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post #1291 of 1320
Having a small issue and wondering if anyone is having the same. When ripping my copy of Pirates of the Caribbean - on stranger tides using MakeMKV, the 3D tag isn't working to automatically activate 3D like it does with my other 3D titles (.3DSBS). When selecting 3D side by side under the menu, it is all screwy and is not displaying properly. When I accidentally selected 3D simulation, it displayed proper 3D and I could watch the movie fine. What gives??
post #1292 of 1320
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Originally Posted by JaremyP View Post

Doing a mental exercise to consider a Mede8er in my setup. This would replace a PCH A400 and likely negate any use of a Fire TV (for Plex) or HTPC. I'll be streaming from a Synology DS1511+. BD/DVD main movie rips. All MKV with HD audio and forced subtitles only. Would also have 3D BD content which I'd keep in MKV as well to be consistent. I have some questions I'm searching for answers on.

Hoping those experienced with the box can help with answers about it's current state. Plus maybe this would serve as a mini-FAQ of sorts for other people considering these.

1. Are you still happy with the support, stability, and firmware releases these boxes are getting?

2. The 800/1000X3D boxes seem like they've been out a while (in technology years). Has there been any rumoring about new models?

3. Does the box pick up forced subtitle flags in MKV? Are there any issues displaying PGS in MKV?

4. Using the native jukebox and scraper, does it save meta data locally? So any future rescan or scan from a 2nd box in the house would pick up the placed local meta data and use it without resourcing or rematching online?

5. Does the jukebox UI do anything to denote whether a movie is in 3D? Any special tag, logo, or overlay? If not and it saves local meta data, could I edit a poster image or something to put a 3D tag or edit the movie name easily to add "3D" to it?

6. Are you generally happy with the jukebox presentation? Is it fast to navigate? Can you configure the device to boot to the jukebox view? How is the WAF?

7. Does the box have IP control for a Control4 system?

8. Any reason given my use case to consider the 1000? It appears now they are actually the same price from the US reseller ($225). I think I like the box style case of the 800 vs the orb.

9. Do you like the iOS library browsing/control apps?

10. Does artwork render high resolution and sharp on the jukebox UI on the TV? I've found I've been fairly disappointed in the meta image quality rendering of the PCH.

11. For 3D BDs, do you keep 3D and 2D rips separately for the same movie? Or do you just keep the 3D copy and it's fairly easy on the box to control playback in 2D or 3D mode? Any other considerations to this approach.

Thanks so much for anyone taking time to answer these questions.

Based on what you've mentioned I think I have a similar setup as you, I have all of my movies on a Synology NAS and that includes both DVD and Blu-Ray Rips (Nothing 3D though). That said over the years I've tried several different media players and none of them did anything for me so I ended up with HTPC's that I built now my main one is no longer capable of playing full BR Rips so I decided to take another look at various players and have tried / returned several of them including the WD TV, Micca and even the one offered by DVD Fab (do NOT waste your money on that). I got a Mede8er MED600X3D as I don't want / need an internal hard drive and don't really care for the look of the 1000. I've had mine for a few months now and I've become very comfortable with it and feel that it is very reliable. I only had a slight issue with some of my ISO files which I ended up converting to MKV files and haven't had any issues since.

 

So to answer your questions

1) I've posted various things in the Mede8er Forum as well as here and have been very impressed with the support on both ends. I feel the player is very stable, the only issue I ever had was self inflicted when I changed the share name on my Synology which the Mede8er obviously didn't like, certainly not its fault.

 

2) I haven't heard anything about potential new models but if / when they do come out with one I am sure it will be a top notch player with even more support. I would buy another one / move my existing one to another TV in the future.

 

3) I was so new to this and didn't even know what "Forced Subs" were until I ripped / played back one of the Star Wars and sure enough it didn't work. So the short answer is no they don't work but I found that for whatever reason sub track #3 has been the magic one that can be turned on very easily from the remote.

 

4) For the Scrapper App to work properly the Mede8er needs "Write Access" to all of the folders as it populates them with an xml file as well as the cover art. It also puts a "watched" file if you have the Watched Indicator turned on. So in my experience if you to a scan it won't even bother looking at the folder if it sees the XML File in it. Which is good to know if you get an improper match as you need to delete that file before it will scan it again.

 

5) I don't use the Jukebox (just the scraper / cover-art) and I don't do 3D so I will leave this to others.

 

6) Again don't use the Jukebox

 

7) No Clue

 

8) Do you want Internal Storage? If not then go with the MED600X3D they are all pretty much identical, the only difference is the 1000 has an External IR Port which the others don't. Here is the link to all of the specs side by side. http://www.mede8er.com/mede8er_product_matrix.htm

 

9) I don't use any of the Apps but having a keyboard would be nice, I tried adding a Logitech Wireless Keyboard but it doesn't work well at all. The one that they support has been out of stock forever.

 

10) The Scraper App adds very high quality images so I can only assume the Jukebox does the same?

 

11) As I mentioned I don't do 3D so.

