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post #301 of 855
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Originally Posted by MrBuzz View Post

Thanks jdsmoothie for your response. It is the network control that made the standby light orange. All makes sense now. Loving my 7007 and the sound with my B&W 683's is fantastic.

You think it's better to have the marantz on the 683 theatre than a Yamaha rxa2020 or onkyo 818 ?
post #302 of 855
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Originally Posted by metropole View Post

Thanks.

I followed the instructions for the HDMI. I did not achieve the goal yet. Although I have power control disabled, there is some funky stuff going on.
A simple test:
- switch off receiver and observe video out on HDMI
- after switching off the receiver, the HDMI out is going out for a while, making the display hunting for inputs
- a little bit later, the receiver outputs again on the HDMI out (with receiver still off)

The output stays kind off on. However, the brief off period is a problem for my HTPC.

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Originally Posted by metropole View Post

User error. I had the video input select on DVD. Setting it to Default makes it work.

Just need to figure out the HDMI and I am good to go.

What source name is setup as the Standby Source to pass through? Does either audio or video pass through? If video only, you may have to set the source to stereo rather than the multi channel setting used with the surround speakers.
post #303 of 855
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Your post is a bit confusing. confused.gif

Is your Zone 3 in the same room? Do you have another Adcom amp for Zone 3? If you simply want to watch TV sat box video while listening to the CD audio in the same main zone, then you will want to either connect the Sat box (HMDI) directly to the TV with optical to the AVR or in addition to the HDMI to the AVR, connect a component video cable to the AVR from the Sat box and then while the CD source is playing, use the Video Source feature (p. 129 OM).

Thanks for the reply. Yes i want to listen to my cd while have the TV on(picture only) at the same time in the same room. On my zone 2 i have my Adcom amp connected to it to power all my other rooms(ex my main room). So if i understand you instructions, the only way to accomplish this is to change the HDMI from the my STB to the TV instead of the receiver? Then optical from the TV to receiver?
post #304 of 855
Either that or add a component video cable to the AVR as noted.
post #305 of 855
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Either that or add a component video cable to the AVR as noted.

Sorry im still confused. If i run another HDMI from my TV to the AVR(using a input im not using ie "game"), Wont I have to Hit the game button to receive the video cable? Then my music will switch off? Right now I have the TV(HDMI 1ARC ,LG LM9600)) into hooked into the AVR (ARC out) I have my STB hooked into the AVR into the "SAT" input via HDMI. Is this not correct ? BTW sorry I have the Marantz sr7500 not the 7007. Thanks again
post #306 of 855
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post


What source name is setup as the Standby Source to pass through? Does either audio or video pass through? If video only, you may have to set the source to stereo rather than the multi channel setting used with the surround speakers.

Here are my HDMI setup settings:
My standby source is "DVD". I am using DVD as the input for my HTPC.
My video out and control monitor are both "Monitor1. My projector is connected to Monitor1 (HDMI 2).
power control is off.

I boiled it down to a simple test:
- power off just the receiver (projector stays on - HTPC is never switched off anyhow) -> the display goes blank for a couple of seconds. However, it recovers and everything is fine. My HTPC is not messed up.
- power on the receiver (projector is still on) -> similar to above: some blanking. However, the display gets messed up. With other words, the HTPC thinks that the HDMI display is gone.

The HTPC sound card is by default configured to output stereo to the HDMI. i.e. playing music with mediaplayer. For blueray playback, the player will pass through whatever the disc has to offer.
I have noticed that when the the receiver is off that the HTPC mutes the audio (shows mute icon). I guess that makes somewhat sense.

Not sure where to go from here.
post #307 of 855
Can someone please tell me how to program my Marantz remote for my sr7007 to work with my samsung TV? TV model is PN60E7000.

Also, am I correct in thinking that audyssey can only be used in a 7.1 system? Not the audyssey calibration but the audyssey sound mode.

Thanks.

