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post #931 of 1300
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

I've watched 'Monsters, Inc.' and 'Toy Story 3' 3D ISO's without issues. But, I've been contemplating MVC MKV's for titles like 'Avatar' for the forced subs issue.

Ah Brajesh! Thank you. I went back to your review you posted a while ago for this unit to see if any updates were there.
post #932 of 1300
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

I've watched 'Monsters, Inc.' and 'Toy Story 3' 3D ISO's without issues. But, I've been contemplating MVC MKV's for titles like 'Avatar' for the forced subs issue.

Well, technically the forced subtitle issue is not fixed with mvc mkv, you still have to make sure subs are turned on.

I wish mvc mkv would get better support from all the players. If so I would quickly switch right over, but I just can't commit to with support being so spotty (and since I have a variety of different players in my house)
post #933 of 1300
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Well, technically the forced subtitle issue is not fixed with mvc mkv, you still have to make sure subs are turned on.

I wish mvc mkv would get better support from all the players. If so I would quickly switch right over, but I just can't commit to with support being so spotty (and since I have a variety of different players in my house)

Subtitles are a minimal (if at all) concern to me: stable 3D ISO support is my main concern (along w/fantastic stable 2D).
post #934 of 1300
Looking at the Mede8er players over my PCH A-400 because of MVC MKV 3D.

With a 3D ripped BD like this on the Mede8er, can you choose to play the same file as 3D or 2D? How easy is it to pick or switch modes?

Also, does the ui clearly show what is 3D?
post #935 of 1300
What I really wanna know is HOW THE HECK AM I GOING TO RACK MOUNT THESE?
post #936 of 1300
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Originally Posted by JaremyP View Post

With a 3D ripped BD like this on the Mede8er, can you choose to play the same file as 3D or 2D? How easy is it to pick or switch modes?

Also, does the ui clearly show what is 3D?
Easy. Press 'Menu' after playback starts. Not sure what you mean by "does the ui clearly show what is 3D", but if you mean the UI itself being 3D, yes.
post #937 of 1300
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

Easy. Press 'Menu' after playback starts. Not sure what you mean by "does the ui clearly show what is 3D", but if you mean the UI itself being 3D, yes.

I think he is asking if the jukebox marks things as 3d does it allow yamj and the likes to create 3d tags for movies and display it so you know a movie is 3d
post #938 of 1300
I think he was asking if you could select a MVC MKV 3D file can you play it in 2D. I do not believe you can can play this format of file in 2d.
post #939 of 1300
you can chose to view in 2d and it just shows the left eye ( or maybe its the right one! doesn't matter really )
post #940 of 1300
Yes, I was asking if an MVC MKV can be set to play in either 3d or 2d mode. I'd like the device to default to 2d playback on a given file until I specifically set it to 3d mode.

That's sucks if 2d mode is only a single eye and not the whole 1080p image like you'd get off a regular bluray.

Basically, having both modes off the single file really make storage a lot easier since you wouldn't have to keep both files around.
post #941 of 1300
The Mede8er plays a 3D file in 2D in full 1080P resolution. cool.gif
post #942 of 1300
Hey guys,

Just a quick heads-up that I have (3) MED450X's listed in the classifieds (under HTPC Components) as I am upgrading to the 600X3D. They are dirt cheap if anyone is looking for a great deal on like new Mede8ers for a bedroom or living room.

Thanks!
post #943 of 1300
Just getting into streaming and became interested in this line due to their ability to play BD and SD DVD menus. However I do not have a need for 3D. Can someone confirm that based on their product line, if you want menu access you need to purchase from the 3D line. The non-3D line, based on trying to read through their charts on the website, does not seem to support menu display. Do I have that correct?

BJBBJB
post #944 of 1300
no 3D players on the market is able to play BD menus. Whatever brand it is.

For full BD menus you will need a 2D player only, and they are getting less and less available...
post #945 of 1300
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Originally Posted by Mr Eric View Post

no 3D players on the market is able to play BD menus. Whatever brand it is.

For full BD menus you will need a 2D player only, and they are getting less and less available...

I thinks this may be incorrect. The only BD's I have tried are: 3D ISO and 3D MKV (Menu does not work), and the 2D "folder structure" Reference discs found on AVSForum (Menu works). What am I missing?

