*Official* Mede8er X3D (1000 | 800 | 600) Streamer Thread - Page 4

new review about med1000x3d in hdfever.fr

this time tested with blu rays iso 2D and 3D

"UPnP I have not met jerks at the moment, even rips Blu-ray to MKV or not recompressed M2TS, TS, etc. and with a DTS-HD MA track.

Otherwise, USB I have not encountered concern in 24p or with DTS-HD, TrueHD, MKV, DVD ISO and BD, Blu-ray directory, FLAC 192 khz. It is compatible and CEC Auto Lipsync and it is not bad because it is rare. The reader hardly any plant, it is very quiet and mostly it is fast, very responsive"


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I heard that sigma based CPU gives better image quality than realtek based CPU. Is that true at all?

no

Just ordered mine, so will hopefully have by the end of the coming week .

Cool! Let us know if it does what it is supposed to! I thought of ordering one as well but still have too many projects sitting around as well as 55 more blu rays that need ripped to disc..
Be sure to post up your equipment list too so we know what works!
Also, did we ever determine if this thing was capable of full blu ray iso playback with menu's? I can't remember...

That I know... no full BD menus, unless profile 1.0 discs, so BD-lite for most.

Just got the unit , Looks great, build quality, nice box, better in person then on the pictures. Silent unit Looks good. Been testing with mixed results. But been working with mede8er and they have been AWESOME so far.
1.) make sure you turn off lip sync it will mess up HD audio.
2.) some issues with m4v files from handbrake with the aac 5.1 freezing the picture, working on it with mede8er
3.) a few mkv with high bitrate hd audio 6.1 or 7.1 and will drop audio, working with them on it as well, they notices a issue, response below, I will test m2ts later today
"Seems you are correct and X3 has some upper limit when using very high bitrate MKV inc HD Audio over Samba ie above 35mb/s. Converting to m2ts does fix this problem. Short term I suggest you mux your files to m2ts and we will investigate this"
I have done 3d iso and iso without issue so far picked the right track every time, and I did not have to turn off bd menu, If it does not work it will continue with it off and everything has played well except the issues above.
I have not noticed frame drops, etc. in 3d or non 3d , but not sure how to 100% verify that it is 23.976 or not?? my projector just shows 24p, and the unit reports 23.98 on the info button. But it looks good to me so far?

Yes NO Full blu ray menus. I can verify that, just bd lite

Okay, the m4v is solved the x3d does not support variable bitrate. If you are using the handbrake atv preset it uses variable bitrate. SO, I just need to adjust handbrake settings for this one.

To my knowledge the only (media-player) chipset capable of FULL Bluray menus remains the Sigma SMP 8642/8643 series.

'x3d does not support variable bitrate' correction - it does but it does not support variable fps


Mede8er1

I also read on the mede8er forums that NFS also resolves the MKV audio drops without remuxing... might be worth a try.

Yup, NSF works great, no drops yet. I do like this unit so far.
Sorry about the mis information on the variable bit rate, it was variable fps.

I got mine as well. Will be testing this and other things this weekend. Mede8er added a playlist navigator as well in case you need to manually choose the proper playlist.

I've used my 1000X3D for a few hours now and really like it. It's basically the 450X2/500X2 with 3D support added. The boot up time, UI navigation, etc. are noticeably faster than X2 series. The same Y2M output works perfectly with X3, but I did have to delete the old Mede8er database file and re-scan the share as it gave me an odd 'folder missing' error when I didn't the first time. I also decided to separate my 3D movies share from my 2D, which makes it easier to get to just the 3D, but it does mean separate jukeboxes and running different instances of Y2M. Not a big deal though.

So far, I added a custom skin from Mede8er's forum and that worked fine, but UI felt a tad sluggish, so I reverted to default UI. In my case, when I first boot up, the UI is sometimes zoomed in and fuzzy, so I need to switch to a different HDMI input on my receiver and switch back for it to look right. This happened with HiMedia HD900B and Micca EP600 G2 as well sometimes. I'm guessing it's the 1000X3D switching from its default 50Hz boot-up to the eventual 10800/60Hz setting I have it at, with my Optoma HD33 maybe not scaling the picture properly in the process. I watched 'The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo' (Fincher version) full BD rip (MKV format) with HD audio all the way though via SMB from my Synology 1812+ w/o any issues. Perfect video and audio!