Steve
Edited by uglysteve - 2/2/13 at 12:54pm
post #308 of 855
Have you tried all 21 codes listed on p. 183 of the Owner's manual? Also, Audyssey will work on as small as a 2.0 setup up to 7.2.
Edited by jdsmoothie - 2/3/13 at 7:21am
post #309 of 855
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Originally Posted by playa21 View Post

You think it's better to have the marantz on the 683 theatre than a Yamaha rxa2020 or onkyo 818 ?

my brother is currenty running the 683's with rxa2020 , sounds awesome. i'm still debating my self to sell sr7007 to get the rxa2020
post #310 of 855
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Originally Posted by gelly View Post

Sorry im still confused. If i run another HDMI from my TV to the AVR(using a input im not using ie "game"), Wont I have to Hit the game button to receive the video cable? Then my music will switch off? Right now I have the TV(HDMI 1ARC ,LG LM9600)) into hooked into the AVR (ARC out) I have my STB hooked into the AVR into the "SAT" input via HDMI. Is this not correct ? BTW sorry I have the Marantz sr7500 not the 7007. Thanks again

Option #1
Cable box (HDMI) ---> TV
Cable box (optical) ---> 7007

Option #2
Cable box (HDMI) ---> 7007 (Source label #1, eg. CBL/SAT)
Cable box (component video) ----> 7007 (Source label #2, eg. GAME)
post #311 of 855
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Originally Posted by metropole View Post

Here are my HDMI setup settings:
My standby source is "DVD". I am using DVD as the input for my HTPC.
My video out and control monitor are both "Monitor1. My projector is connected to Monitor1 (HDMI 2).
power control is off.

I boiled it down to a simple test:
- power off just the receiver (projector stays on - HTPC is never switched off anyhow) -> the display goes blank for a couple of seconds. However, it recovers and everything is fine. My HTPC is not messed up.
- power on the receiver (projector is still on) -> similar to above: some blanking. However, the display gets messed up. With other words, the HTPC thinks that the HDMI display is gone.

The HTPC sound card is by default configured to output stereo to the HDMI. i.e. playing music with mediaplayer. For blueray playback, the player will pass through whatever the disc has to offer.
I have noticed that when the the receiver is off that the HTPC mutes the audio (shows mute icon). I guess that makes somewhat sense.

Not sure where to go from here.

To mitigate HDMI handshake issues, prior to turning the AVR back on, you may want to try powering off all devices and the powering them back on in the following order ...> PJ, wait a few seconds, AVR, wait a few seconds, and then source device.
post #312 of 855
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Have you tried all 21 codes listed on p. 177 of the Owner's manual? Also, Audyssey will work on as small as a 2.0 setup up to 7.2.

Thank you so much. I have been reading the manual but didn't get that far yet. It's soo long. I even printed it all out so I could annotate it.

Edit:
For anyone else, who, like me, printed out the manual...the remote codes are listed on page 185 and instructions for printing them are listed on page 147.
Edited by uglysteve - 2/2/13 at 9:41pm
post #313 of 855
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Option #1
Cable box (HDMI) ---> TV
Cable box (optical) ---> 7007

Option #2
Cable box (HDMI) ---> 7007 (Source label #1, eg. CBL/SAT)
Cable box (component video) ----> 7007 (Source label #2, eg. GAME)

Thanks again,JDS
post #314 of 855
New member here, and I just got my SR7007 yesterday. To say that I am impressed would be a serious understatement. Setup was a breeze. I did the firmware update as soon as I attached the network cable.

My system is rather unconventional I suppose, as I am using restored vintage Large Advents at the corners and a Polk center, and Polk powered subwoofer. Sounds fantastic to me. I watched The Dark Knight Rises last night and it was quite an experience. Watching Dream Theater Live at Budokan was also very impressive. So was Cream at Royal Albert Hall. The sound is so clear, and the video is very "realistic" looking.

