. with forced subs they should appear even if subs are shut off). I believe what you are seeing, if MakeMKV sees forced subs it will set the default flag to true for that track, and my guess is that is what the Mede8er is picking up on (which I believe is standard to load the sub track that is flagged as default). The problem with this is for people who have subtitles in all their videos but don't want to constantly have to turn them off (which you would have to do by keeping subs turned on)
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post #802 of 888
1/24/13 at 4:17pm
Canton, I can assure you it is not flawless. MakeMKV did a horrible job pulling forced subs from Avatar in my experiments. I had to remux the file with MKVmerge with a good stream extracted by BDSup2sub. The Mede8er on 1.0.5 DOES NOT recognize the forced subtitle flag so this is a band aid fix. You are simply turning on subtitles in the player defaults and as long as the forced stream is the first one it will display automatically, it's the method I've been using up until now. My experiment doing this with MKV was not flawless either. The Med completely ignored the first sub in Avatar while in ISO form it does not.

I just joined the Beta so hopefully this weekend will get it installed, too bad you can't share progress outside of the Beta.
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post #803 of 888
1/25/13 at 6:04am
Update

X3D - V2 will support an Aggregated Movie JukeBox so that content can by aggregated across SMB and NFS shares on different PC's NAS devices as well as Internal HDD and USB drives connected to the X3D.

Mede8er1
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post #804 of 888
1/25/13 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by mede8er1 View Post

Update

X3D - V2 will support an Aggregated Movie JukeBox so that content can by aggregated across SMB and NFS shares on different PC's NAS devices as well as Internal HDD and USB drives connected to the X3D.

Mede8er1

That is great news, one of my complaints with the current jukebox based on how my library is set up. I should be able to start testing out the v2 Beta this weekend
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post #805 of 888
1/25/13 at 10:47am
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Originally Posted by canton160 View Post

yes.

@hook

the mede8er came out last september 2012, until realtek brings a new chip for 4k biggrin.gif the med100x3d gone last a few years.
mediaconcept is the us supplier to mede8er.

http://www.mediaconceptusa.com/mede8er.html

ordered- thanks for the info- hope I get along with it better than boxee, it's been a love/hate relationship
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post #806 of 888
1/27/13 at 1:52pm
Well I just hit the order button. This will be my first media streaming device besides my roku.

Now its time to work on building an unraid server and start ripping my collection.

Any advice on ISO or MKV? Is one better for forced subs? Im okay with menus or even movie only and HD audio to save on space. I just want to choose whatever is stable. I don't have any 3d movies and won't be getting any.
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post #807 of 888
1/27/13 at 2:54pm
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Originally Posted by jmoakk View Post

Well I just hit the order button. This will be my first media streaming device besides my roku.

Now its time to work on building an unraid server and start ripping my collection.

Any advice on ISO or MKV? Is one better for forced subs? Im okay with menus or even movie only and HD audio to save on space. I just want to choose whatever is stable. I don't have any 3d movies and won't be getting any.

Makemkv for 2D you will be fine, you still save some space.
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post #808 of 888
1/27/13 at 3:00pm
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Originally Posted by jmoakk View Post

Well I just hit the order button. This will be my first media streaming device besides my roku.

Now its time to work on building an unraid server and start ripping my collection.

Any advice on ISO or MKV? Is one better for forced subs? Im okay with menus or even movie only and HD audio to save on space. I just want to choose whatever is stable. I don't have any 3d movies and won't be getting any.

Doesn't matter, it doesn't recognize forced subs currently. MKV seems more stable in my experience thus far, I get micro HD audio drops and occasional video stutter with ISO.
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post #809 of 888
1/27/13 at 8:06pm
Thanks guys, I'll give mkv a go first.

Are you guys using makemkv or something else?
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post #810 of 888
1/28/13 at 3:31am
MakeMKV and sometimes a combination of MakeMKV and MKVmerge with a couple others for those that MakeMKV has issues with. For instance I only tried the forced sub once with MakeMKV but it didn't do a very good job so ended up remuxing with MKVmerge and the stream extracted by another program. The band aid fix for forced subs is either have the forced sub stream the first subtitle stream, or in my case the only subtitle stream, and then turn on subtitles in the player defaults.
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