The build quality of the 1000X3D itself is quite solid, heavier than I'd expected. Not sure I'm crazy about the silver and spaceship design (felt the same way about Boxee Box's funky look), but that isn't a big deal as the player itself so far appears to be a winner, the first 1186-based to get it right (build, UI, jukebox, functionality). I'm also thrilled with Mede8er's support and response so far. I'm now a beta tester for them, so will try to actively provide feedback there. I already boxed up my Mede8er 450X2 and HiMedia 900B to eBay off . The 1000X3D is shaping up to be the best of both of those combined.
Edited by Brajesh - 8/24/12 at 12:04pm

Is its firmware better than Miccas 600G2/950? Less buggy?
How well does it handle Rio 3D and Cars 2 3D Bluray ISO's. How well does it work with Avatar 3D Bluray ISO with the forced Navi only english subs? Any of the Micca firmware bugs on this device? TIA.

Where are you guys buying this from?

Good summary. I picked one up out of curiosity and feel the same way. Very solid looking, I like the changes to the default menu as well. Playback was flawless other than the known forced subtitle issue, but worst case I can always remux my movies and only include the subs I need.

found it here http://mediaconceptusa.com/mede8er.html.
Hopefully it will come to 179 usd for wifi model on amazon soon.

AFAIK, Mediaconcept is the only U.S. dealer. If the prices of the 500X2/450X2 units are any indication I wouldn't expect any price drops coming.

Please check on these test files in "24Hz" mode: http://www.mediafire.com/?w4dm4i2a99weoh4 from HokeySmoke. Absence of stutters in 3D (SBS file) also interests.
Description of the problem here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1380932/micca-ep950/330#post_21705939 .

I did a bunch of tests over the weekend, so posting my results here and at the Mede8er forum. I did update to V1.0.3_Aug22_BETA firmware first. My previous post was based on V1.0.3_18August_BETA.
With the August 22 beta firmware, I'm no longer seeing this issue. I booted up the player a few times, switched from other HDMI inputs via my receiver, but every time I got to the main UI without any distortions. Hope it stays this way with upcoming firmwares, which Mede8er is releasing quite proactively. One thing to note is that they recommend the 'emergency' firmware update method for a clean install, but this also wipes out all your 1000X3D's settings, including shares under 'Favorites'. As it's an annoyance to reconfigure, under 'Setup', you can save your configuration to a USB stick and use later to restore it, which is nice.
Did so...

...with the following settings under 'Video' for my 1000X3D...

...and here are my results:
- MotionBars_720p50.000.m2ts ... Top two bars stutter as they move from right to left, bottom bar slightly
- MotionBars_720p59.940.m2ts ... All bars move smoothly
- MotionBars_720p60.000.m2ts ... All bars move smoothly
- MotionBars_1080p23.976.m2ts ... All three bars stutter (same result with auto framerate disabled)
- MotionBars_1080p24.000.m2ts ... Top two bars stutter, bottom bar slightly
- MotionBars_1080p59.940.m2ts ... All bars move smoothly
- MotionBars_1080p60.000.m2ts ... All bars move smoothly
- MotionBarsSBS_1080p23.976.m2ts ... Top two bars stutter, bottom bar slightly
- MotionBarsSBS_1080p24.000.m2ts ... Top two bars stutter, bottom bar slightly
I tested 'Toy Story 3' 3D, 'Cars 2' 3D and 'Grand Canyon Adventure: River at Risk' 3D, all of which defaulted to the incorrect playlist on my HiMedia HD900B. For 'Toy Story 3' 3D and 'Cars 2' 3D, you would get the Spanish credits playlist, and with 'Grand Canyon' 3D, you would get the making-of, not the main feature. HiMedia later added playlist select via BD-lite option, but on Mede8er 1000X3D, I'm happy to report all defaulted to the proper playlist. However, if I do need or want to select a certain playlist, I'm not sure how to do it on 1000X3D. I tried enabling and disabling the BD menu via the 'F3' button on the remote, but I didn't notice anything different when pressing 'Menu' when playing a Blu-ray ISO. I tried the 'Goto' option, which shows the following...

...but, this doesn't seem to let you switch playlists. Unless 'Despicable Me' 3D only has one playlist. I should've tried one of the titles above, so I'll do it when I get a chance.

One possible bug is when playing a Blu-ray ISO with BD menu enabled, I get this error:

However, I chose 'Continue' and playback seems fine, including for 3D titles (with 2D version on the same disc), where the right 3D playlist plays.