Mark
post #946 of 1300
If the reference discs are Simple Profile 1.0 (or home made avchd structures) it might work, but this is completely different menus compared to a real bd movie menu.

Believe me, those menus can't be played on any 3d media player out there. This is the reality from day one. All you can get is bdlite support and if you want full menu support you are limited to a 2d players.

If I remember correctly there's only one player able to do 3d and menus which is a pioneer player but with huge limitations and a homebrew firmware.
post #947 of 1300
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

I thinks this may be incorrect. The only BD's I have tried are: 3D ISO and 3D MKV (Menu does not work), and the 2D "folder structure" Reference discs found on AVSForum (Menu works). What am I missing?

Mark

I know the PCH A-400 will not play any of the reference disc menu structures. I would think the MED8ER would be similar.
post #948 of 1300
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Originally Posted by cadett View Post

I know the PCH A-400 will not play any of the reference disc menu structures. I would think the MED8ER would be similar.

Thanks for the info!

I was initially under the impression the mede8er at least played the basic non-java blu-ray menus if you point it at a NAS ISO. On the spec sheet page for the MED600X3d it lists "BD menu-non-java support". It also popped up on a list with the Dune as supporting Blu-Ray menus.


BJBBJB
post #949 of 1300
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Originally Posted by BJBBJB View Post

Thanks for the info!

I was initially under the impression the mede8er at least played the basic non-java blu-ray menus if you point it at a NAS ISO. On the spec sheet page for the MED600X3d it lists "BD menu-non-java support". It also popped up on a list with the Dune as supporting Blu-Ray menus.


BJBBJB

On iboum.com, when I select the filter for BD-ISO (menu) and BD-ISO (lite) , the 600X3D and the 1000X3D are in the list of units.

Here are the descriptions on their web site:

BD-ISO Full (with menu). Play Blu-Ray ISO rips with full menu as if you were using a Blu-Ray player
BD-ISO Lite (without menu). Play Blu-Ray ISO rips but without original menus (includes BD-ISO full Devices).
post #950 of 1300
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Originally Posted by cadett View Post

I know the PCH A-400 will not play any of the reference disc menu structures. I would think the MED8ER would be similar.

The menus on thos Reference discs work on my 1000X3D. I have them stored on my NAS in the BDMV folder structure. I think the issue with menus not displaying might be the BD-J menus?

Mark
post #951 of 1300
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

The menus on thos Reference discs work on my 1000X3D. I have them stored on my NAS in the BDMV folder structure. I think the issue with menus not displaying might be the BD-J menus?

Mark

Gotcha. Another +1 for MED8ER.
post #952 of 1300
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Originally Posted by Mr Eric View Post

If the reference discs are Simple Profile 1.0 (or home made avchd structures) it might work, but this is completely different menus compared to a real bd movie menu.

Believe me, those menus can't be played on any 3d media player out there. This is the reality from day one. All you can get is bdlite support and if you want full menu support you are limited to a 2d players.

If I remember correctly there's only one player able to do 3d and menus which is a pioneer player but with huge limitations and a homebrew firmware.

I don't fully understand the difference between the various BD menu structures, and whether or not they coincide with the BD profiles. For me, I was primarily interested in the 3D capabilities of a media player, and the Mede8er fit the bill. The fact that it had full BD menu support, which I assumed based upon www.iboum.com, was icing on the cake.

I bought the Mede8er primarily to stream 3D MKV titles to watch on my 3D Panasonic plasma. It is great having easy access to the 3D movies I own. Outside of the 3D Blu-ray movies, the only BD discs I am streaming are the reference discs created by AVS members ScubaSteve, SuperLeo, and Jindrak. The remainder of my streaming movie collection is stored as ripped DVD's (Video TS) for the kids to watch on the Mede8er and the old Netgear NeoTV 550. If we are going to watch a movie in the theater (no 3D-capable projector yet), I put the Blu-ray (owned or rental disc) in the player.

Mark
post #953 of 1300
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

I don't fully understand the difference between the various BD menu structures, and whether or not they coincide with the BD profiles. For me, I was primarily interested in the 3D capabilities of a media player, and the Mede8er fit the bill. The fact that it had full BD menu support, which I assumed based upon www.iboum.com, was icing on the cake.