 

Bottom line, I highly recommend the Mede8er Players for the price, I've heard that Dune might be better but I've also heard that they do not have good support and are much more expensive.

post #1293 of 1320
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Originally Posted by JaremyP View Post

Doing a mental exercise to consider a Mede8er in my setup. This would replace a PCH A400 and likely negate any use of a Fire TV (for Plex) or HTPC. I'll be streaming from a Synology DS1511+. BD/DVD main movie rips. All MKV with HD audio and forced subtitles only. Would also have 3D BD content which I'd keep in MKV as well to be consistent. I have some questions I'm searching for answers on.

Hoping those experienced with the box can help with answers about it's current state. Plus maybe this would serve as a mini-FAQ of sorts for other people considering these.



11. For 3D BDs, do you keep 3D and 2D rips separately for the same movie? Or do you just keep the 3D copy and it's fairly easy on the box to control playback in 2D or 3D mode? Any other considerations to this approach.

Thanks so much for anyone taking time to answer these questions.

Since all your other questions have been covered by someone else, I'll take this one.

I rip my 3DBDs in 3D, but I don't usually play them in 3D. I name the .mkv files without the 3D tags so they normally start in 2D. If I want to watch in 3D, I start the movie playing, bring up the menu and select 3Dsbs (3Dtab works as well) which then switches both the Mede8er and my TV into 3D mode. Simple and works quite well.

Fred
post #1294 of 1320
Are these Mede8er's still one of the top 3D streamers?

I bought a second 3D TV and figuring out what media player to go for. Don't want to spend over $225 for one. I currently have a 600X3D with no complaints. Figured I would ask before ordering.
post #1295 of 1320

I think that I'll pull the trigger on 1000 series too, my 1st gen wd tv live has got issues with me lately. (Freezing, losing settings, does not find nas etc.) And this seems to be twice the player.

post #1296 of 1320
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Originally Posted by omiz View Post
 

I think that I'll pull the trigger on 1000 series too, my 1st gen wd tv live has got issues with me lately. (Freezing, losing settings, does not find nas etc.) And this seems to be twice the player.


The 1000, 800 and 600 are really the same exact unit (Same processor, same amount of memory) just different cases and weather or not you want to have an internal hard drive with one other exception the 1000 does have an IR port, the others do not.

 

http://www.mede8er.com/mede8er_product_matrix.htm

post #1297 of 1320
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Originally Posted by funhouse69 View Post
 


The 1000, 800 and 600 are really the same exact unit (Same processor, same amount of memory) just different cases and weather or not you want to have an internal hard drive with one other exception the 1000 does have an IR port, the others do not.

 

http://www.mede8er.com/mede8er_product_matrix.htm

Yeah, I'll need that ir port. I have all my HW in closed cabinet so IR-extenders will get handy ;)

post #1298 of 1320
Can you tell me if mede8er med800x3d works with wifi adapter usb realtek as asus não-10?
Thank you.

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post #1299 of 1320
Asus n-10

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post #1300 of 1320
Ended up ordering a second 600X3D for the new 3D TV in the living room. Havn't had any issues with my original 600X3D except for sticking keys on the remote.
post #1301 of 1320
Is there a way to rename the menu "Favourites" to American spelling of "Favorites"? Pet peeve of mine.
post #1302 of 1320
Set the language to English (US) and not English
post #1303 of 1320
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Originally Posted by djc11369 View Post

Set the language to English (US) and not English


I just tried that on my MED600X3D and it still shows "Favourites".

post #1304 of 1320
post #1305 of 1320
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Originally Posted by mede8er1 View Post

X3D Series Home Page USA Skin
http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php/topic,10937.0.html

 

That did the trick... Thanks for the info

post #1306 of 1320

I'm thinking of getting a MED600X3D, due to feeling frustrated with the lack of support for my current PCH A300. It's mainly for watching downloaded mkv and mp4 files. After scanning this thread (and other forums), I have a couple of questions:

 

1. I saw a comment on the MEDE8ER forum that, compared to Sigma-based players, the Realtek players are less forgiving of files that don't quite meet the standard. Is there any truth in this? Most files do play on the PCH, except for some with a certain type of AAC audio (a known bug on the PCH A300).

 

2. A feature that my wife likes on the PCH is the ability to turn off the Denon AVR3310 and use its hdmi passthrough to listen to the sound through the TV speakers. The connection is PCH - hdmi - AVR - hdmi - Panasonic plasma, and the PCH is able to detect that the TV cannot decode AC3 or DTS, so it downmixes these to stereo for the TV. Will this work on the MEDE8ER?