I also tested out Pandora, after entering my membership info. Great sound for that quality of "recordings". AirPlay works flawlessly, and it sure is nice not to have to "plug in" my iPod Touch. The HD radio sounds pretty nice too, although I didn't play with it that much. I plugged my Kindle Fire HD into the front HDMI port and the picture and sound is fantastic.

Music CD's such as Frank Zappa's Best Band You Never Heard in Your Life, was superb. One of my favorite live CD's.

I also bought an Oppo BDP-103 to upgrade from my old DVD player. It too, is fantastic.

Anyway, just thought I'd say hello, and give my first impressions. Its my first foray into real home theater, as I was previously using my old Sansui 9090DB for stereo playback, and my old DVD player, which was probably ten years old. So I'm like a kid in a candy store right now.
post #315 of 855
Hi there,

I already have the Marantz SR7007 powering my B&W CM8/CM1/CMC/ASW610 and it sounds great.
Now, I have an opportunity to choose an aditional equipment (as a gift) to ad up to the system, and I am torn in between:
1. Marantz UD7007 - replacing my PS3
or
2. PA7004 or PM KI Pearl Lite to power the fronts

1. I am hearing great reviews on UD7007 as a player but I am missing an info if it can play video files via USB as PS3 does.I really avoid burning DVDs.
All of my CD collections are digitally stored and CDs given away. Only remaining discs are BDs.

2. people are suggesting that SR7007 would find it difficult to power the CM8s and that an external amp would do them justice.
I imagine the two I have listed would fall within the category. Just to be clear I am highly satisfied with the current sound so just the though that it can get even better gets my guts.

The set up is in my living room so I am not really aiming for higher volumes. It would rather be clearer sound especially in lower volumes - music wise.
I play my music Flac files via usb in the SR7007 and my movies via PS3 BD player and USB.

I would like to hear your opinion on where would I find a greater benefit with my existing set up.

Cheers
MG
post #316 of 855
1. Why replace the PS3? SACD?

2. Considering the CM8's are not 4-ohm speakers, at the moderate volume levels you listen at, the SR7007 should provide plenty of power.
post #317 of 855
Hi JD,

Replace PS3 - if UD7007 gives a better PQ. Not really aiming for any SACD collection. I have a Samsung 46" ES8000 so I was not expecting a visible difference in BD picture quality in that size of a screen. I was hoping that UD7007 plays video files through it's USB port which would definately showcase improvements vs PS3 but apparently from the info i got it doesn't seem to do so.
All in all, I understand your question mark, especially with PS4 in sight (maybe June 2013) whereas I am quite positive that the versatility of this player would be further enhanced covering the next 3-4 years of tech development

Regarding Audio quality, as I have all of my music stored in an external drive I would be playing it the same way in UD7007 as I am currently doing in the SR7007 - via USB port.
A question though, I still have one thing unclear regarding the audio quality I am getting at the moment,
- that is if the DACs within SR7007 are active when playing music via USB port. I hope you have the info.

As for the CM8's, I have them set by Audissey at a level of -3.5 dB while my CM1's/CMC are at 0 dB
I have a habit of listening to music in MCH stereo at Volumes of -30 to -20 dB, so when I move to Direct and Pure Direct I have to raise the volume for at least 10 dB. The bass is there, the midrange and imaging perfect - it is just the volume that is lacking at this mode switch.
This made me think that maybe those forumers are right and that an external amp would help, but it could very well be that I have to raise the levels of my Fronts/CM8's.