Continuing on, I played for about 20 minutes my 1:1 MKV rip of 'Star Wars: Episode II' Blu-ray with HD audio. Smooth playback via SMB, no video stutters or audio dropouts:

As you can see, after I pressed 'Info' on the 1000X3D remote, it shows the video at the proper 23.98 (23.976 rounded up) framerate. For audio, it shows just DTS, but when I hit 'Display' on my receiver, I'm in fact getting full DTS-HD MA.

Now, this goes back to the motion bars test results above, when I play a film-based 3D Blu-ray...

...I'm getting a 23.99 framerate. The above screenshot is blurry as it's obviously 3D without glasses. I let 'Avatar' 3D play for about 10 minutes, and even with that odd framerate, the video appeared smooth. If I'd watched it longer, maybe I would've noticed frame skips. Even with my HiMedia HD900B however, which we know doesn't do proper 23.976 in 3D, I didn't notice as many skips, which I attribute to my Optoma HD33 projector possibly doing a good job masking the issue.

Next, some problem videos... I tested a 3D SBS file. It's the London Olympics closing ceremony, which plays in 3D once I press 'Menu' and select side-by-side option, but playback stutters. Not sure if this is related to the high bitrate playback issue kpump identified for both SMB and NFS, but Mede8er has acknowledged it as a Realtek SDK issue and expects to fix in a future firmware. Here is the MediaInfo detail of the file that stuttered for me: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
So, I thought I'd try NFS, but so far, I'm getting 'failed' messages on my 1000X3D when trying to set it up. I followed instructions here, but no luck. I have a Synology DS1812+. I'll ask for help in the Mede8er forum for this, but if anyone here has successfully set-up NFS on their Mede8er/Synology combo, please do explain exactly how you made it work.

The next problem files I ran into were MP4 downloads from YouTube. Here is MediaInfo for one of them: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show) With files like this, I get video, but no audio.

Still need to evaluate the Mede8er 1000X3D further, but beyond the few playback exceptions above, most of my movies I sampled for a few minutes each played perfectly, including those with 5.1, 6.1 and 7.1 hd audio (both TrueHD and DTS-HD MA). Also, as with other Realtek 1185- and 1186-based players I've tried, the 1000X3D plays camcorder 1080p/60 files perfectly. This is also true for less than perfectly authored or muxed videos. I've found Realtek-based players generally more forgiving and better at video playback than Sigma-based.

Did want to mention that while the remote is light, nicely designed (button placement, ergonomics), it needed to be pointed straight at the 1000X3D for responsiveness (or having to re-press buttons). I'm using my Harmony One anyway, which did better controlling the player off direct line of sight. I had it previously programmed for my Mede8er 450X2, and it controls the 1000X3D as well. I do see some extra buttons on the 1000X3D remote, like the F1, F2, F3, F4 buttons, so will need to program those in.
Edited by Brajesh - 8/27/12 at 10:18am

I have NFS working, but it locks for me. Hard locks after a few minutes. I have to pull power to reset. I know it is picky, but I am not a NFS expert. Have to use full path, and caps matter.
I use unrais so path was
nmt/user/Movies for me. The share is Movies had to use captiol M or it did not map.

thanks for the review @brajesh

in the micca ep950 my pj epson tw6000 aka 3300 (similar to hd33) also shows 23.99 framerate in 3D

I also have a synology ds412+ with dsm 4.0, try this:
Go to Privileges, Shared Folder and for video set the following:

IP: 192.1.6.1.* (example)
read/write: both
root squash: no map
activate : assincrono

try with jumbo frames on and try with jumbo off.

and the normal steps , enable NFS in synology, must be in same network etc.

heres a xbmc guide with pictures you can get the idea.

http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=NFS

regards
canton

Thanks, I'll keep trying. I think I did have volume1 in lower case, so will try Volume1 for the share and see. Will have to read manual to see where to disable/enable jumbo frames. But, as kpump noted, he is still having problems with high bitrate files via NFS, so it may not solve my sole stuttering 3D SBS file I've experienced the issue on so far.

At least smb is working for the high bitrate stuff for you, mine drops the audio every time, just a matter of time.

Makes sense as there have been frequent firmware updates since release, which is a great thing. Re: BD playlist support, their V1.0.3 firmware release notes say, "New Aplha functionality BD Playlist select on Menu button options when playing BD structure." So, maybe it hasn't been added after all, or I wonder if by BD structure they mean BD folder rips and not ISO?

Mine behaves exactly the same way. Works with non-Disney BD-ISO's, but for Disney, I need to turn off by pressing 'F3'.