 

3. How is the MEDE8ER for lip sync problems? The PCH seems a bit more temperamental than my old WDTV Live in this respect, but on the plus side it has a manual adjustment that one can easily apply while watching a show.

post #1307 of 1320
1. actually backwards realteks are usually more forgiving on files.
2. No idea I never tested if the realtek uses EDID information or not. But I am thinking it does not and you have to manually change the setting each time but I could be wrong.
3. never had sync issues with my 600x or my a400
post #1308 of 1320

Thanks halfelite. Re 2., I was hoping that the HDMI Auto setting under Audio Settings would read the EDID information from the TV. The manual says:


"HDMI Auto is the suggested setting for HDMI Audio. All audio will automatically passed through to the
amplifier - Dolby / DTS Bitstream - Dolby True HD / DTSMA - PCM / Multi-Channel LPCM.
It is suggested to always use HDMI Auto in preference to HDMI Passthrough or LPCM Multi CH"

 

which doesn't make it too clear, though "Auto" suggested to me that the player might detect the audio capability of the display or AVR.

post #1309 of 1320
Quote:
"HDMI Auto is the suggested setting for HDMI Audio. All audio will automatically passed through to the
amplifier - Dolby / DTS Bitstream - Dolby True HD / DTSMA - PCM / Multi-Channel LPCM.
It is suggested to always use HDMI Auto in preference to HDMI Passthrough or LPCM Multi CH"

Reason we suggest 'HDMI Auto' is that in some setups the AAC Mutichannel does not work when set to HDMI Passthrough.

Mede8er1
post #1310 of 1320
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Originally Posted by mede8er1 View Post

Reason we suggest 'HDMI Auto' is that in some setups the AAC Mutichannel does not work when set to HDMI Passthrough.

Mede8er1

So we can take it that it means you do read the EDID information from the hdmi line and supply the correct audio out then? So if I had it connected to my avr it would read everything can bitstream then if i moved it to a tv it would downmix to stereo?
post #1311 of 1320
Just got my 600X3D and everything is working great but I'm having a small issue. I have my 600X3D running through my Marantz AV7005 then to the TV and I am not able to get the volume to show on screen. I am replacing a Boxee Box and the OSD volume would display fine while watching a movie and now I can't get the volume to show. I am using the same HDMI cable that is going through my AV7005 then to the TV.

Is there a setting I need to do to get this to work? I hope its just a setting that I'm missing cause it would be a bummer if I'm not able to get the volume to show.
post #1312 of 1320
Make sure you run the feature in the Mede8er setup menu that has the red bars so you can adjust your actual screen size. I think it is under Video section.
post #1313 of 1320
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Originally Posted by ZzBloopzZ View Post

Make sure you run the feature in the Mede8er setup menu that has the red bars so you can adjust your actual screen size. I think it is under Video section.

Yes I did that and set the red lines to fit my TV. I notice that when viewing a movie and I try to enter the setup menu for my Marantz the screen goes black and then flips to a different resolution to open the Marantz menu while the audio is still playing from the movie. Normally this menu overlays whatever is on the screen. With Boxee it would work for either 1080p60 or 1080p24 and now the menu and volume is not showing.
post #1314 of 1320
Ok I found the issue. Turns out by turning off Deep Color now allows me to see the volume on screen as well as my AVRs setup menu now overlays properly. I'm assuming my AVR doesn't support Deep Color but I believe my TV (Samsung 64D8000) does. Am I losing out on anything by turning it off? Trying to see if its better to keep it on than off since I can live without seeing the overlay.
post #1315 of 1320
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Originally Posted by Greg Haynes View Post

Ok I found the issue. Turns out by turning off Deep Color now allows me to see the volume on screen as well as my AVRs setup menu now overlays properly. I'm assuming my AVR doesn't support Deep Color but I believe my TV (Samsung 64D8000) does. Am I losing out on anything by turning it off?
Technically no. There is no advantage to select/use 'Deep Colour' because there are no 'Deep Colour' video sources.

Plus selecting/using 'Deep Colour' increases the overall bandwidth of the HDMI signal and requires greater video processing by your surround sound amp and/or TV. It might also exceed the speed capabilities of one or more of your HDMI leads!
post #1316 of 1320
Quote:
So we can take it that it means you do read the EDID information from the hdmi line and supply the correct audio out then? So if I had it connected to my avr it would read everything can bitstream then if i moved it to a tv it would downmix to stereo?

Correct

Mede8er1
post #1317 of 1320
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Originally Posted by mede8er1 View Post


Correct

Mede8er1


Thanks, this is good news! I will go ahead and buy a MED600X3D now. I've been agonising over this for weeks, e.g. should I try XBMC on a NUC (or even Raspberry Pi), or go for another media player... :cool:

post #1318 of 1320
XBMC on a NUC (with OpenELEC) is very good as well, but no full 3D Blu-ray support with XBMC. Otherwise, NUC would've been perfect do-it-all media player.
post #1319 of 1320

3D not an issue for me, but I played a bit with XBMC on my laptop, connected to AVR by HDMI. It seemed pretty good, but when I turned off the AVR to try the automatic downmix to stereo for the TV, it crashed the laptop! Since my wife likes this feature on our current player, it looked like it might be a deal-breaker. Not sure if other xbmc hardware like the NUC can handle easy switching between multi-channel and 2-channel, since it needs to be able to read the edid hdmi information in the TV...?

post #1320 of 1320
For ease of use, Mede8er is better. XBMC is great for customization, very polished UI, live TV, video add-ons, etc. I have HD audio working perfectly as well as sync with my projector. But, I rely on Mede8er for all my 3D.
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