Cheers
MG
post #318 of 855
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Originally Posted by mgida View Post

Hi JD,

Replace PS3 - if UD7007 gives a better PQ. Not really aiming for any SACD collection. I have a Samsung 46" ES8000 so I was not expecting a visible difference in BD picture quality in that size of a screen. I was hoping that UD7007 plays video files through it's USB port which would definately showcase improvements vs PS3 but apparently from the info i got it doesn't seem to do so.
All in all, I understand your question mark, especially with PS4 in sight (maybe June 2013) whereas I am quite positive that the versatility of this player would be further enhanced covering the next 3-4 years of tech development

Regarding Audio quality, as I have all of my music stored in an external drive I would be playing it the same way in UD7007 as I am currently doing in the SR7007 - via USB port.
A question though, I still have one thing unclear regarding the audio quality I am getting at the moment,
- that is if the DACs within SR7007 are active when playing music via USB port. I hope you have the info.

As for the CM8's, I have them set by Audissey at a level of -3.5 dB while my CM1's/CMC are at 0 dB
I have a habit of listening to music in MCH stereo at Volumes of -30 to -20 dB, so when I move to Direct and Pure Direct I have to raise the volume for at least 10 dB. The bass is there, the midrange and imaging perfect - it is just the volume that is lacking at this mode switch.
This made me think that maybe those forumers are right and that an external amp would help, but it could very well be that I have to raise the levels of my Fronts/CM8's.

Cheers
MG

Regarding the dip in volume, it's important to remember that doubling the number of speakers in a room produces a 3db gain so if you went from 2-channel to 7 channel playback you would see a substantial gain in output db. The opposite is also true if you start taking speakers out of the equation - it's to be expected that going from 7 to 2 channel will result in lower volume at the same volume setting.

It's also important to remember that your 7007 has been tested to output over 120wpc with 2-channels driven at 0.1% distortion versus 70wpc with 7-channels driven so if you're okay with its 7-channel capability your unlikely to have issue with its two channel capability at the relatively moderate volume levels you describe. My advice based on your scenario would be to save your money for something else.

Also, as far as blu-ray players go, I also recently replaced my PS3 (mostly because I wanted a player that remained dead silent throughout a movie). Personally I went with an Oppo BDP-103, I think Oppo offers the best performance/dollar ratio and if you really want top notch audio performance over USB there is always the Oppo BDP-105 with its USB DAC. Having said that, if you don't find the PS3 fan noise bothersome your unlikely to notice a difference in BD playback so in this regard I would also suggest you may be better off putting your money toward other gear.
post #319 of 855
You say 70 wpc, but......What does THIS mean?

"Seven discrete component 125 watt amplifiers with HDAM circuitry and current feedback topology"

Does each amp put out 125 watts? According to this, it looks so.

Rated output:

Front:
125 W + 125 W (8 ohm, 20 Hz – 20 kHz with 0.08 % T.H.D.)
195 W + 195 W (6 ohm, 1 kHz with 10 % T.H.D.)
Center:
125 W (8 ohm, 20 Hz – 20 kHz with 0.08 % T.H.D.)
195 W (6 ohm, 1 kHz with 10 % T.H.D.)
Surround:
125 W + 125 W (8 ohm, 20 Hz – 20 kHz with 0.08 % T.H.D.)
195 W + 195 W (6 ohm, 1 kHz with 10 % T.H.D.)
Surround back:
125 W + 125 W (8 ohm, 20 Hz – 20 kHz with 0.08 % T.H.D.)
195 W + 195 W (6 ohm, 1 kHz with 10 % T.H.D.)
Edited by zombie1210 - 2/5/13 at 2:33pm
post #320 of 855
Hi EVT,

Well I supposed that this was the case as far as 2ch vs 5.1ch (in my case) is. I forgot to mention that I have also biamped the fronts with the remaining two channel amps. I might be wrong but I tend to notice a fuller sound in higher volumes.
As for the player, you're implying that sr7007 does not involve its DACs when playing through its USB port?? In that case, would burning a CD with flac files and playing it via ud7007 or in your case oppo 103 employ the existing DACs and have a much better performance than the one through the USB?

Yes the ps3 noise is noticeable, I have looked at the oppo 103 and I would rather have the ud7007 for compatibility issues if I was to take that jump.
Nevertheless it looks like I might rather direct myself towards a good 3d projector, an Optoma hd33 perhaps and wait for the PS4 for player upgrade. I just have the feeling that its going to be extra special and a must for A/V set ups.