I bought the Mede8er primarily to stream 3D MKV titles to watch on my 3D Panasonic plasma. It is great having easy access to the 3D movies I own. Outside of the 3D Blu-ray movies, the only BD discs I am streaming are the reference discs created by AVS members ScubaSteve, SuperLeo, and Jindrak. The remainder of my streaming movie collection is stored as ripped DVD's (Video TS) for the kids to watch on the Mede8er and the old Netgear NeoTV 550. If we are going to watch a movie in the theater (no 3D-capable projector yet), I put the Blu-ray (owned or rental disc) in the player.

Mark

The reference discs are not like a normal bd menu. Its a stripped down avs structure menu. Most players should play it. Unless they default to playing the biggest playlist which a lot of the 3d players are doing.
post #954 of 1300
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

On iboum.com, when I select the filter for BD-ISO (menu) and BD-ISO (lite) , the 600X3D and the 1000X3D are in the list of units.

Here are the descriptions on their web site:

BD-ISO Full (with menu). Play Blu-Ray ISO rips with full menu as if you were using a Blu-Ray player
BD-ISO Lite (without menu). Play Blu-Ray ISO rips but without original menus (includes BD-ISO full Devices).
I saw tI was told by mede8er sales that there is no support for Blu-Ray menus on the MED600X3D.

I saw that too, and have seen posts that says it supports menus and compare it to the Dune. However I asked sales for mede8er and they replied that the MED600X3D has no supoprt for Blu-Ray menus, ONLY Blu-Ray Light which they say is similar to a DVD menu is supported. However that same comaprison website says that Blu-Ray light just means it plays a rip without a menu.

I guess bottom line question is if I point an MED 600X3d at a NAS that has either the Blu-ray file structure in folders or a Blu-Ray ISO, does it play any kind of menu at all!
Perhaps an owner can put the question to bed. Rather confusing information...

Thanks,
BJBBJB1
post #955 of 1300
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Originally Posted by BJBBJB View Post

I guess bottom line question is if I point an MED 600X3d at a NAS that has either the Blu-ray file structure in folders or a Blu-Ray ISO, does it play any kind of menu at all!
Perhaps an owner can put the question to bed. Rather confusing information...

Thanks,
BJBBJB1

None of the current 3D players support BD ISO (FULL), but support BD ISO (Lite). If you want a player with full BDISO support, you need to sacrifice 3D Blu-ray capability, and up the ante on cost with a Smart Series Dune player, which will run around $399+, and very difficult to find cheaper.

Yes, the 600X3D will get you a BD Lite menu through the above. BD Lite is a simple menu, versus the original menus you'll get from retail BD.

More about BD Lite, here...
Edited by L33TX43RT - 6/28/13 at 10:22am
post #956 of 1300
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Originally Posted by L33TX43RT View Post

None of the current 3D players support BD ISO (FULL), but support BD ISO (Lite). If you want a player with full BDISO support, you need to sacrifice 3D Blu-ray capability, and up the ante on cost with a Smart Series Dune player, which will run around $399+, and very difficult to find cheaper.

Yes, the 600X3D will get you a BD Lite menu through the above. BD Lite is a simple menu, versus the original menus you'll get from retail BD.

More about BD Lite, here...

Thanks! I should clarify I am concerned about 2D only for Blur-ray. Do any of the 3d or 2d mede8ter pieces support menus on 2D Blu-Ray and DVD?

BJBBJB1
post #957 of 1300
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by BJBBJB View Post

Thanks! I should clarify I am concerned about 2D only for Blur-ray. Do any of the 3d or 2d mede8ter pieces support menus on 2D Blu-Ray and DVD?

BJBBJB1

There is no support for full BD menus (2D or 3D) on any of the mede8ers
post #958 of 1300
Speaking of menu support, how do I set up the files to get DVD menu support?
post #959 of 1300
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Originally Posted by crussader View Post

Speaking of menu support, how do I set up the files to get DVD menu support?

You need to rip the DVD as a DVD Folder structure (can be in an ISO if you would like)
post #960 of 1300
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

There is no support for full BD menus (2D or 3D) on any of the mede8ers

dbone1026,

Thank you SO much for clearing that up! smile.gif Clearly their website and iboum.com are both incorrect.
I don't HAVE to have Blu-Ray menus, although it would be nice to have. Actually at least having menus for the SD DVD's is nice. I don't think there is any dispute there.


BJBBJB1
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