I was to receive one of these as a gift but in no way if they would be unnecessary.

Thanks for the reply
Cheers
MG
post #321 of 855
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Originally Posted by zombie1210 View Post

You say 70 wpc, but......What does THIS mean?

"Seven discrete component 125 watt amplifiers with HDAM circuitry and current feedback topology"

Does each amp put out 125 watts? According to this, it looks so.

Rated output:

Front:
125 W + 125 W (8 ohm, 20 Hz – 20 kHz with 0.08 % T.H.D.)
195 W + 195 W (6 ohm, 1 kHz with 10 % T.H.D.)
Center:
125 W (8 ohm, 20 Hz – 20 kHz with 0.08 % T.H.D.)
195 W (6 ohm, 1 kHz with 10 % T.H.D.)
Surround:
125 W + 125 W (8 ohm, 20 Hz – 20 kHz with 0.08 % T.H.D.)
195 W + 195 W (6 ohm, 1 kHz with 10 % T.H.D.)
Surround back:
125 W + 125 W (8 ohm, 20 Hz – 20 kHz with 0.08 % T.H.D.)
195 W + 195 W (6 ohm, 1 kHz with 10 % T.H.D.)

Hometheater mag measured the 5 channel output to be around 90 wpc with 0.1% distortion and the 7 channel output around 70 wpc with 0.1% distortion. Yes 125 wpc is for two channel continuos drive with 0.1% distortion.
post #322 of 855
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Originally Posted by mgida View Post

As for the player, you're implying that sr7007 does not involve its DACs when playing through its USB port?? In that case, would burning a CD with flac files and playing it via ud7007 or in your case oppo 103 employ the existing DACs and have a much better performance than the one through the USB?

I think somebody is confused.

DACs are Digital to Analog Converters. They're needed whenever you have a digital signal (HDMI, S/PDIF, USB, DLNA, output of internal DSP, etc) and you want to provide an analog signal to drive amplifiers (internal or external).

ADCs (Analog to Digital Converters) are used to convert analog signals to digital so they can be processed (e.g. by ProLogic or Audyssey). ADCs are used on all of the receiver's stereo analog inputs.

If you don't want there to be any possibility of involving any of the receiver's DACs or ADCs, you have to connect your analog source signals to the receiver's 7.1 multi-channel analog inputs. Supposedly selecting Direct or Pure Direct will cause the analog stereo inputs not to be digitized, but I'm not sure that's true. When Direct or Pure Direct is selected for a digital input signal, they just tell the receiver's DSP not to modify the digital audio.
post #323 of 855
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Originally Posted by mgida View Post

Hometheater mag measured the 5 channel output to be around 90 wpc with 0.1% distortion and the 7 channel output around 70 wpc with 0.1% distortion. Yes 125 wpc is for two channel continuos drive with 0.1% distortion.

So are they allowed to state 125 watts per channel, when its only two channels at a time, regardless of which two?

I realize that not many people would need 125 wpc to their rear speakers anyway.
Edited by zombie1210 - 2/5/13 at 4:37pm
post #324 of 855
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Originally Posted by zombie1210 View Post

So are they allowed to state 125 watts per channel, when its only two channels at a time, regardless of which two?

I realize that not many people would need 125 wpc to their rear speakers anyway.

Almost every AVR's power specs are quoted with 2 channels driven. Denon/Marantz confuse some people when they say that their amps are equal power - they are but they don't all get full power at the same time. Nevertheless, don't get too worked up about this, it takes twice the power to increase volume by 3db so your looking at a less than 3 db difference with all 7 channels driven at 70wpc. Incidentally, going from 2 to 5 channels would more than make up for this dip as doubling the number of speakers increases output by 3db so don't spend much time worrying about it.
post #325 of 855
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Originally Posted by mgida View Post

Hi EVT,

Well I supposed that this was the case as far as 2ch vs 5.1ch (in my case) is. I forgot to mention that I have also biamped the fronts with the remaining two channel amps. I might be wrong but I tend to notice a fuller sound in higher volumes.
As for the player, you're implying that sr7007 does not involve its DACs when playing through its USB port?? In that case, would burning a CD with flac files and playing it via ud7007 or in your case oppo 103 employ the existing DACs and have a much better performance than the one through the USB?

Yes the ps3 noise is noticeable, I have looked at the oppo 103 and I would rather have the ud7007 for compatibility issues if I was to take that jump.
Nevertheless it looks like I might rather direct myself towards a good 3d projector, an Optoma hd33 perhaps and wait for the PS4 for player upgrade. I just have the feeling that its going to be extra special and a must for A/V set ups.

I was to receive one of these as a gift but in no way if they would be unnecessary.

Thanks for the reply
Cheers
MG

No, I didn't intend to imply the the 7007's DAC was bypassed when playing through the USB port, however I brought up the Oppo as in the case of the Oppo BDP-105 it has asynchronous USB DAC input which is supposed to improve SQ. No AVR outside of the Pioneer Elite SC-68 has this feature and I'm not sure which players outside of the Oppo have it either. Personally, I think it's a good move to wait and see what the PS4 has in store. Having said that, I doubt it will be quiet - the first version of game systems tend to be rather loud, I have a PS3 slim but I used to have the original PS3 that I got shortly after launch - while the slim is audible during quiet parts in movies the original PS3 sounded like a jet engine.
post #326 of 855
Some observations on my viewing and listening, after a few days of owning it.

Music sounds fantastic. Vinyl, CD's, DVD's, BRD's, and even my iPod sounds pretty darned good. Pandora sounds really good too. Much better that I've heard it sound on any piece of equipment.

I had been using a vintage restored Sansui 9090DB with two pairs of Large Advents, stacked. Now I just have one pair in my HT setup, a Polk center, and Polk sub. I haven't gotten around to adding rears yet.

I relegated the 9090BD and one pair of Advents to the bedroom, and do most of my "power listening" on the SR7007.

I am very surprised to find that I prefer the 7007. I like vintage audio, but the 7007 is just so quiet when it should be, and very dynamic. Bass is very "tight". The stereo separation is phenominal IMO, and that makes my music really sound more alive.

I picked up the 15 disc Lord of the Rings boxed set, and the quality of video and audio is pretty incredible. Again, in my non expert opinion. The battle scenes sound very realistic, and the low frequencies feel like an earthquake, while not boomy, or overkill.

Network features have all worked great. I especially like the Internet Radio, and the quality that some of the channels have.

My Kindle Fire HD works great plugged into the front HDMI port.

I have had no issues so far. And coupled with my Oppo BDP-103, I'm am now in movie heaven.

Count me as a happy customer.
post #327 of 855
Got my SR7007 hooked up to a set of Aperion Versus Grand 7.1 speakers and love it all. I have a Sony Blue-Ray BDP-S590 and regardless of what audio output settings I choose I always get PCM on the SR7007. For example there is a setting for Dolby Digital / DTS which can be Downmix PCM or Bitstream. I set it to Bitstream and still see PCM on the 7007. Does anyone have any idea what is going on?

Regards,
---Wayne.
post #328 of 855
Make sure the BDP-S590 has the "BD Audio Mix" setting to OFF.
post #329 of 855
That was it, thanks JDS. Now that I have both PCM and bitstream working I did a sound test using a blue-ray and don't think I can tell the difference. Any advice on what the optimal settings are? Some people say PCM others say Bitstream. Love this SR7007 and these speakers. Best sound I have ever heard.

Regards,
---Wayne.
post #330 of 855
It's the exact same audio track you're listening to either way so there is no difference in audio quality, rather only that one might be a few db louder than the other, that's all.
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